2013 Ford Fusion MPG Challenge

[hermans]

Since Fynack seems to be completely satisfied with the MPG that he is getting in his new Lexus, I really hope that he won't be coming around to bring other members down any more. But if he does come around looking for something to complain about, I would like to suggest that he visit the Mayan forum to complain about the world not ending on December 21, 2012 as "advertised".

My sister lives in Merida, Mexico. She had an "end of the world" party. She was disappointed that she had to clean up the mess.

[Code_Warrior]

Well, it looks like some have taken on Mr. Cho's challenge and reported their results. If he comes back here I hope he has a fist full of crisp new $100. bills.

If he does not come up with the $100 bills, he is guilty of false advertising. Maybe a lawsuit is in order.

[Fynack]

Im here ... wheres the video...I dont false advertise :)

[Fynack]

This wasnt ment to irk the good mpg cars. This is to find out if driving habit is really an issue by watching one else. And if they drove like I did then there was something definitely wrong ir different with the car in my build date.

Edited March 4, 2013 by Fynack

[GreenAussie]

I'm not sure about all your stringent criteria but I have logged over 800 miles on Fuelly at an average over 45 MPG. I would say that is not bad for the winter months with a car of just over 1000 Miles. I have no doubt that once the warmer months hit this will be over EPA. Now I am not disputing that there are people here that have legitimate problems with their cars, but I will also say it is possible to get EPA and more in a properly functioning vehicle. I have actually got runs on this car over 60 MPG.

 

Will every properly functioning vehicle get this, No. Because assuming the car is working properly the biggest influence of MPG is the hunk on flesh behind the wheel. I have always got above EPA in every car I have owned and from what I have seen so far in this car, over the year I will for this one too.

 

Just my 2c :)

[acdii]

Not just driving styles, but where driven seems to matter most with this car. Short trips, under 10 miles, equates to poor MPG. The more city driving and fewer highway miles seems to be returning the highest miles. I know mine does very well when driven under 45, and can get regen in, but on the open road, not so good at all.

 

 

And as I type this an Avalon commercial plays......

[Fynack]

I'm not sure about all your stringent criteria but I have logged over 800 miles on Fuelly at an average over 45 MPG. I would say that is not bad for the winter months with a car of just over 1000 Miles. I have no doubt that once the warmer months hit this will be over EPA. Now I am not disputing that there are people here that have legitimate problems with their cars, but I will also say it is possible to get EPA and more in a properly functioning vehicle. I have actually got runs on this car over 60 MPG.

 

Will every properly functioning vehicle get this, No. Because assuming the car is working properly the biggest influence of MPG is the hunk on flesh behind the wheel. I have always got above EPA in every car I have owned and from what I have seen so far in this car, over the year I will for this one too.

 

Just my 2c :)

 

45mpg is a spectacular number that everyone would be happy with in winter summer spring or fall. The temperature doesn't appear to affect your car nor does any break-in period . The hunk of flesh does play a big part in the equation. What are the ones doing to get the 45+ Doing? I accelerated 1700-2000 rpm to speed then set right into Ecco cruise and that didnt get this hunk of flesh past 38. Are you using cruise control or using other techniques likes accelerating then dropping to ev , letting that drain than accelerating again and repeating? Also when did you purchase your vehicle?

[B25Nut]

"And as I type this an Avalon commercial plays".

 

Toyota advertises the 2013 Avalon as being "radically new". It's a great car, but Toyota has a different impression of what radical means than I do.

Edited March 4, 2013 by B25Nut

[GrySql]

"And as I type this an Avalon commercial plays".

 

Toyota advertises the 2013 Avalon as being "radically different". It's a great car, but Toyota has a different impression of what radical means than I do.

My wife and I were driving in Los Angeles the other day and a truck transport loaded with Lexus and Avalon hybrid cars was next to us on the parked freeway.

I could even read the window stickers and the EPA fuel 'guesstimate' printed on them in bold letters.

I asked her if she liked the design and looks of those cars, compared to ours, they get similar mileage and are nice vehicles.

 

She is NOT interested in cars per se, so after looking at them for awhile she decided that they were 'plain looking and I like our car better'.

She admits to struggling with learning this digital car and prefers simpler ways (the old ways) of driving, V-8's, analog buttons and instrument panels.

I have the same feelings sometimes, but time marches on and I am very computer literate, those items challenge me and I like them.

Those Toyota's and Lexus cars are generic looking and more expensive.

So what that if those cars get the EPA's 41mpg's, my car does better, looks better and is much cheaper.

If you have the 'hard earned' money to spend an extra $8k just for a principle I think your money is not so 'hard earned' as others might mean it.

 

I still have my other ozone burner V-8, rear wheel drive car in the garage for those days when the sun shines and the convertible top goes down.

Blistering the pavement and leaving a tire smoking stop sign makes it a lot of fun to be young again that way.

Edited March 4, 2013 by GrySql

[Fynack]

My wife and I were driving in Los Angeles the other day and an truck transport loaded with Lexus and Avalon hybrid cars was next to us on the parked freeway.

I asked her if she liked the design and looks of those cars, compared to ours, they get similar mileage and are nice vehicles.

She is NOT interested in cars per se, so after looking at them for awhile she decided that they were 'plain looking and I like our car better'.

She admits to struggling with learning this digital car and prefers simpler ways (the old ways) of driving, V-8's, analog buttons and instrument panels.

I have the same feelings sometimes, but time marches on and I am very computer literate, those items challenge me and I like them.

Those Toyota's and Lexus cars are generic looking and more expensive. So what that if those cars get the EPA's 41mpg's, my car does better, looks better and is much cheaper.

If you have the 'hard earned' money to spend an extra $8k just for a principle I think your money is not so 'hard earned' as others might mean it.

 

I still have my other V-8 ozone burner V-8, rear wheel drive car in the garage for those days when the sun shines and the convertible top goes down, blistering the pavement and leaving a tire smoking stop sign.

It's a lot of fun to be young again that way.

 

 

Jeez the insults never stop. How do you know how hard I work ? Principles are based on personal values and you can't put a price on it can you? Some may not care when someone lies to them but then again two people can total disagree that it was even a lie. Just look at politics , if your behind supporting someone they can do no wrong even when others clearly see lies or deception. Based on my own principle the money was worth not advertising the Ford brand everyday, every time I drive. It's not just because the mpgs, it's also because the dealers are incompetent and they refuse to do anything about it.

[GrySql]

Jeez the insults never stop. How do you know how hard I work ?

Okay, bad choice of words on my part, I apologize.

For that, only.

Edited March 4, 2013 by GrySql

[ace8726872]

45mpg is a spectacular number that everyone would be happy with in winter summer spring or fall. The temperature doesn't appear to affect your car nor does any break-in period . The hunk of flesh does play a big part in the equation. What are the ones doing to get the 45+ Doing? I accelerated 1700-2000 rpm to speed then set right into Ecco cruise and that didnt get this hunk of flesh past 38. Are you using cruise control or using other techniques likes accelerating then dropping to ev , letting that drain than accelerating again and repeating? Also when did you purchase your vehicle?

 

Don't you have anything better to do than to come back to a forum to discuss the finer points about a car that you hate and no longer own?

 

There are few other owners who are getting less than spectacular MPG and they are not so happy with it. However, they do not accuse other owners of lying like you do, they do not try to stop other owners from enjoying the cars at every single topic like you do, and they do not forget the fact that there are more to FFH than just the MPG numbers. More importantly, they are considerate of other members because this is a community of many people who are here because they share the passion for everything about cars, love their FFHs and want to exchange information and experiences to enrich the ownership.

 

So, now that you sold your FFH, why are you here? I am not sure why other members would even take up on your challenge because it's not a challenge at all. I, for one, am happy with the car as are many owners here. I don't see any reason I should spend any time and effort to prove anything to you. Since you are the one who is having issues with your purchase, why didn't you video tape your driving experience when you had your FFH and post them up on YouTube. That would have certainly been better evidence to take to court as evidence than your whining In this forum.

 

I read your previous post where you complained that you didn't understand why you had to work hard to get the advertised MPG. You just wanted to get into your FFH, drive it any way you want and still get the 47/47/47. I really am struggling with your logic here. So just by attending high school, you expect your kids to get perfect SAT scores? Because you buy a golf club that is capable is sending the goofball 350 yards, you will sue the maker because you can only do 250 yards? When you go to the grocery stores, how do you trust their scales? They might be ripping you off big time. How about your Internet speed at home. Are you also suing your ISP because they cannot guarantee the Internet download speeds that they advertised 100% of the time?

 

Wouldn't you want to take you losses and move on about now? It is not healthy to dwell on a bad experience too long. Surely, you want to enjoy life, not live you days unhappy because you bought a lemon of a car. Please keep you word that you will stop coming to this forum as of Feb 28. If you are really a man of principal, you will do what you said you would.

[Fynack]

Its actually very simple. Just ignore my threads. Theres plenty of "happy mpg" " positive comments only" topics available to you. Obviously im hitting a button if others are reading and replying to it rather than the happy and positive topics. This is rant and wrath against Ford for what "I" believe was a lie and you have the freedom to read or ignore it. Its also to let new buyers know what their getting into.

 

Peace

[Fynack]

Don't you have anything better to do than to come back to a forum to discuss the finer points about a car that you hate and no longer own?

 

There are few other owners who are getting less than spectacular MPG and they are not so happy with it. However, they do not accuse other owners of lying like you do, they do not try to stop other owners from enjoying the cars at every single topic like you do, and they do not forget the fact that there are more to FFH than just the MPG numbers. More importantly, they are considerate of other members because this is a community of many people who are here because they share the passion for everything about cars, love their FFHs and want to exchange information and experiences to enrich the ownership.

 

So, now that you sold your FFH, why are you here? I am not sure why other members would even take up on your challenge because it's not a challenge at all. I, for one, am happy with the car as are many owners here. I don't see any reason I should spend any time and effort to prove anything to you. Since you are the one who is having issues with your purchase, why didn't you video tape your driving experience when you had your FFH and post them up on YouTube. That would have certainly been better evidence to take to court as evidence than your whining In this forum.

 

I read your previous post where you complained that you didn't understand why you had to work hard to get the advertised MPG. You just wanted to get into your FFH, drive it any way you want and still get the 47/47/47. I really am struggling with your logic here. So just by attending high school, you expect your kids to get perfect SAT scores? Because you buy a golf club that is capable is sending the goofball 350 yards, you will sue the maker because you can only do 250 yards? When you go to the grocery stores, how do you trust their scales? They might be ripping you off big time. How about your Internet speed at home. Are you also suing your ISP because they cannot guarantee the Internet download speeds that they advertised 100% of the time?

 

Wouldn't you want to take you losses and move on about now? It is not healthy to dwell on a bad experience too long. Surely, you want to enjoy life, not live you days unhappy because you bought a lemon of a car. Please keep you word that you will stop coming to this forum as of Feb 28. If you are really a man of principal, you will do what you said you would.

 

Your analogies are off. There is no golf club that estimates range. As for internet its pretty close. Its true there is no guarantee in speed, just an range in speed. But the difference is you can call the internet provider and they will actually do something about it. Add additional bandwidth, add additional gain on your line, or give you a credit on your bill. Ford chooses to do ZERO to relieve their customers or make them feel somewhat better about their purchase.

[Fynack]

Don't you have anything better to do than to come back to a forum to discuss the finer points about a car that you hate and no longer own?

 

There are few other owners who are getting less than spectacular MPG and they are not so happy with it. However, they do not accuse other owners of lying like you do, they do not try to stop other owners from enjoying the cars at every single topic like you do, and they do not forget the fact that there are more to FFH than just the MPG numbers. More importantly, they are considerate of other members because this is a community of many people who are here because they share the passion for everything about cars, love their FFHs and want to exchange information and experiences to enrich the ownership.

 

So, now that you sold your FFH, why are you here? I am not sure why other members would even take up on your challenge because it's not a challenge at all. I, for one, am happy with the car as are many owners here. I don't see any reason I should spend any time and effort to prove anything to you. Since you are the one who is having issues with your purchase, why didn't you video tape your driving experience when you had your FFH and post them up on YouTube. That would have certainly been better evidence to take to court as evidence than your whining In this forum.

 

I read your previous post where you complained that you didn't understand why you had to work hard to get the advertised MPG. You just wanted to get into your FFH, drive it any way you want and still get the 47/47/47. I really am struggling with your logic here. So just by attending high school, you expect your kids to get perfect SAT scores? Because you buy a golf club that is capable is sending the goofball 350 yards, you will sue the maker because you can only do 250 yards? When you go to the grocery stores, how do you trust their scales? They might be ripping you off big time. How about your Internet speed at home. Are you also suing your ISP because they cannot guarantee the Internet download speeds that they advertised 100% of the time?

 

Wouldn't you want to take you losses and move on about now? It is not healthy to dwell on a bad experience too long. Surely, you want to enjoy life, not live you days unhappy because you bought a lemon of a car. Please keep you word that you will stop coming to this forum as of Feb 28. If you are really a man of principal, you will do what you said you would.

let's see how alone I am in this. Vote in thr poll

[KingJL]

Just ignore my threads...

This little jewel of a suggestion I think I will take to heart. What an elegant solution!!

[B25Nut]

Fynack - I feel that part of the problem that Ford is facing is that since a lot of the FFHs are being purchased by first time hybrid owners, there are many who's driving habits are the cause of lower MPGs. If Ford were to say to you, Acdii and others who are driving the vehicle appropiately for great MPG and not getting it "Here's a new one to replace yours", they would be swamped by people with perfectly good cars demanding the same thing.

Edited March 5, 2013 by B25Nut

[acdii]

You know, I am beginning to wonder if driving this like any other Hybrid is not how to drive it. Today driving above 60 MPH with a nearly full pack and staying out of EV I got my best MPG ever. I hit 44 MPG on the dash, and 41 on the SG over my 26 mile trip to the inlaws to pick up the kids. Not ruling out that something is still not right with the car, but its like night and day difference.

[elle]

You know, I am beginning to wonder if driving this like any other Hybrid is not how to drive it. Today driving above 60 MPH with a nearly full pack and staying out of EV I got my best MPG ever. I hit 44 MPG on the dash, and 41 on the SG over my 26 mile trip to the inlaws to pick up the kids. Not ruling out that something is still not right with the car, but its like night and day difference.

 

I do better when I worry less about mileage and just drive-- within reason. If I am too quick on the accelerator then I will have serious mileage problems, but I have yet to really make a huge positive difference by trying to baby the car too much. It seems if I drive conservatively but without too much effort otherwise, I do pretty well.

[acdii]

Thats how I drive my 2010 and always got good MPG. Driving the new one like that didnt return the same results. Now that I tried it at over 60 MPH, I can drive it like the 2010. I basically get it up to 55 MPH and just feather the gas to keep it at the speed, letting it speed up and slow down on the hills without adding or releasing pressure on the pedal. At 55 on the 13, I cant do that, but at 61+ I can. Tomorrow big snow storm so I know the MPG will suck and not even going to try to do well, but once the roads clear up and I can hold a steady speed I will confirm tonights results weren't a fluke.

[steveo358]

I am glad you are doing better with your car acdii. I know its been frustrating for you. I hope everything works out for you and your car. BTW, where did you get your scanner, and what model is it? Seems like a good investment.

[acdii]

Thanks, I picked it up at Autozone, cost $172 with tax. You might find it cheaper online, but have to figure in shipping too. I think its about $159. I have heard of them on sale for about $99 but I miss those every time. Prius owners swear by them and I found it very handy so far.

 

http://www.scangauge.com/products/scangaugeii/

[TX NRG]

You know, I am beginning to wonder if driving this like any other Hybrid is not how to drive it. Today driving above 60 MPH with a nearly full pack and staying out of EV I got my best MPG ever. I hit 44 MPG on the dash, and 41 on the SG over my 26 mile trip to the inlaws to pick up the kids. Not ruling out that something is still not right with the car, but its like night and day difference.

 

Did you take off both grill covers, or are they still on? If they are still on, then some portion of your improved MPG at 60 MPH might be attributable to improved aerodynamics and higher operating temps from the covers and not entirely from trying a different technique. Cause is hard to determine when you change 2 variables and compare to the past control group. Either way, glad you're seeing some MPG improvement. Be careful on the drive home tomorrow in the snow.

[acdii]

The covers are helping with the temperature control, which is also helping with the fuel economy, as for aerodynamics, not ruling that out either. All I know is that as long as I keep it from using EV, the engine isn't working as hard and returning better fuel economy now.

 

However, its a band aid approach, and doesn't resolve the underlying issue, because this further enhances my claim that there is something not quite right. When Summer rolls around, and I have to take them off, we shall see if it resumes what it did in FL, or if it will actually start returning numbers the rest of you guys(and gals) see.

[Code_Warrior]

Here is my video of the mileage challenge.

It is a bit dodgy but it is close to the specs.

I covered up the microphone holes with my finger near the end of the video.

The trip was 53.7 MPG.

I don't expect the $100 but I DO expect that, in the future, I will not be accused of being less than honest about my MPG.