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[MXGOLF]

I will do a scathing review of my FFH. 33 mpg is BS and there is nothing I can do. I should sell the car. Unfortunately no lemon law for fuel mileage. :angry22:

[neod192]

I will do a scathing review of my FFH. 33 mpg is BS and there is nothing I can do. I should sell the car. Unfortunately no lemon law for fuel mileage. :angry22:

Do you have the ping-pong/clicking issue? Could you use that on your advantage?

[MXGOLF]

What's the ping-pong clicking issue?

[neod192]

What's the ping-pong clicking issue?

http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/6180-cracking-noise/

[hybridbear]

I will do a scathing review of my FFH. 33 mpg is BS and there is nothing I can do. I should sell the car. Unfortunately no lemon law for fuel mileage. :angry22:

You need to figure out what the problem is. Leaving a negative review on Edmunds doesn't do that. You need to be on your dealer about that and have them check the hybrid battery. Other users with poor mileage seem to be getting different performance out of their hybrid battery than others. It could be that you have a bad battery and that is causing your low mileage by making the ICE run more than it should.

 

What is your Lifetime Summary of EV miles compared to the odometer. Most of us with higher MPG numbers are seeing more than half our miles in EV, even more if mostly city driving. If you have less than that it could indicate a battery problem

[MXGOLF]

I had it in for a 3000 mile oil change and to check out the poor mileage. They said everything checked out. :( I too have thought I got bad batteries but Ford won't admit anything or do anything. Most people get 40+ mpg from day one but not mine. I know how to drive it to get good mileage and it won't get any better mileage. Is there some test that would prove the batteries are not up to snuff? I know they plug the car into there computer and that's what supposedly tells them if anything is wrong. I am totally stumped on this one.

Edited May 14, 2013 by MXGOLF

[hybridbear]

I had it in for a 3000 mile oil change and to check out the poor mileage. They said everything checked out. :( I too have thought I got bad batteries but Ford won't admit anything or do anything. Most people get 40+ mpg from day one but not mine. I know how to drive it to get good mileage and it won't get any better mileage. Is there some test that would prove the batteries are not up to snuff? I know they plug the car into there computer and that's what supposedly tells them if anything is wrong. I am totally stumped on this one.

I imagine that Ford has a way to test the batteries. The hard part might be convincing them to do it. That's why I started the thread about the proportion of EV miles. It will be interesting to see if your proportion of EV miles is significantly lower than other users with similar driving patterns. If it is then that might be something you can bring up with your dealer and that they can use to call the Ford Dealer Hotline for assistance

[Aquineas]

I can understand the motivation for the counter-reviews, but honestly, I also understand the position of acdii, MXGOLF, and others. After all, put yourself in their position where you'd just put down 30-36 large on a car and was getting 15-30 percent lower mileage than advertised? If some of the owners hadn't had previous experience with a hybrid, I'd be more apt to dismiss the claims as driver error rather than something mechanical. I believe however that there have likely been some mechanical issues for at least some of the cars.

 

Respectfully and most certainly non-antagonistically, I don't think it's necessarily the responsibility of MXGOLF and others to get to the problem of their lower-than-normal fuel mileage. Ford should be the ones trying to get to the bottom of the problem with those vehicles; whether it's with a driver education program or investigation/inspection of the mechanicals. Actually, Ford, if you're listening, I have an idea. Why not begin development of a software program that would perform a detailed analysis of the OBD data and potentially highlight issues which might be affecting mileage, whether they be driving patterns, temperature patterns, or even mechanical problems. You could do two versions, one that the dealer sees (that the public doesn't see) that has a lot more diagnostic data, and one that you could distribute to the public that people who were the tinkering type could download and see on their own. I'd call it, "MyFordCoach" :-).

Edited May 14, 2013 by Aquineas

[rjent]

Golf, I am going to be in Oregon in Oct. We are spending 2 weeks in Depoe Bay. I intend to do a lot of driving in the area (we love Oregon), and i will report back here as to how my milage is. It should be an interesting test. If you have any routes that you can suggest so we can get similar results, by all means post them here or PM me.

I had it in for a 3000 mile oil change and to check out the poor mileage. They said everything checked out. :( I too have thought I got bad batteries but Ford won't admit anything or do anything. Most people get 40+ mpg from day one but not mine. I know how to drive it to get good mileage and it won't get any better mileage. Is there some test that would prove the batteries are not up to snuff? I know they plug the car into there computer and that's what supposedly tells them if anything is wrong. I am totally stumped on this one.

[acdii]

I can understand the motivation for the counter-reviews, but honestly, I also understand the position of acdii, MXGOLF, and others. After all, put yourself in their position where you'd just put down 30-36 large on a car and was getting 15-30 percent lower mileage than advertised? If some of the owners hadn't had previous experience with a hybrid, I'd be more apt to dismiss the claims as driver error rather than something mechanical. I believe however that there have likely been some mechanical issues for at least some of the cars.

 

Respectfully and most certainly non-antagonistically, I don't think it's necessarily the responsibility of MXGOLF and others to get to the problem of their lower-than-normal fuel mileage. Ford should be the ones trying to get to the bottom of the problem with those vehicles; whether it's with a driver education program or investigation/inspection of the mechanicals. Actually, Ford, if you're listening, I have an idea. Why not begin development of a software program that would perform a detailed analysis of the OBD data and potentially highlight issues which might be affecting mileage, whether they be driving patterns, temperature patterns, or even mechanical problems. You could do two versions, one that the dealer sees (that the public doesn't see) that has a lot more diagnostic data, and one that you could distribute to the public that people who were the tinkering type could download and see on their own. I'd call it, "MyFordCoach" :-).

What would be even better is a recorder like those used by Progressive to record the driving patterns of the drivers. I mean it wasnt like I wasnt trying to get the most out of it, but try explaining that to some person sitting behind her desk touting the company line.

 

I mean, seriously, I am getting almost 21 MPG in a 365 HP twin turbo charged brick rated at 18 MPG in the same driving I do with my Fusions. I would say thats some pretty good returns, and getting above EPA city in the 2010 as well. If I do get another one, the true test will come forth, if I wind up with the same results, well no one to blame but me, but if I return results like others here do, then that is proof positive there WAS an issue. We shall see someday.

 

I do like that idea a lot.

[mokee]

Actually, Ford, if you're listening, I have an idea. Why not begin development of a software program that would perform a detailed analysis of the OBD data and potentially highlight issues which might be affecting mileage, whether they be driving patterns, temperature patterns, or even mechanical problems. You could do two versions, one that the dealer sees (that the public doesn't see) that has a lot more diagnostic data, and one that you could distribute to the public that people who were the tinkering type could download and see on their own. I'd call it, "MyFordCoach" :-).

 

X2 on this idea! Good one Aquineas....I hope Ford does pick up on this one.

[MXGOLF]

I fully agree Ford should be trying there best to figure out the problem instead of blaming it on the drivers. Especially since every thing is so electronically run now days. I did got through a driving seminar with my car and a guy from the dealer and he and I agreed we were driving the same and couldn't figure out why it would be so low on the mpg. He did however say the cold weather and crappy Oregon gas as possible problems. But my car has been parked in the garage for over a month and the weather has been in the upper 70's to middle 80's and it hasn't made much of a difference 2-3 mpg. I was wondering if all the guys that are getting good mileage, if there driving is all flat and down hill driving? Mine doesn't seem to fully recharge the batteries quick enough. I just don't know. Thanks for all your support and help. I really do love my car but it's super frustrating when most are getting 40+ MPG.

 

Thanks,

[aaronj1159]

I was wondering if all the guys that are getting good mileage, if there driving is all flat and down hill driving? Mine doesn't seem to fully recharge the batteries quick enough. I just don't know.

My average lately is around 43-45 MPG and I do plenty of hill driving. Driving to work is about a 51 MPG commute, the return trip is 38 MPG at best. This is 80% interstate speeds (65-68 MPH). There is definitely a difference in the vehicle because it's not like I'm driving much differently than I used to in my Jetta. In fact, above the EV threshold I usually just keep the car in ECO Cruise mode.

[MXGOLF]

Ok my stats so far with 3000 miles is 1284.4 EV miles and 307.3 Regen miles. That's about 50%. :(

rjent, September and October is usually the best time for the Oregon Coast. It's not as windy then as it can be during the spring or summer. Please PM me after your trip.

[rjent]

Ok my stats so far with 3000 miles is 1284.4 EV miles and 307.3 Regen miles. That's about 50%. :(

rjent, September and October is usually the best time for the Oregon Coast. It's not as windy then as it can be during the spring or summer. Please PM me after your trip.

Will do, but preferably, without giving away your location, what routes do you usually drive? It is I5 or I84 predominately, or is it more of the back twisties that are so beautiful and prevalent in Oregon. We plan on driving to Seattle while we are there. I would be more than happy to drive one of your "routes" that you are struggling with, just to give you a comparison and then let me post back here my results. I have only about 600 miles on now and mostly local and short trips. The Interstate driving I have done so far returns over 40, but I am still perfecting my technique. I am going to ask some questions in the flat vs. hilly threads that have been discussed here. I am heading for California in about a month, it is about 900 miles one way, and I intend to stay on the back roads like US 60 and Az 260 and keep her at 65 to maximize the batter/hybrid synergy. I do need more insight into how to maximize hilly terrain as that is 90 percent of my driving.

 

Anyway blah blah, If you would rather just PM me I understand. I also, as an open invitation, I welcome you to meet up with my wife and I and maybe we can do some tandem driving for some real world comparisons.

 

Let me know :)

[dalesky]

For more than two weeks now, Fynack's review of the FFH is the first one that shows on Edmunds' site. We need more owners from here to write their honest review so that his is not the first one potential buyers see.

http://www.edmunds.com/ford/fusion-hybrid/2013/consumer-reviews.html?sub=sedan

Just did. Thanks for the link and suggestion

[acdii]

oh no :baby: