600 mile club

[Nick Golden]

 

 

 

I've never been able to put in much more than 11.5gal myself and that would be after I went several miles past zero DTE.

 

I track both the gallons that my FFH says I used and how much the gas pump says I put in. I also try to use the same pumps every time. What I have observed is that if I don't kick the pump after it kicks out the difference between what my FFH says I used and the amount the pump says I put in is much smaller. Over the long run, I've decreased the difference between what my FFH says I've used and how much I pump by no longer adding more after the first click. This makes me think that much of the extra gas I was putting in after the click was being lost.

My buddy works for a major gas station chain around here and he says when the gas pump "clicks" it sucks gasoline back into the system. This is done for emissions reasons and to prevent a spill. He laughs when people "top off" because he gets to sell that gas twice.

 

In my opinion, you should pump to the first click only. If you feel patient, slow down your pumping rate as you get closer to your total fill-up.

[keybman]

My buddy works for a major gas station chain around here and he says when the gas pump "clicks" it sucks gasoline back into the system. This is done for emissions reasons and to prevent a spill. He laughs when people "top off" because he gets to sell that gas twice.

 

In my opinion, you should pump to the first click only. If you feel patient, slow down your pumping rate as you get closer to your total fill-up.

 

One possible response would be to refer your buddy to the following article:

 

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/spurious-gas-saving-tips.shtml

[carloscurti]

The gage in the FFH lies. That is because Ford lied to keep the truth from coming out, but it did in the end no matter what. Actual mileage is worse than advertised. Yes, you can drive in the city like a grandma and hypermile with air conditioning off in the summer and you will get high numbers. But the highway numbers are way off, no if or buts about that. I am reaching 8,000 miles now and kept a close tally on this. Had taken my car in many times to get everything checked out before, and all I saw was protecting the lie. Now it's in the public, I am taking it back so I can get a check from Ford. 42mpg is still way optimistic for normal highway driving, but closer to the truth. Hope they recalibrate the gage as well. I never have been able to put more than 11.5 gallons in the car either. No clue why it keeps that much apparent reserve.

[acdii]

The gage in the FFH lies. That is because Ford lied to keep the truth from coming out, but it did in the end no matter what. Actual mileage is worse than advertised. Yes, you can drive in the city like a grandma and hypermile with air conditioning off in the summer and you will get high numbers. But the highway numbers are way off, no if or buts about that. I am reaching 8,000 miles now and kept a close tally on this. Had taken my car in many times to get everything checked out before, and all I saw was protecting the lie. Now it's in the public, I am taking it back so I can get a check from Ford. 42mpg is still way optimistic for normal highway driving, but closer to the truth. Hope they recalibrate the gage as well. I never have been able to put more than 11.5 gallons in the car either. No clue why it keeps that much apparent reserve.

This has been covered in many threads. The fuel gauge is computer driven based on averages. If your first fill is 10 gallons, the 2nd and 3rd fills are 10 gallons, the computer will set your DTE based on 10 gallons. The first tank is very conservative on DTE to prevent you from running out of gas. If you drive it until you have used 12 gallons, then do that for the next few tanks, your DTE will start to show as longer miles until empty. According to what I read in a PDF that explains the system there is no direct link between the float in the tank and the fuel gauge on the dash, the computer is between them. It also does not know your tank capacity, just how many gallons have been used.

[carloscurti]

That may be what the manual says but it is not what it does.

[carloscurti]

That may be what the manual says but it is not what it does.

[ptjones]

 

One possible response would be to refer your buddy to the following article:

 

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/spurious-gas-saving-tips.shtml

That only works if there is a return suction line wihi

 

 

 

 

I've never been able to put in much more than 11.5gal myself and that would be after I went several miles past zero DTE.

 

I track both the gallons that my FFH says I used and how much the gas pump says I put in. I also try to use the same pumps every time. What I have observed is that if I don't kick the pump after it kicks out the difference between what my FFH says I used and the amount the pump says I put in is much smaller. Over the long run, I've decreased the difference between what my FFH says I've used and how much I pump by no longer adding more after the first click. This makes me think that much of the extra gas I was putting in after the click was being lost.

How many gallons did the Smart Gauge say you used? :)

 

Paul

ch most pumps don't have outside Metro Areas. I thought there was a thread wear someone ran out of gas and put 13.5gals in. Seems odd that the tank wouldn't be bigger than that. IMO CMAX is 13.9-14gallon tank depending how level the car is. :)

 

Paul

[MaineFusion]

That only works if there is a return suction line wihi

 

How many gallons did the Smart Gauge say you used? :)

 

Paul

ch most pumps don't have outside Metro Areas. I thought there was a thread wear someone ran out of gas and put 13.5gals in. Seems odd that the tank wouldn't be bigger than that. IMO CMAX is 13.9-14gallon tank depending how level the car is. :)

 

Paul

 

If I don't fill past first click, the amount of gas the pump says I put in and the amount the car thinks I used will usually be less than 1/2 gallon. When I fill up gets dictated by my commute. It is 100mi round trip and a prefer to fill up at on station near my home. Thus if DTE is less than 100 mi near home and I have to commute the next day I will fill up. If I'm at work and DTE is over 50mi then I'll wait to get home to fill up.

[hybridbear]

I find that the first click of the pump is usually about 1 gallon less than what the trip computer says I've used. If I wait a 10-15 seconds before turning the pump back on then it will not click off again until it has surpassed the amount the trip computer says I've used.

[bradycl98258]

So, I was pretty excited on my last tank, where I hit 618, but decided not to post it because there was a pump malfunction when I filled up afterwards and it said I put 14.25 gallons in. Even though I spent the last 20 miles below 0 DTE, I will never know exactly how my first 600 mile tank really stacked up. (I decided to estimate my fill on Fuelly as 13.25 to be conservative.)

But *day-um*. I know how I did this time.

 

The crazy awesome is that I actually was only able to stuff (with my normal 2 extra clicks) 11.86 gallons into the tank. Actual mileage: 54.8. I didn't even get a fuel warning until about 625.

 

I'm beginning to love summertime...

[MaineFusion]

I find that the first click of the pump is usually about 1 gallon less than what the trip computer says I've used. If I wait a 10-15 seconds before turning the pump back on then it will not click off again until it has surpassed the amount the trip computer says I've used.

How much do you typically put in your tank?

[hybridbear]

How much do you typically put in your tank?

I try to wait until the trip meter says I've used 11+ gallons before filling up and my Fuelly history shows that I'm usually quite close between the pump and the car. I try to include in my notes the gallons according to the car. If you look at the black FFH you can see a longer history than in the white car.

Edited June 26, 2014 by hybridbear

[swingdj]

In! I had 10 miles left on range.

[swingdj]

Here's the shot.

Edited June 27, 2014 by swingdj

[acdii]

Last tank, I really pushed it. 633 miles 12.76 gallons.

[thavil]

_{I actually have a chance at a 700 mile tank but not sure I want to chance it. We'll see what the guages say tonight when I get home.}

 

 

Edited July 1, 2014 by thavil

[Gigi]

Had my first 700 mile tank in my 2012 FFH. There was still 1.2 gallons left in the tank, good for another 50 miles. I was pleased that calculations at the pump came out to 43 mpg for a trip that was nearly all highway driving considering that the EPA rating is 41 city and 36 highway.

[corncobs]

_{I actually have a chance at a 700 mile tank but not sure I want to chance it. We'll see what the guages say tonight when I get home.}

 

Your fuel gauge isn't even yellow yet I think this will be a 700 mile tank. :)

[mike72]

I do 600 on ever fill, but I have gotten mid 700's few times.

Current trip would put me at mid 800's

 

[corncobs]

I do 600 on ever fill, but I have gotten mid 700's few times.

Current trip would put me at mid 800's

 

Pretty insane numbers you are posting here.

Very nice.

[hybridbear]

I do 600 on ever fill, but I have gotten mid 700's few times.

Current trip would put me at mid 800's

Very impressive! How do you do it? What're your driving patterns like?

 

I also see you have a lot of miles. Are you still on the original tires? Did you have the 17-inch wheels or 18-inch wheels? Have you had any mechanical issues after the warranty ended?

Edited August 21, 2014 by hybridbear

[KLH]

If I drive to 0 DTE and put 13.3 gallons in, I can get ~580s when I get back to 0 DTE. Of course, this has been a rare occurrence (meaning one time). I'm happy with the mileage, so I don't feel a need to repeat.

[mike72]

I had original tires 17 inch which would have lasted till end of year. Original brakes also. I had 1 issues with it 3 months of owning. It was making a faint clicking sound every time during acceleration. Dealer fixed it and haven't had single issue since. I changed oil every 10K, figured 10K was fine since I was only putting 3k - 4K on fuel engine and the rest on electric motor.

 

The driving is a matter of maintaing speeds and no fast accelerations. I avoiding using electric on inclines and hills as it uses battery alot faster. and i use the hill assist button on alot in hilly areas as I find it also charges battery alittle faster. Avoid AC and heating. In the beginning of summer with AC I was doing about 49MPG which is far cry from mid 50's and current 59.3 MPG.

 

I reluctantly traded the old girl in today and picked up and new 2014.

I hope this one is as good as the last one was.

I did 250 miles today and eeked out 49.6.

Car definetly feels stiffer and doesn't seem to roll as effortlessly as the other one. I feel it might be due to break in period.

[hybridbear]

I had original tires 17 inch which would have lasted till end of year. Original brakes also. I had 1 issues with it 3 months of owning. It was making a faint clicking sound every time during acceleration. Dealer fixed it and haven't had single issue since. I changed oil every 10K, figured 10K was fine since I was only putting 3k - 4K on fuel engine and the rest on electric motor.

 

The driving is a matter of maintaing speeds and no fast accelerations. I avoiding using electric on inclines and hills as it uses battery alot faster. and i use the hill assist button on alot in hilly areas as I find it also charges battery alittle faster. Avoid AC and heating. In the beginning of summer with AC I was doing about 49MPG which is far cry from mid 50's and current 59.3 MPG.

 

I reluctantly traded the old girl in today and picked up and new 2014.

I hope this one is as good as the last one was.

I did 250 miles today and eeked out 49.6.

Car definetly feels stiffer and doesn't seem to roll as effortlessly as the other one. I feel it might be due to break in period.

Which wheels/tires are on the new one?

 

The 18-inch tires seem to cost about 4-5 MPG (about 10% drop).

Edited August 22, 2014 by hybridbear

[SaveSomeGreen]

I had traveled 8 miles below 0 DTE. With my 2010 Fusion 3.0 I was able to travel 25 to 30 miles after 0 DTE I did this often and my low gas warning would always come on at 50 miles to empty.

What is DTE?