Oil Change Info for 2013+ Hybrid/Energi

[scn101]

What I don't get is they are the same exact engines and there are two recommended oil weights. More confusion from Ford.

 

According to this Ford document dated Dec 2013, I *think* Ford is now recommending 0W-20 for both 2013 and 2014 models:

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CGUQFjAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com%2Fmain%2Fquickref%2Foilchart.pdf&ei=8av2Uv-2H8uY2gWKuICwCg&usg=AFQjCNEPuJffBCa67ik9I0ljEv8ItqbdhA&sig2=lf-Sc6Xue8BeRwJPERF2gw&bvm=bv.60983673,d.b2I

[acdii]

Is that before or after Ford made the massive update to the Fusion and downgraded the cmax?

[corncobs]

I think it's more about trying to get closer EPA / better winter MPG than anything else. It's full synthetic and better viscosity in low temps ( as stated before )

I found an rather interesting article after some searching

 

http://www.smartsynthetics.com/articles/5w20oil.htm

[hybridbear]

Is that before or after Ford made the massive update to the Fusion and downgraded the cmax?

December 2013 is after the PCM update and the C-Max EPA change. Those changes happened in summer 2013, before MY 2014 FFH production started. My question is: what oil should I use when changing oil in my 2013 FFH? It sounds like 0W-20 is now the correct oil according to the document posted by scn101...

[GrySql]

If this is important enough to Ford then they ought to send out a TSB that our Oil Caps be changed (a new sticker?) to reflect this new oil 'recommendation'.

A letter to owners that can be included in their OM would be justified as well.

 

The difference in real performance may be a small help in the extreme cold but does nothing for the hot summer states.

If I lived in a polar vortex I'd run the 0W-20, out here in the desert, I'll just keep using 5W-20 full synthetic until Ford tells me not to.

Edited February 11, 2014 by GrySql

[inco]

Since the FFH is covered by an ESP plan, it will be up to the dealer as to what they install and chances are they will go by whatever to oil cap says, or what they have always been using. I'm not sure I get to specify what I want in it.

 

Toyota/Subaru now specify synthetic for engines in the past three years (our other car is an 11 Forester) and there are a lot of merits to it, despite the higher cost. What are most folks doing here? Regular dino oil or synthetic? Just curious. :noobie:

[SteveB_TX]

I just compared all the Owners Guide print versions for the 2013 and 2014 MKZh. Both 2013 print versions call for 5w20. The 2014 1st printing calls for 5w20, while the 2nd printing calls for 0w20. Huh? It's the same engine in both years. What is going on here? I only have 9500 or so miles before my next oil change. Ford better hurry up and straighten this mess out! :zombi:

Edited February 11, 2014 by SteveB_TX

[corncobs]

Ford probably hopes that specifying 0W20 will improve cold weather MPG other than that I don't see a reason for going 0.

Edited February 11, 2014 by corncobs

[acdii]

Ford probably hopes that specifying 0W20 will improve cold weather MPG other than that I don't see a reason for going 0.

I dont either, and believe it is to meet CAFE more than anything else. First number is cold start viscosity, not much difference between 0 and 5, and really only would be helpful in the subzeros we are currently seeing, but otherwise 5W is perfectly fine for all other temps. Once the engine warms up it doesn't matter at all since the second weight is the same.

[inco]

And the answer to your oil type is? Option 1. Dino

Option 2. Synthetic.

Let's see who is using what and then we can sort out the best brands in the next quiz!!!

[corncobs]

I guess my answer would be 2 or 1+2; 5W20 is available in full synthetic and synthetic blend.

Whatever they will fill in at Ford during an oil change will be fine with me. :)

[Sleigh Man]

Hello - new guy here. I've been lurking on this site as well as the Energi site for a while now, learning a lot. I recently bought a 2013 dealer demo Fusion Energi and am very pleased with it.

 

Regarding the oil debate, you may find this of interest...

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/main/product.asp?product=SAE%200W-20%20Premium%20Synthetic%20Blend%20Motor%20Oil&category=Motor%20Oil

 

"Motorcraft^® SAE 0W-20 Premium Synthetic Blend Motor Oil is a premium-quality passenger car motor oil recommended by Ford Motor Company for 2013 model year and forward hybrid electric vehicles."

 

Looks like 0W20 is approved for use in the 2013's. Living in WI, I'm going to use 0W20 at my first oil change.

[FordService]

Hello everyone,

 

I double-checked with my technical adviser and he said the following:

 

For 2013: Use 5W-20

For 2014: The recommendation is to use 0W-20, but you can use the 5W-20 if you'd like.

 

 

Ashley

[tr7driver]

My 2014 Ty Hi says 5W-20 on the fill cap

[Sleddog]

I'll continue to use the 5w20. I like having all my vehicles use the same oil.

[ptek]

Hello everyone,

 

I double-checked with my technical adviser and he said the following:

 

For 2013: Use 5W-20

For 2014: The recommendation is to use 0W-20, but you can use the 5W-20 if you'd like.

 

 

Ashley

Ashley,

 

Do the 2014s come with 0W-20 oil from the factory? Is the oil a synthetic blend, or full synthetic?

 

I changed the oil on my 2014 HyTi today and used a 0W-20 synthetic oil. I noticed the oil cap specifies 5W-20.

 

Thanks,

Pete

[FordService]

Ashley,

 

Do the 2014s come with 0W-20 oil from the factory? Is the oil a synthetic blend, or full synthetic?

 

I changed the oil on my 2014 HyTi today and used a 0W-20 synthetic oil. I noticed the oil cap specifies 5W-20.

 

Thanks,

Pete

 

Pete,

 

I responded to your PM. I'm fairly confident that they should have 0W-20 oil, but I'm waiting for confirmation just to be sure. I'll let you know ASAP.

 

Ashley

[FordService]

Hi everyone,

 

It appears that all of these questions you guys have thrown my way have resulted in some interesting discoveries. The oil recommendations in most of the printed materials for the 2014 Fusion Hybrid are incorrect. 5W-20 is still the recommended oil.

 

I did get complete confirmation that using 0W-20 oil is fine. It will not hurt anything and will not void your warranty, so long as you are having it changed at the appropriate intervals.

 

I'm sorry that it took this big, drawn-out conversation to get to the bottom of this, but at least it makes sense that your oil caps say 5W-20.

 

Thanks for all of your great questions!

 

Ashley

[acdii]

That is excellent news Ashley. So glad you are here to help clear these up.

[ptek]

Ashley, thanks for digging into this and getting it all sorted out!

[hybridbear]

Hi everyone,

 

It appears that all of these questions you guys have thrown my way have resulted in some interesting discoveries. The oil recommendations in most of the printed materials for the 2014 Fusion Hybrid are incorrect. 5W-20 is still the recommended oil.

 

I did get complete confirmation that using 0W-20 oil is fine. It will not hurt anything and will not void your warranty, so long as you are having it changed at the appropriate intervals.

 

I'm sorry that it took this big, drawn-out conversation to get to the bottom of this, but at least it makes sense that your oil caps say 5W-20.

 

Thanks for all of your great questions!

 

Ashley

Thanks for your diligence in getting this figured out!

[Rupert]

I can't find the type of motor oil in the manual. I saw a post earlier that said Motorcraft Synthetic Blend is usable so that's what I will be using. I'm at 22% oil life but it hasn't been a year and I'm only at 6,000 miles. Not sure if I should wait till June, which will be a full year. Yeah I'll probably do that.

[corncobs]

One year or 10k which ever comes first and type on the oil cap should say 5W30 which is the recommendation.

 

Ashley actually confirmed that some time ago and is marked with best answer on top of this thread. :)

Edited April 2, 2014 by corncobs

[murphy]

One year or 10k which ever comes first and type on the oil cap should say 5W30 which is the recommendation.

 

Ashley actually confirmed that some time ago and is marked with best answer on top of this thread. :)

The cap says 5W20.

[GrySql]

One year or 10k which ever comes first and type on the oil cap should say 5W30 which is the recommendation.

 

Ashley actually confirmed that some time ago and is marked with best answer on top of this thread. :)

CC, I believe that the oil cap should say SAE 5W-20 oil. :)