2013 Hybrid MPG Results

[NikeUnlimited]

Just drove to work (about 45 miles) at 72 mph on cruise control and got 42.3 mpg. :)

[fusionTX]

Just drove to work (about 45 miles) at 72 mph on cruise control and got 42.3 mpg. :)

Now that i really like!!!

[acdii]

Aw man those are good number, from all of youse guys. :) Hybridbear, those were the numbers I was expecting to see when I drove to Florida, so you can understand my frustration. Thanks for sharing

[ace8726872]

Just drove to work (about 45 miles) at 72 mph on cruise control and got 42.3 mpg. :)

 

That is a great number. Just curious, where in LA are you commuting to/from? My commute is on 118 freeway going against the traffic.

[NikeUnlimited]

I live in San Fernando Valley and commute to Long Beach. So mornings aren't too bad... still takes around 40-50 minutes. I take 170 to 101 to 5 to 605 :/ lol. But it's kind of down hill on the way to work which is why I can go a little faster I guess. Way back I've been getting 40mpg in bumper to bumper traffic.

Edited March 2, 2013 by NikeUnlimited

[ace8726872]

I live in San Fernando Valley and commute to Long Beach. So mornings aren't too bad... still takes around 40-50 minutes. I take 170 to 101 to 5 to 605 :/ lol. But it's kind of down hill on the way to work which is why I can go a little faster I guess. Way back I've been getting 40mpg in bumper to bumper traffic.

 

Wow, that is a long commute! I live in the SFV as well, commuting to Thousand Oaks. I get similar MPG as well. 46~48 MPG if I take the freeway all the way. If I take a different route and do 50/50 city and freeway, I get 50+ MPG. Return trips are 40 MPG and 42 MPG respectively. Hoping to see an increase in MPG as it gets a bit warmer.

 

Welcome to the forum by the way!

[hybridbear]

Aw man those are good number, from all of youse guys. :) Hybridbear, those were the numbers I was expecting to see when I drove to Florida, so you can understand my frustration. Thanks for sharing

 

It's sad that your car is defective.

 

I think part of the issue here is that the difference between 47 & 39 feels like a huge drop. But in reality that is a much smaller drop than if you went from 28 to 20 MPG. Another factor is that we all expect really high mileage because the car is a hybrid, so when it falls even a few MPGs short we are all disappointed.

 

How many of you would complain this loudly if you bought a truck that said 20 MPG combined EPA but only got 18 MPG? You most likely wouldn't complain at all. But that percentage difference is the same as what most of us who don't have defective cars are seeing. Our average of 42 MPG compared to 47 is about the same percentage difference as 18 versus 20. It just feels more significant because the numbers are so much higher

[acdii]

It's sad that your car is defective.

 

I think part of the issue here is that the difference between 47 & 39 feels like a huge drop. But in reality that is a much smaller drop than if you went from 28 to 20 MPG. Another factor is that we all expect really high mileage because the car is a hybrid, so when it falls even a few MPGs short we are all disappointed.

 

How many of you would complain this loudly if you bought a truck that said 20 MPG combined EPA but only got 18 MPG? You most likely wouldn't complain at all. But that percentage difference is the same as what most of us who don't have defective cars are seeing. Our average of 42 MPG compared to 47 is about the same percentage difference as 18 versus 20. It just feels more significant because the numbers are so much higher

 

 

Umm (hand raised) :) When I got my F150 Ecoboost, the gas mileage was far below what Ford claimed, and after they checked it out, they said run premium in it if you want to get better gas mileage. They were right however as I did get 18 when I did that, and on the interstate it did get EPA as they claimed. The percentage is about right once I compared gearing weight and everything. I found its sweet spot was 1700 RPM or less which worked out to be about 67 MPH max, and that netted me 21-24 MPG on the interstate.

[tombarker13ffh]

Drove on cruise 55 mph today from a cold start. 10 miles. Only got 36mpg. Turns out i was driving into a 12mph headwind, but at 55 it seemed to not want to go into ev at all. Temp was around 32 degrees. I also just discovered how to turn on the ecocruise, so I havent tried it yet.

Edited March 3, 2013 by tombarker13ffh

[fusionTX]

Drove on cruise 55 mph today from a cold start. 10 miles. Only got 36mpg. Turns out i was driving into a 12mph headwind, but at 55 it seemed to not want to go into ev at all. Temp was around 32 degrees. I also just discovered how to turn on the ecocruise, so I havent tried it yet.

Thanks for testing. That's a big difference from 40. Maybe the head wind had something to do with it.

[tombarker13ffh]

Trip home tonight. 22 degrees cold start. Cruise set at 38-40. Tank average was at 42.5 and climbing, but the short trip didnt get much use out of the warmed up motor.

[lolder]

Drove on cruise 55 mph today from a cold start. 10 miles. Only got 36mpg. Turns out i was driving into a 12mph headwind, but at 55 it seemed to not want to go into ev at all. Temp was around 32 degrees. I also just discovered how to turn on the ecocruise, so I havent tried it yet.

Vehicle speed lowers mpg. 0.6 mpg per 1.0 mph speed increase and since aerodynamic drag is about half the resistance, wind alone should account for about a 0.3 mpg loss per 1.0 mph headwind. That wind cost you about 4 mpg. Tailwinds work the opposite. It's not linear but it's a good approximation that my observations confirm. I was on an interstate with my 2010 FFH some time ago and the bar graphs started to decline over a half hour from about 40 mpg to about 35 for no apparent reason other than a brief misty rain with little temperature change. When we got out of the car, we realized the wind had picked to about 20 mph on the nose. We had driven through a weather front and the car has so little air noise and handles so well at speed I didn't recognize the headwind buildup.

[tombarker13ffh]

Yeah the noise factor in the new one is awesome too. Probably not much to do about drag, but i think ill try to stay under 55 for the most part. Did the same trip today, 32 degrees cold start, 48-50mph, 43.5 mpg.

Edited March 3, 2013 by tombarker13ffh

[GrySql]

those were the numbers I was expecting to see when I drove to Florida, so you can understand my frustration.

You've mentioned this Fla trip often enough but I can't recall if you mentioned the number of people in the car, luggage and total load the car was carrying.

Maybe the computer 'learned' your driving habits from that trip and is haunting you.

I'd try everything I could think of including a system 'Hard Reset', disconnect the car battery overnight, boil the thermostat, tear up sheets and throw the cat out.

[elle]

throw the cat out.

 

Don't blame the cat!

[acdii]

You've mentioned this Fla trip often enough but I can't recall if you mentioned the number of people in the car, luggage and total load the car was carrying.

Maybe the computer 'learned' your driving habits from that trip and is haunting you.

I'd try everything I could think of including a system 'Hard Reset', disconnect the car battery overnight, boil the thermostat, tear up sheets and throw the cat out.

It was just me and my mom, with two light suitcases. I kept it at 65 and under for most of the trip, also did the hard resets and everything. Left the cat home too. I started the trip with over 1000 miles on the car, and when I got back it had about 3600.

[hybridbear]

Vehicle speed lowers mpg. 0.6 mpg per 1.0 mph speed increase and since aerodynamic drag is about half the resistance, wind alone should account for about a 0.3 mpg loss per 1.0 mph headwind. That wind cost you about 4 mpg. Tailwinds work the opposite. It's not linear but it's a good approximation that my observations confirm. I was on an interstate with my 2010 FFH some time ago and the bar graphs started to decline over a half hour from about 40 mpg to about 35 for no apparent reason other than a brief misty rain with little temperature change. When we got out of the car, we realized the wind had picked to about 20 mph on the nose. We had driven through a weather front and the car has so little air noise and handles so well at speed I didn't recognize the headwind buildup.

 

Excellent information. I know that I have observed losses from wind. On our road trip to California I was expecting better than 44 MPG overall, but we ended up driving into the wind at every turn. Driving south from MN to Kansas City we were driving into a south wind, then all the way across Kansas, OK, TX and into NM we were driving into west winds. Coming home it was the opposite, we were driving into wind out of the east and then out of the north right around the time we turned north. Some of the days we were driving 600-700 miles in a day into 20 MPH winds. That definitely cost us a few MPGs. Our first day, driving south into 15-20 MPH winds we only got 39 MPG in the cold temps. Driving across Kansas it was even worse because the temps were only around 20 degrees and we were driving into WNW winds of 20-30 MPH.

 

I noticed in our Accord Hybrid we had previously that rain would really drop that car's MPGs too. On one trip to Rochester we went from getting around 38 MPG cruising on the highway when cloudy and then only about 33 MPG once the rain started.

[tombarker13ffh]

Drove against a 30-40mph-gust snow storm from a cold start on my way to work yesterday, got 32mpg, worst Ive ever seen. Got this on the way back...

[ace8726872]

So I went to breakfast with wifey this morning in my FFH. When we got there, I expected the MPG to be in the high 40's but I only saw 43 so I wondered out loud to my demise "I guess the extra pounds really affects the MPG". I felt a burning sensation from the passenger side and saw my wife's "THE LOOK" that I haven't seen in years! I might have to sleep in my car tonight.

[ptjones]

Drove against a 30-40mph-gust snow storm from a cold start on my way to work yesterday, got 32mpg, worst Ive ever seen. Got this on the way back...

Average looks good.

 

So I went to breakfast with wifey this morning in my FFH. When we got there, I expected the MPG to be in the high 40's but I only saw 43 so I wondered out loud to my demise "I guess the extra pounds really affects the MPG". I felt a burning sensation from the passenger side and saw my wife's "THE LOOK" that I haven't seen in years! I might have to sleep in my car tonight.

Sorry to hear about the sleeping arrangements :) .

[acdii]

So I went to breakfast with wifey this morning in my FFH. When we got there, I expected the MPG to be in the high 40's but I only saw 43 so I wondered out loud to my demise "I guess the extra pounds really affects the MPG". I felt a burning sensation from the passenger side and saw my wife's "THE LOOK" that I haven't seen in years! I might have to sleep in my car tonight.

At least you will be comfortable.

[DeeCee]

For what its worth:

 

Made a 100 mile round trip today with about 40% on two lane 55 mph highway, 40% on interstate at 70mph and 20% city streets. First half of trip reported 48 mpg and return trip was 43 mpg. Was a warm day with temp of about 68 deg. F. On the interstate run I set cruise at 71 mph and used the Engage display to monitor things. The instantaneous ICE milage varied between 25 mpg and 50 mpg but usually showed about 40 mpg on level highway and would drop to around 30 on slight upgrades and increase to 50 on downgrades. Also saw a little EV blue bar on the upgrades as the EV was assiting. Battery charge stayed at about 75% most of the time.

[B25Nut]

DC, if Ford has to go to court, you need to be defense witness #1. Yours was a real world trip and it averaged within 2 of the EPA MPG. There is nothing wrong with the basic design of the FFH.

[lolder]

Drove against a 30-40mph-gust snow storm from a cold start on my way to work yesterday, got 32mpg, worst Ive ever seen. Got this on the way back...

That's a 60 mph wind difference. The wind penalty is 0.3 mpg per wind mph = 18 mpg. Yours was 50-32=18.

[tombarker13ffh]

Seems like I can get 50 on the way home no matter the weather. Ive got it every night this work week. Got 47 on the way to work today with cruise on 60. Temps got up to the low 50s :)