RoushSEL Report post Posted September 18, 2009 I have a 07 Jack Roush Edition SEL and I was wondering what I had to do to disable the dinger that dings when you don't use your seatbelt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveM Report post Posted September 18, 2009 why not just latch the belt? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oblivion Report post Posted September 18, 2009 we need pics of your car in order to answer your question... :P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbf2530 Report post Posted September 18, 2009 I have a 07 Jack Roush Edition SEL and I was wondering what I had to do to disable the dinger that dings when you don't use your seatbelt. Hi RoushSEL. If you truly insist on driving with no seatbelt, the instructions for disabling the warning chime are in the Owners Manual. Good luck. :beerchug: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpreuss Report post Posted September 18, 2009 Hi RoushSEL. If you truly insist on driving with no seatbelt, the instructions for disabling the warning chime are in the Owners Manual. Good luck. :beerchug: You should also disable the air bags too. And make sure your life insurance is paid up. :hysterical2: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nFused Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Last time I checked, we were free to do what we wanted. If you INSIST on wearing a seatbelt, great, but I get to choose wheather I do or not. If you don't agree, thats your right, but it's my right to CHOOSE! I am so sick of people trying to PREACH that THEIR way is the ONLY way. you don't have to agree, thats what makes this AMERICA. If you don't agree, great, then DON'T OPEN YOUR MOUTH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Last time I checked, we were free to do what we wanted. If you INSIST on wearing a seatbelt, great, but I get to choose wheather I do or not. If you don't agree, thats your right, but it's my right to CHOOSE! I am so sick of people trying to PREACH that THEIR way is the ONLY way. you don't have to agree, thats what makes this AMERICA. If you don't agree, great, then DON'T OPEN YOUR MOUTH. And you're also free to jump off a bridge or blow your brains out, too. Does that mean we should all help you do it? Besides being a smart thing to do, it's the law in most states (if not all). And if you think it doesn't affect other people, you're wrong. Your decision not to wear a seatbelt WILL affect the severity of your injuries if we're involved in a crash and it could mean the difference between vehicular homicide or just a traffic ticket. Unfortunately there are no laws against stupidity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wstcoaster07 Report post Posted September 23, 2009 refuse to wear a seat belt simply to express your right to chose.... just don't be upset when Darwinism works its magic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpreuss Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Whoa! My point in shutting off the air bags if you don't wear seat belts is simply because without the belts on to restrain you, and the air bag is deployed, the air bag can kill you. The air bags AND the seat belts are part of a system to try to keep you alive in a crash. That's your right to not wear them if it is not against the law in your state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Whoa! My point in shutting off the air bags if you don't wear seat belts is simply because without the belts on to restrain you, and the air bag is deployed, the air bag can kill you. Airbags were actually designed and implemented initially BECAUSE people wouldn't wear seatbelts. That's why they were so high-powered. They are more effective when used with seatbelts but airbags work perfectly fine without seatbelts - for adults. The only problem is when you have small children or very small adults who don't match up with the airbags. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rpreuss Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Airbags were actually designed and implemented initially BECAUSE people wouldn't wear seatbelts. That's why they were so high-powered. They are more effective when used with seatbelts but airbags work perfectly fine without seatbelts - for adults. The only problem is when you have small children or very small adults who don't match up with the airbags. You sure are correct. I just read the manual. It will only kill SMALL unbuckled passengers. That is the reason it is automatically disabled (The passenger frontal and side air bags) for small "loads". But after reading the entire section, with all the pre-tensioners, computer controlled deployment, etc. I can't understand why anyone would NOT want to wear the seat belts. But - It's a free country. And have a smoke with that. :doh: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby Report post Posted September 23, 2009 You sure are correct. I just read the manual. It will only kill SMALL unbuckled passengers. That is the reason it is automatically disabled (The passenger frontal and side air bags) for small "loads". But after reading the entire section, with all the pre-tensioners, computer controlled deployment, etc. I can't understand why anyone would NOT want to wear the seat belts. But - It's a free country. And have a smoke with that. :doh: They also depowered the airbags since seat belts are a requirement now. Sure wish they'd done that in the first place. Anytime you hear about a vehicle rollover and folks being ejected, you can almost be sure that they weren't wearing seatbelts and if they were they'd still be alive today. Personally, I don't think anyone should be held responsible for injuries or death incurred by a driver or passenger not wearing a seatbelt. And that includes the insurance companies. If people want to be stupid that's fine - just don't hold me accountable or raise my insurance rates to cover their stupidity. Same goes for motorcycle riders without helmets. Just ask Gary Busey (if he can actually understand a question). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dyoct Report post Posted September 27, 2009 If I recall correctly, you latch the belt, then promptly unlatch it and it should stop chiming. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
danager Report post Posted September 28, 2009 Last time I checked, you are required by law to wear your seatbelt (driver). So, yes you have the right to choose, you then choose to not operate the vehicle. What if I chose to fly a plane, seen it done hundreds of times, free country right? Good luck with that chime thingy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smr2112 Report post Posted October 2, 2009 Ask anyone (me for one) who has been in a full-on 40+ MPH accident, it was the seat belt that saved me fromserious injury, I walked away - the air bag did nothing because the seat belt did its job. I will never get in a car without my seatbelt after that experience. And can imagine anybodyin their right mind wouldn't wear theirs if they had that experience. Oh, and stop driving up the cost of our car insurance, health insurance and life insurance...I'm not willing to pay for your choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirak Report post Posted October 5, 2009 I agree that people should wear seatbelts. I always wear mine. Some of my work is auto accident litigation, so I'm familiar with the consequences. But I turned off the passenger belt warning for two reasons: 1. I often place heavy objects on the passenger seat. My briefcase is often heavy enough to trigger the warning. Having to latch the belt for a phantom passenger is annoying. 2. I sometimes have friends / co-workers riding shotgun who choose not to wear a seatbelt. When it's a loved one, I've got no problem telling them to buckle up, but when it's a co-worker, especially my boss, I don't like having to explain to them that my car is beeping because they're not wearing their seatbelt. It's embarrassing for me, and it's probably embarrassing for them to be lectured by me or my car. I appreciate that Ford, unlike some of the Japanese automakers, allow the customer the freedom to choose to disable the warning. Very American of them. Of course, these reasons probably won't make any sense to someone who responds to a message board inquiry with a wag of the finger and "wear your seatbelt." :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2010SEL Report post Posted October 8, 2009 Here is another good reason to want to disable the chime. My mailbox is about 1/4 mile from my house. In the morning on my way to work I drive down there to drop off mail at a maximum speed of 15 mph. I really see no need to put on my seatbelt at 5:30 AM on a deserted road at 15 mph for about 30 seconds. All the time listening to the stupid chime. I have to listen to the chime after work too when I pick up the mail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjoern0115 Report post Posted October 14, 2009 Deactivating/activating the Belt-Minder feature The driver and front passenger Belt-Minder aredeactivated/activated independently. When deactivating/activatingone seating position, do not buckle the other position as this willterminate the process. Read Steps 1 - 4 thoroughly before proceeding with thedeactivation/activation programming procedure. Note: The driver and front passenger Belt-Minder features must bedisabled/enabled separately. Both cannot be disable/enabled during thesame key cycle. The driver and front passenger Belt-Minder features can bedeactivated/activated by performing the following procedure: Before following the procedure, make sure that:• The parking brake is set• The gearshift is in N (Neutral) (manual transmission)• The gearshift is in P (Park) (automatic transmission)• The ignition switch is in the OFF position• The driver and front passenger safety belts are unbuckled 1. Turn the ignition switch to the RUN (or ON) position. (DO NOTSTART THE ENGINE) 2. Wait until the safety belt warning light turns off. (Approximately 1–2minutes) • Step 3 must be completed within 50 seconds after the safety beltwarning light turns off. 3. For the seating position being disabled, at a moderate speed, bucklethen unbuckle the safety belt 9 times, ending in the unbuckled state.(Step 3 must be completed within 50 seconds after the safety beltwarning light turns off.) • After Step 3, the safety belt warning light will be turned on for threeseconds. 4. Within 10 seconds of the light turning on, at a moderate speed, bucklethen unbuckle the safety belt. • This will disable the Belt-Minder feature for that seating position if itis currently enabled. As confirmation, the safety belt warning light willflash 4 times per second for 3 seconds. • This will enable the Belt-Minder feature for that seating position if itis currently disabled. As confirmation, the safety belt warning light willflash 4 times per second for 3 seconds, followed by 3 seconds with thelight off, then followed by the safety belt warning light flashing 4 timesper second for 3 seconds again. Taken from the 2007 Ford Fusion Owner Manual. Driving without seatbelts is unsafe, but is a personal choice. There are likely times when the vehicle will only be driven a very short distance at a very low speed (car show, parking lot, mail box run, etc.) when a seatbelt isn't necessary and the vehicle would like to tell you. Good Luck and Drive Safely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firebuff312 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 Taken from the 2007 Ford Fusion Owner Manual. Driving without seatbelts is unsafe, but is a personal choice. There are likely times when the vehicle will only be driven a very short distance at a very low speed (car show, parking lot, mail box run, etc.) when a seatbelt isn't necessary and the vehicle would like to tell you. Good Luck and Drive Safely. I tried this in a 2010 se and it didnt work...is there a different way to do it in this car??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbf2530 Report post Posted March 15, 2010 I tried this in a 2010 se and it didnt work...is there a different way to do it in this car??? Hi firebuff. :D Not sure about all of the instructions but I can tell you that some of the procedural time limits have changed. The correct instructions to disable the Belt-Minder feature in your Fusion are located in your Owners Manual. Therefore, the quickest and easiest way to get the correct instructions for your 2010 Fusion would be to check your Owners Manual. In this way, you have them right in front of you when you perform the procedure. Good luck. :beerchug: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cinelli Report post Posted March 17, 2010 (edited) From the 2008 Ford Fusion manual (page 133): Reasons given... “Traffic is light” Consider... Nearly 1 of 2 deaths occur in single-vehicle crashes, many when no other vehicles are around. Reason given... “Belts wrinkle my clothes” Consider... Possibly, but a serious crash can do much more than wrinkle your clothes, particularly if you are unbelted. Reason given... “The people I’m with don’t wear belts” Consider... Set the example, teen deaths occur 4 times more often in vehicles with TWO or MORE people. Children and younger brothers/sisters imitate behavior they see. Reason given... “I have an airbag” Consider... Airbags offer greater protection when used with safety belts. Frontal airbags are not designed to inflate in rear and side crashes or rollovers. Reason given... “I’d rather be thrown clear” Consider... Not a good idea. People who are ejected are 40 times more likely to DIE. Safety belts help prevent ejection, WE CAN’T “PICK OUR CRASH”. Warning! Do not sit on top of a buckled safety belt or insert a latchplate into the buckle to avoid the Belt-Minde chime. To do so may adversely affect the performance of the vehicle’s air bag system. Seating and Safety Restraints Here in Brazil, seat belts are obligatory.But not everyone uses them.Since I was a child, my dad told me to use the belt, even in the back seat.When I drive, the passengers may choose: use the belt or walk. Andre Edited March 17, 2010 by cinelli Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoushSEL Report post Posted May 4, 2010 Thanks for all that helped with this post! It worked! And to all those that oppose not using the seatbelt thats your opinon! I use mine if I go on long trips. But 90% of my time spent is going about 5 miles down a country road to a store and back! And I also know just as many times a seatbelt killed someone in a crash as I do when it helped! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby Report post Posted May 4, 2010 But 90% of my time spent is going about 5 miles down a country road to a store and back! Because nobody has ever had an accident on a country road before. Unless you're driving 20 mph the whole way you're being foolish. And I also know just as many times a seatbelt killed someone in a crash as I do when it helped! Absolute, pure BS. If you don't wear one then fine but don't make up stories to try and rationalize your decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoushSEL Report post Posted May 4, 2010 Because nobody has ever had an accident on a country road before. Unless you're driving 20 mph the whole way you're being foolish. Absolute, pure BS. If you don't wear one then fine but don't make up stories to try and rationalize your decision.Look here jk @$$ I'm not making anything up! The speed limit on the road is only 25. And your lucky if you pass another car on the road every other time I travel down it! So much like the others on here! It's my opotion and life! I myself was in a accident where the top of my roof was ripped off! Now what do you think would've happened then if I would have had my belt on and couldn't have ducked down! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby Report post Posted May 4, 2010 I myself was in a accident where the top of my roof was ripped off! Now what do you think would've happened then if I would have had my belt on and couldn't have ducked down! You could have still ducked down - seatbelts don't prevent that. What they do is keep you in the seat when the vehicle rolls over and keeps you from flying around the cabin in the event of a crash. Wearing a seatbelt is at least a thousand times safer than not wearing one. I can't believe you would even debate such a thing. How many rollover crashes have you seen where the occupants were ejected and killed? 99% of those could have been prevented by wearing a seatbelt. Go ask the police and state troopers who see crashes every day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites