Daytime Running lights?

[corncobs]

I can confirm that it is a configurable option on the 2015 and it is very easy to turn them on and off.

That sounds you received your new ride already!?

[milleron]

My dealer took a different approach. The Hotline told him not to do it, so he said no.

 

I took care of it myself.

I got really tired of remembering to turn the parking lights on every time I drove the car.

I installed a relay so that when the car is off the front parking lights work normally.

When the car is on the front parking lights are always on, that's the little W5W bulbs and the side marker LEDs.

That's a reasonable work-around for an unreasonable problem -- i.e., it's UNreasonable that my dealer won't simply turn them on -- but it's certainly not a DIY option for me. Are you able to supply any hints about how to accomplish that installation?

[Texasota]

That sounds you received your new ride already!?

Yup, brought it home on Monday (08/18/2014). I have a grand total of 45 miles on it. I am hopeful that this will be a good ownership experience.

Edited August 20, 2014 by Texasota

[hybridbear]

Yup, brought it home on Monday (08/18/2015). I have a grand total of 45 miles on it. I am hopeful that this will be a good ownership experience.

Congrats! Hopefully you'll post some pics soon :) including of the dash since there were some questions about what the dash looks like on the FFH S.

Edited August 20, 2014 by hybridbear

[acdii]

Wow time warping too!

[Easy Rider]

., it's UNreasonable that my dealer won't simply turn them on --

Unreasonable and unwise and pathetic.

Is there another dealer close by ??

(Having said that, I wonder what mine will say when asked later?)

 

We have a "liaison" with Ford who hangs out on here just looking for things like that.

I bet she could help if you can contact her.

[murphy]

Her predecessor (Ashley) already stated that it's against Ford policy and there is nothing she can do.

[Easy Rider]

Her predecessor (Ashley) already stated that it's against Ford policy and there is nothing she can do.

Not a very well known policy apparently since some do it for "free", some try to charge and some won't do it at all.

 

The change in Federal rules in the US about 2 years ago said that DRLs are no longer REQUIRED.

They did NOT say that they are not allowed anymore.

 

Sounds to me like somebody at Ford is being stupid.......again.

[corncobs]

Yup, brought it home on Monday (08/18/2015). I have a grand total of 45 miles on it. I am hopeful that this will be a good ownership experience.

Very cool congrats on your new baby. Hopefully many happy and fuel efficient trips between TX and MN. :)

[Texasota]

Wow time warping too!

Ooops. Guess I had 2015 on my mind.

[billford]

>I would say that IS a problem.
>90 seconds to find scan tool.
>60 seconds to plug it in and turn it on.
>60 seconds to change the one parameter.
>90 seconds to put the tool away again.
>Let's see........total 5 minutes.
>At $62 for every 5 minutes, that puts the shop labor rate at about $744 per hour.
>I'd say that's pretty outrageous.
>If you assume that they had to connect the tool anyway to look for "hidden" codes, it becomes even more ridiculous.
>THAT dealer, or at least their service department knows NOTHING about good customer service and building lasting relationships



In response to Easy Riders post:

 

I think it would take more than 5 minutes.

If you are already there for other work and the car is already in the shop, then 5 to 10 minutes is realistic. If you just go there for the programming, it takes more time.

The service advisor has to write it up, tag it, park it. Then the tech gets the repair order, walks out to get the car, drives it in, does the work, documents the repair order, parks it. A wash and vacuum may be part of the time.

The op didn't say what the labor rate was at that dealer, but for $62, it's probably about 30 minutes of time, which is not unreasonable for quality personnel.

Edited August 21, 2014 by billford

[Waldo]

Not a very well known policy apparently since some do it for "free", some try to charge and some won't do it at all.

 

The change in Federal rules in the US about 2 years ago said that DRLs are no longer REQUIRED.

They did NOT say that they are not allowed anymore.

 

Sounds to me like somebody at Ford is being stupid.......again.

 

More likely the lawyers are just trying to be safe. DRLs have a lot of legal connotations, some versions are legal in some places but not in others. For example the LED DRLs on the current Titanium Escape are standard in the US and Canada, but they do not meet the light output requirements for the DRL laws in Canada, so Escape's in Canada have both the LED and the fog lamps come on as DRLs.

 

Because the design of the modules allows different sorts of DRLs to be activated (fog lamps, park lamps, headlamps etc), Ford can never be sure that a dealer will activate them correctly so that they meet any legal requirements that might apply to where the vehicle is being used. Thus they have to officially recommend that dealer's do not activate them.

 

Now with the 2015s, Ford can be sure at the factory that each vehicle is setup so that the DRLs meet the requirements of where they will be sold.

 

It's not Ford being stupid, it's too many stupid lawsuits over time.

[Easy Rider]

 

It's not Ford being stupid, it's too many stupid lawsuits over time.

It could well be some version of that.

 

But currently in the US there ARE NO requirements at all.

It's rather hard for me to imagine how any version of a DRL could violate a rule of "none required". ;)

[Easy Rider]

If you just go there for the programming, it takes more time.

 

Sure, maybe.

I think the OP had his in for something else.

That's how I intend to do it too.

(edit: The guy that paid $62 didn't really say.)

 

Regardless of any of that, any opportunity to make a good impression on a customer at a minuscule cost is an opportunity that should be capitalized upon.

Edited August 21, 2014 by Easy Rider

[acdii]

 

More likely the lawyers are just trying to be safe. DRLs have a lot of legal connotations, some versions are legal in some places but not in others. For example the LED DRLs on the current Titanium Escape are standard in the US and Canada, but they do not meet the light output requirements for the DRL laws in Canada, so Escape's in Canada have both the LED and the fog lamps come on as DRLs.

 

Because the design of the modules allows different sorts of DRLs to be activated (fog lamps, park lamps, headlamps etc), Ford can never be sure that a dealer will activate them correctly so that they meet any legal requirements that might apply to where the vehicle is being used. Thus they have to officially recommend that dealer's do not activate them.

 

Now with the 2015s, Ford can be sure at the factory that each vehicle is setup so that the DRLs meet the requirements of where they will be sold.

 

It's not Ford being stupid, it's too many stupid lawsuits over time.

Good points.

 

As for having DRL and forgetting to turn on the regular lights, happened to me last night. I had the car in for service a couple weeks ago, and have not driven at night since, until last night. I noticed no highbeams and got concerned something broke when they did the update. Then I noticed the lights looked a bit dim, and thought ohoh something is wrong. Then looking at the dash, realized that my lights were off. DOH They tech turned the auto lamps off. All is fine now.

[djminfll]

I brought mine in for something else last week, and asked them to activate the DRLs. At first, they tried to tell me it couldn't be done, but I was ready for that line, and had this forum page pulled up on my iPhone! I showed it to the service tech, who called the service manager over. He then told me that they "usually charge" to do this, but they would do me a "favor". Oh well, as long as they're on!

[Ram]

Sure, maybe.

I think the OP had his in for something else.

That's how I intend to do it too.

(edit: The guy that paid $62 didn't really say.)

 

Regardless of any of that, any opportunity to make a good impression on a customer at a minuscule cost is an opportunity that should be capitalized upon.

The guy that just paid 62$ for them to be turned on when other items being checked out, thinks the hourly rate for this dealer is $118.00 per hour.

However this is just what I had to pay. i explained to them its far less than a 10 minute job. They said this is the minimum price for turning on the day time running lights.

[Easy Rider]

They said this is the minimum price for turning on the day time running lights.

 

At THEIR shop it is.

 

Like many shops, that means that they don't understand how to cultivate good customer relationships that keep people coming back........for service or their next car either.

[hermans]

The Ford dealer shop rate where I go is $72.00/hr. At GrySql's it's about 120/hr, but then he gets breakfast and lunch, drinks and massage. Heck, I would go there for all my meals.

[GrySql]

The Ford dealer shop rate where I go is $72.00/hr. At GrySql's it's about 120/hr, but then he gets breakfast and lunch, drinks and massage. Heck, I would go there for all my meals.

The massage parlor is always overbooked.

[acdii]

Long way to go for an oil change though, unless the one doing the massage is REALLY good looking female type.

[GrySql]

My oil changes are at my friends auto repair shop locally.

 

The massages are only for GrySql's.

Edited August 26, 2014 by GrySql

[m8knuthink]

Will this work on the 2014 Ford Fusion Hybrid Titanium?

[GrySql]

Will this work on the 2014 Ford Fusion Hybrid Titanium?

 

Welcome to the Forum!

 

If your Dealer's Service Department will do it, yes.

http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/5650-daytime-running-lights/?p=85161

[m8knuthink]

Thanks for the heads up! I'm also considering on purchasing some from this company in Michigan that has a set that look like this

 

Anyone try these out on their car?