DodgerFan Report post Posted August 4, 2009 Anybody with a FFH (or 2010 Fusion) having issue with the wipers bouncing, and not gliding smoothly in rain? I checked the blades and they seem pliable, although they seem to bend better in one direction than the other. The bounce is much more intense in one direction, and got pretty violent in the last big rain storm. I did put Rain-X on the windows right after I got the car home. I wonder if it is doing something? I have always used Rain-X as it seemed to help things on my old Accord. Only had the car for a few days, but love it so far! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamooche Report post Posted August 4, 2009 Anybody with a FFH (or 2010 Fusion) having issue with the wipers bouncing, and not gliding smoothly in rain? I checked the blades and they seem pliable, although they seem to bend better in one direction than the other. The bounce is much more intense in one direction, and got pretty violent in the last big rain storm. I did put Rain-X on the windows right after I got the car home. I wonder if it is doing something? I have always used Rain-X as it seemed to help things on my old Accord. Only had the car for a few days, but love it so far! It's the Rain-X. My wipers were working perfectly until I put Rain-X on. It's worn off a bit now, so it's stopped bouncing. Thus I will only use Rain-X on the rear window only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lrymal Report post Posted August 4, 2009 I did put Rain-X on the windows right after I got the car home. I wonder if it is doing something? I have always used Rain-X as it seemed to help things on my old Accord.Yup, definitely the Rain-X, or at least that has been my experience with past vehicles. Go to an auto-parts store, Wal-Mart, etc., and purchase Stoner's Invisible Glass. This stuff is great in keeping oils, waxes, and other mess off the glass. Cleans the glass wonderfully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smr2112 Report post Posted August 4, 2009 Speaking of wipers, had anybody swapped to another brand? I have used similar to these on a pastcar and love them. Stoners is a great product and that also make a spray product with rain repellentin it - which I also have used, just not on the FFH yet. Very easy to use. These are the top rated from consumer reports http://www.amazon.com/Valeo-900-24-1B-Ulti...;qid=1249401750 Stoners - excellent product http://www.properautocare.com/stinglwirare.html Front wipers on the FFH are 24"/19" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DodgerFan Report post Posted August 4, 2009 Yup, definitely the Rain-X, or at least that has been my experience with past vehicles. Go to an auto-parts store, Wal-Mart, etc., and purchase Stoner's Invisible Glass. This stuff is great in keeping oils, waxes, and other mess off the glass. Cleans the glass wonderfully. Thanks for all the input. Any ideas on how to remove the Rain-X? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smr2112 Report post Posted August 4, 2009 Thanks for all the input. Any ideas on how to remove the Rain-X? Very hard to do, you basically have to let it wear off. Rubbing alcohol helps alot.But something like lighter fluid (naptha) will break the bond to the windshield. Usevery sparingly when you apply. Goof off, something similar. Test a small area inthe corner. Wash it good when done, may have to do it several times. Use at your on discretion! I am not sure this will not etch or haze you window (Ihighly doubt it) - but will damage your paint if not careful. Whatever you do, don't use anything every a little abrasive. I've put that type stuff on several times and it's great when it rains, but the rest of thetime, I regret it. http://www.goof-off.com/ -- great stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lrymal Report post Posted August 4, 2009 Thanks for all the input. Any ideas on how to remove the Rain-X?As mentioned in my message, use Stoner's Invisible Glass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby Report post Posted August 4, 2009 Barkeeper's Friend or Bon Ami also works and won't damage the paint (as long as you don't rub it in). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickkel Report post Posted August 7, 2009 Thanks for all the input. Any ideas on how to remove the Rain-X? Rain-X doesn't last very long on windshields (at most about three months even if it doesn't rain) so don't worry about trying to get it off as it will wear itself off fast enough. Interestingly, I was having trouble with the wipers "bouncing" when using them with the windshield washers so I put on Rain-X to stop it from doing that and it worked. Go figure. I have used Rain-X for about ten years now and have never had that problem. The other glass products mentioned in this post sound intriguing though so I plan to try them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFHdriver Report post Posted August 26, 2009 Yup, definitely the Rain-X, or at least that has been my experience with past vehicles. Go to an auto-parts store, Wal-Mart, etc., and purchase Stoner's Invisible Glass. This stuff is great in keeping oils, waxes, and other mess off the glass. Cleans the glass wonderfully.I changed mine the day after getting the car to Trico Neoform Beam Blades. I had this type OEM wiper blades on previous two cars and they wiped great. So far it hasn't rained to give them a try, but they worked fine using the windshield washer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FtLewis2002 Report post Posted August 26, 2009 I've noticed that mine will bounce if there's not enough water on the windshield...like running them on too high a setting when it's sprinkling. I put rain-x on the windshield, and hardly use them now. I also use the invisible glass...good stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFHdriver Report post Posted August 28, 2009 I changed mine the day after getting the car to Trico Neoform Beam Blades. I had this type OEM wiper blades on previous two cars and they wiped great. So far it hasn't rained to give them a try, but they worked fine using the windshield washer.It rained "cats and dogs" yesterday and the new blades wiped fine with no bouncing or skipping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DodgerFan Report post Posted September 18, 2009 Well, in my case at least, it is pretty clear the problem was due to the RainX. The wipers are functioning just fine now. Guess I will check out the invisible glass product. Thanks for all the input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smr2112 Report post Posted September 18, 2009 Well, in my case at least, it is pretty clear the problem was due to the RainX. The wipers are functioning just fine now. Guess I will check out the invisible glass product. Thanks for all the input. I always wondered if the Rain-X type products do more damage to the wipers than they doto the windshield. Anybody else try any other wipers blade types? I think good bladesare much more benefit than the window treatments (on the front anyway) - the other windowsit's a big help, otherwise you just get "smear" in light rain. I am about to buy these: http://www.valeowipersusa.com/index.asp?pgid=19 I like the blades that have a plastic cap over the hook like Valeo and Bosch Icon (any others?)The Rain-X blades work great, but fit poorly and look terrible. Consumer Reports had a test/reviewof many and Rain-X got the top honor. I have used them on a past car, but won't on the FFH. Amazon sells most of the major blades at a good price. The 2010 FFH wiper sizes are 24" driver and 19" passenger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveM Report post Posted September 18, 2009 I always wondered if the Rain-X type products do more damage to the wipers than they doto the windshield. Anybody else try any other wipers blade types? I think good bladesare much more benefit than the window treatments (on the front anyway) - the other windowsit's a big help, otherwise you just get "smear" in light rain. I am about to buy these: http://www.valeowipersusa.com/index.asp?pgid=19 I like the blades that have a plastic cap over the hook like Valeo and Bosch Icon (any others?)The Rain-X blades work great, but fit poorly and look terrible. Consumer Reports had a test/reviewof many and Rain-X got the top honor. I have used them on a past car, but won't on the FFH. Amazon sells most of the major blades at a good price. The 2010 FFH wiper sizes are 24" driver and 19" passenger. I've used Rain X on my motorhome since new 8 years ago as it is a big help to those massive pieces of glass on a class A motorhome. Last spring, year 7 I replaced the blades so I see where the Rain X did no harm and the Rain X was more help than the $15 per blade I had to pay for new ones. As a matter of fact my replacement blades from Wally World are Rain X Blades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ICEY Report post Posted December 14, 2009 Thanks for all the input. Any ideas on how to remove the Rain-X? Had the same problem with bounce.I spoke with a auto detailer I trust. Asked him if I could use body clay along with soapy water. Said sure.Use a clean piece of the clay. It took all the grime, rain x, bugs etc. worked great Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ace43 Report post Posted December 15, 2009 Interesting! I've used Rain-X for over 20 years on everything from Corvettes to my Suburban and have never experienced wiper bounce. I'm not saying it can't happen or that Rain-X can't be the cause of it, just that I've never seen it. I put Rain-X on my FFH in three coats the minute I got it home. I've got 1200 miles on it so far and have yet to use the wipers at all. I have almost 100,000 miles on my Suburban and have yet to replace the wipers, mainly because I have just about no need for them. If I do use them and get wiper bounce, I'll try backing off on the wiper speed. I can see where the Rain-X might allow for faster wiper speeds, but if that is the case I can just back the speed down. If I run into problems with Rain-X, I will announce it here, but, for now, I'm still a Rain-X fan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FtLewis2002 Report post Posted December 15, 2009 I always wondered if the Rain-X type products do more damage to the wipers than they doto the windshield. Anybody else try any other wipers blade types? I think good bladesare much more benefit than the window treatments (on the front anyway) - the other windowsit's a big help, otherwise you just get "smear" in light rain. I am about to buy these: http://www.valeowipersusa.com/index.asp?pgid=19 I like the blades that have a plastic cap over the hook like Valeo and Bosch Icon (any others?)The Rain-X blades work great, but fit poorly and look terrible. Consumer Reports had a test/reviewof many and Rain-X got the top honor. I have used them on a past car, but won't on the FFH. Amazon sells most of the major blades at a good price. The 2010 FFH wiper sizes are 24" driver and 19" passenger. The 24 and 19" blades are the same ones on the 06 Fusions. I use the Rain-X Latitudes to knock the snow off, and use Rain-X on my windshield religiously. Mine don't skip or chatter except with factory blades. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mgbabe Report post Posted December 15, 2009 I've noticed that mine will bounce if there's not enough water on the windshield...like running them on too high a setting when it's sprinkling. I put rain-x on the windshield, and hardly use them now. I also use the invisible glass...good stuff My factory blade bounces too on the return stroke (sometimes) on the passenger side only. It is also due to not enough water on the windshield. I don't use Rain-X on it because I seem to remember it would leave very small beaded water droplets (almost like a haze) after the wipers stroke. Very difficult to see through at night with on-coming headlights. I use Rain-X on the other windows though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seamusbleu Report post Posted December 15, 2009 I'm putting my vote in for being a rain-x guy. I'm not religious about it (too lazy I guess - I generally wish I used it more often than I do). With rain-x one, I use the wipers at intermittent speed at best until it's really starting to come down. One thing to try that almost always helps with wiper issues is to wipe the blades with a cotton ball (or something) and rubbing alcohol. Cleaning the dirt/grease/rain-x(?) off the blades always seems to help. Let me (us) know if it helps you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ranger_Rick Report post Posted December 15, 2009 Passenger side bounces on the return stroke. These are the factory blades. This is very annoying. If I do a very careful cleaning of the windshield with Windex the bounce will go away for about 1 week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ace43 Report post Posted December 15, 2009 (edited) I've noticed that mine will bounce if there's not enough water on the windshield...like running them on too high a setting when it's sprinkling. I put rain-x on the windshield, and hardly use them now. I also use the invisible glass...good stuff I have to wonder whether the bounce is in fact the result of "running them on too high a setting when it's sprinkling". If the Rain-X makes the windshield less resistant to the friction of the wiper blade, this could account for the bounce. I wonder also why someone is using Rain-X and using their wiper blades at a high or even moderate speed. I thought the point of Rain-X usage was to minimize and, for me anyway, eliminate wiper usage. If I ever do use the wipers, it is only for a single swipe and that eliminates any chance of bounce. If you put on multiple coats of Rain-X, you can pretty much do without your wipers. As for seeing the little spots of rain on the glass, even that is better than the smears you get without Rain-X, and we're supposed to be focusing on the road, not the windshield, anyway. It's like looking outside through a screen door. It's just a matter of focus. Edited December 15, 2009 by ace43 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goody1926 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 My factory blade bounces too on the return stroke (sometimes) on the passenger side only. It is also due to not enough water on the windshield. I don't use Rain-X on it because I seem to remember it would leave very small beaded water droplets (almost like a haze) after the wipers stroke. Very difficult to see through at night with on-coming headlights. I use Rain-X on the other windows though. Aggravating downstroke bounce on passenger side for me also. Only if it's a heavy rain does it not bounce. Light rain, mist etc... always bounces. Waiting for a sale on a reasonable pair to replace them both. Got it on my list to complain to dealer about because its done it almost since day 1. Nothing they will likely do but at least it's logged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FtLewis2002 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 It's definitely in the blades. I swapped over to the rain-x latitudes, and still use the rain-x. no bounce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FtLewis2002 Report post Posted December 16, 2009 I have to wonder whether the bounce is in fact the result of "running them on too high a setting when it's sprinkling". If the Rain-X makes the windshield less resistant to the friction of the wiper blade, this could account for the bounce. I wonder also why someone is using Rain-X and using their wiper blades at a high or even moderate speed. I thought the point of Rain-X usage was to minimize and, for me anyway, eliminate wiper usage. If I ever do use the wipers, it is only for a single swipe and that eliminates any chance of bounce. If you put on multiple coats of Rain-X, you can pretty much do without your wipers. As for seeing the little spots of rain on the glass, even that is better than the smears you get without Rain-X, and we're supposed to be focusing on the road, not the windshield, anyway. It's like looking outside through a screen door. It's just a matter of focus. Yes, the rain-x itself works great on rain and I don't even use the wipers. But when it's done snowing, and beginning to melt, the rain-x does nothing for all the dirt-filled splash-back from the cars in front of you, let alone the crap thrown by the big rigs. And no, you're not going to back off far enough to get out of it as someone else will swoop right in the spot you leave open in Colorado. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites