2019 SOC Display

[billford]

You can always get a Scangauge. It can tell you SOC and a lot of other things.

 

I have it set up to monitor soc, trans temperature, engine coolant temperature, high voltage battery temperature.

 

SOC varies between 35 and 69 and averages between 40 and 45.

Trans temp is a maximum of 150F on the hottest summer day driving uphill

Coolant temp is a maximum of 210F on the hottest summer day driving uphill

High voltage battery temp is 105F on the hottest day

 

 

 

 

The scangauge won't work out of the box for most things, it has to be programmed. The details are on this forum and on google.

It can also display tire pressures if you don't already have a display.

 

You can probably monitor soc with your phone and a obd2 adapter for a lot cheaper, but the scan gauge can be permanently mounted, set it up once and it works automatically.

Edited August 24, 2019 by billford

[Cobra348]

You can always get a Scangauge. It can tell you SOC and a lot of other things.

 

I have it set up to monitor soc, trans temperature, engine coolant temperature, high voltage battery temperature.

 

SOC varies between 35 and 69 and averages between 40 and 45.

Trans temp is a maximum of 150F on the hottest summer day driving uphill

Coolant temp is a maximum of 210F on the hottest summer day driving uphill

High voltage battery temp is 105F on the hottest day

 

 

 

 

The scangauge won't work out of the box for most things, it has to be programmed. The details are on this forum and on google.

It can also display tire pressures if you don't already have a display.

 

You can probably monitor soc with your phone and a obd2 adapter for a lot cheaper, but the scan gauge can be permanently mounted, set it up once and it works automatically.

If owners want their displays altered because they don't understand things, they are not going to want Scangauge because it's too much like work to set it up. See, that's the big thing ... changes were made to firmware because owners who were ignorant of on/off toggles or the meaning of the display got it removed. In other words, they have no clue about vehicle operation and most likely have not even opened their Owners Manual.

Edited August 24, 2019 by Cobra348

[mdhaeger]

Based on this thread, brought my '19 Hybrid to dealer. Ford Engineering said it isn't on standard hybrids. Only on Energi models. See page 90 in owners' manual.

[One]

This is unreal. "A lot of people complained about the cluster... too complicated....".

Obviously they do not understand a hybrid car and they do not need one. A gasoline standard Fusion/car is just perfect for these guys.

It is a big advantage of Ford. Lot of information is available. You can choose whatever you want to see, LOOK AT THOSE INFO and improve efficiency by driving better and better.

Anyhow I think hybrids are the best choice in US for the next.... many years. Because the gas is so cheap, there is no benefit at all to go full electric. You get the convenience of a standard gasoline car and a huge mpg. Additionally is the great satisfaction of producing energy (and saving the planet :)) each time you slow down or you go downhill. It makes you drive safely and keep calm.

[One]

SOC: there is one in every Fusion Hybrid. 2019 shows the battery status (no percentage is indicated). Arrows are not really necessary. You see when regen braking is active... the spinning ring and you can imagine (wow!) the battery is discharging as long as you drive and depress the accelerator with the ICE off.

 

The plug-in version has a second SOC bigger with lines and indicating the range. It makes sense for plug-in.

[Cobra348]

One - you're preachin' to the choir! I have already steered a couple folks away from Fusion hybrids because of the SOC display and other shortfalls that I've spotted in the '20 models ('19 as well possibly).

 

I keep reminding myself this is the last Ford I'll be owning. <shrug>

Edited November 6, 2019 by Cobra348

[One]

I am not at all a Ford fan, but this 2019 FFH SE is working fine (14k miles) so far and has lot lot lot of features. I payed for extended warranty 6 years 72,000 miles.

And I do not understand at all the complaints about the SOC.

If Ford removed it on 2020 models because of some smart guys complaints, this is very stupid.

PS: Cobra, If you find a reasonable compact spare tire please let us know.

[Cobra348]

I am not at all a Ford fan, but this 2019 FFH SE is working fine (14k miles) so far and has lot lot lot of features. I payed for extended warranty 6 years 72,000 miles.

And I do not understand at all the complaints about the SOC.

If Ford removed it on 2020 models because of some smart guys complaints, this is very stupid.

PS: Cobra, If you find a reasonable compact spare tire please let us know.

1. The SOC display was a good reference on the HVB charge level - even if approximated.

2. On decent road surfaces I've had the ICE not give control to the HVB even when it could (high charge level of HVB, smooth pavement, slight downgrade, etc). Had to toggle the cruise a MPH or two then reset. This was common on both my '15 and '17 FFH cars. That display readily told me if I should toggle or not.

3. It fills a gap in the left screen display.

4. It could be available in the left pane of the MyView display in place of Fuel History (which is in the right screen).

5. As noted above - Energi still has it. WTH is so different other than HVB size? (yeah, model envy! :))

 

This thread has the Ford parts and OTC costs. The tire tread needs to be gotten elsewhere (TireRack or similar). Can run > $500. Cheaper way is hit a salvage yard and get all these parts from a 2013+ gas Fusion.

 

Caveat: This is a 16" compact spare. It's fine for any corner of a FFH with 17" rims. BUT on 18" rims, it should go in the back to prevent steering issues (amongst other things).

[One]

2. On decent road surfaces I've had the ICE not give control to the HVB even when it could (high charge level of HVB, smooth pavement, slight downgrade, etc). Had to toggle the cruise a MPH or two then reset. This was common on both my '15 and '17 FFH cars. That display readily told me if I should toggle or not.

 

....still studying this car. Please help me understand.

Do you mean that sometimes the engine doesn't turn off and you think it should ?

I found out on cruise control the mpg is lower. Speed variation is important if you want to use the battery more.

[mwr]

....still studying this car. Please help me understand.

Do you mean that sometimes the engine doesn't turn off and you think it should ?

I found out on cruise control the mpg is lower. Speed variation is important if you want to use the battery more.

I've had my 2015 FFH for five years and 72K miles, and while I think I know how/why the powertrain operates It's clear that some times I just don't know. So I don't worry about it, but just let it do it's thing which is really quite good.

[daboss54]

On 6/26/2019 at 9:31 PM, hphong2003 said:

Found 2019 FFH no longer shows battery SOC in left dash display.

Is there any way to enable it?

- HP

 

 

On 6/26/2019 at 9:31 PM, hphong2003 said:

Found 2019 FFH no longer shows battery SOC in left dash display.

Is there any way to enable it?

- HP

 

I just purchased a 2019 mkz hybrid and have the same issue did you find a fix?

[Cobra348]

On 11/11/2019 at 11:56 AM, One said:

....still studying this car. Please help me understand.

Do you mean that sometimes the engine doesn't turn off and you think it should ?

I found out on cruise control the mpg is lower. Speed variation is important if you want to use the battery more.

Yes.  There is a 1 mile stretch of 55 MPH road between my place of residence and the city to the south of me.  It is free of most bumps, potholes, etc and downhill enough for the HVB to become the primary motor.  8 out of 10 times it does not and I need to play with the cruise control to get the ICE to relinquish control.  The entire mile (plus some) can be run at 55 on the HVB easily.

 

ADDED:  My prior '15 and '17 could both handle this area on HVB providing charge was high enough.  That's why the SOC is important ... so I (at least) can be sure the HVB should run.

 

7 hours ago, daboss54 said:

 

I just purchased a 2019 mkz hybrid and have the same issue did you find a fix?

Earlier on in this thread is a message post outlining the part numbers for firmware with and without the SOC.  I believe one of the posters then went to Ford or a dealer and was told that we are essentially SOL.

 

Ford just lost a customer.  Even if they come back to producing cars for NA again, they will not have my business.  They essentially told those of us who would like a sedan to go pound it, AND dumbed down a damn fine hybrid to boot.  I'm just a bit p*ssed.

Edited January 6, 2020 by Cobra348

[daboss54]

Any fix?

[daboss54]

This is the last Lincoln hybrid I will get for sure ?

[daboss54]

On 8/13/2019 at 11:03 AM, chekie said:

Thanks for the info on the DRL - indeed I was in park when I tested it. Nobody else is home for a few days so I just propped the phone up and took a video while I drove the car in the driveway and indeed the daytime running lights are working.

 

Just waiting on the battery SOC research from the dealer - I am surprised more people have not complained about this since I have seen the problem in 2 of the 3 cars I tested. As long as it gets corrected I am fine - even if it takes awhile to fix. I would be appalled if they dropped the feature (in the middle of the model year to boot) so that has me worried. But the battery SOC is in the just-released 2020 FFH manual as well as the 2019 manual so I'm hopeful this is just a temporary problem.

Did you find the fix?

[hphong2003]

No. ended up with Scanguage solution.

[scn101]

On 8/14/2019 at 6:22 PM, chekie said:

Cobra's response came as I was typing and I hope he is right! I have checked multiple 2019 FFH Titaniums at my dealer and found some had the SOC / ability to toggle and some did not. I went into the engineering mode and noticed:

 

The "PartNo" is KS7T-JE with "S/W" KS7T-HE on the cars with the missing SOC

 

The "PartNo" is KS7T-JD with "S/W" KS7T-HD on the car that does have the SOC.

 

I don't know if those identifiers are the actual version numbers but they indicate the software (and hardware?) is newer in the cars with the issue. I sincerely hope S/W KS7T-HF (or whatever if there's a newer one coming) fixes the issue - at least on the 2019s!

 

I traded in my 2014 FFH for a 2019 MKZ HEV and found that I too no longer have the SOC battery display.  I've researched this a lot and found that early 2019 builds had the SOC display, later 2019 builds do not.  I compared the "as built" data for two VINs, and early and a later 2019 build, with and without the SOC display.  Comparing each module the only differences in as built data between the two was in modules that contain the VIN (as expected).  So I'm concluding that this is not simply something that can be enabled using ForScan.  So, as @chekie pointed out, there's a newer software load (-JE) in a module that took away the SOC display.  My guess is that this may be the IPC module.

 

@chekie Do you know what module the software PartNo belonged to?  Was it the IPC or another module?

 

My dealer contacted Lincoln but has had no luck.  Personally I'm quite bummed at the elimination of a useful feature especially since both my owner's manual and quick reference guide clearly show the SOC display.  I'm wondering if this is something where a lawsuit would help?  File in small claims court as an irritant to Ford to provide the SOC display once again.  I.E. false or misleading information since the feature is said to be in the owner's manual.  If there are any law types on this board, let us know your thoughts!

[JClintB]

I bought a 19 Fusion SE Hybrid a few weeks ago, the battery display is on the left side right beside the fuel gauge display,  it does not change as any of the other left side displays are changed , it is always there unless I turn it off in settings,  as others have stated.