Hybrider Report post Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) I am personally very proud to be driving a hybrid car, and I want to advertise it to others in the hopes that they too will want to get a hybrid, especially now that hybrids can be so sharp-looking, which the FFHs are. In fact, I even embellished my "HYBRID" emblems on the doors by adding the same "SE" emblem that is on the trunk lid below each "HYBRID" emblem on the doors, because I am also proud that I have the SE version, which even though I know originally probably stood for something else, but I like to think it stands for "Sport Edition". Having the extra chrome from the "SE" emblem by the "HYBRID" emblem also makes it stand out even more. :) Edited July 29, 2014 by Hybrider 2 corncobs and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted July 29, 2014 I believe that the HVB is automatically isolated by the car in the event of a crash to protect first responders. Once the vehicle is removed from the crash site the dealer or wrecking yard is responsible for following proper procedure for storing the HVB. The issue with the Volt was that someone was not following the proper procedure outlined by GM to prevent fires.Then again if there are no emblems on the outside and the hood or trunk isn't opened, then no one would know it's a hybrid. My only concern would be if the pack did get damaged in some way and no one knew it was a hybrid until they started to work on it, that the car could be indoors when the pack gives up the ghost. That's my only concern. Sometimes a body shop could have an opening right away and have the car dropped off inside. 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted July 29, 2014 Pretty soon the HYBRID badges will go the way of the dodo just like the "Fuel Injection", "ABS Brakes", "Traction Control", "V6", V8, etc. badging. :) 3 GrySql, hybridbear and corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted July 30, 2014 Pretty soon the HYBRID badges will go the way of the dodo just like the "Fuel Injection", "ABS Brakes", "Traction Control", "V6", V8, etc. badging. :)It would appear the MKZ is an example of this already happening. I was not aware that it has no hybrid specific badging until the posts in this thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted July 30, 2014 It is almost impossible to see the Hybrid label on our cars unless you are looking for it, certainly not while the car is driving down the road.There are now so many different models of Fusion it takes another Fusion owner to recognize the difference.My rental Fusion has the twin tailpipes of a Titanium but is an SE 1.6EB. Boy. it is con-fusioning.... The Prius is designed to be noticed, the Camry/Avalon/Honda/Fusion and others are all the same car as the gas models and hard to spot as hybrids. The various Fire Departments should approach all car fires cautiously. There are so many variants that any old fashioned deployments are not wise.I spent 30 years in a major fire department and the training is very available and advanced these days, incidents are being standardized. 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted July 30, 2014 My rental Fusion has the twin tailpipes of a Titanium but is an SE 1.6EB. Boy. it is con-fusioning.... Very interesting! So far we always said that the twin tailpipes are engine not trim specific. Could it be that Ford changed their mind? Sounds /looks like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted July 30, 2014 The Prius is designed to be noticed, the Camry/Avalon/Honda/Fusion and others are all the same car as the gas models and hard to spot as hybrids. Actually, the Prius is so UGLY it can't help but be noticed! ;) 3 acdii, Wingmn and corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted July 30, 2014 It is almost impossible to see the Hybrid label on our cars unless you are looking for it, certainly not while the car is driving down the road.There are now so many different models of Fusion it takes another Fusion owner to recognize the difference.My rental Fusion has the twin tailpipes of a Titanium but is an SE 1.6EB. Boy. it is con-fusioning....I think it's an SE 2.0 Ecoboost then. That seems to be a popular option around here. Almost half of the Fusions I see have the dual exhaust but they don't have Titanium wheels so they must be SE models with the optional 2.0 Ecoboost engine. The other common Fusion I see is the most basic SE model with no additional options, but I think a lot of those are rental cars. It seems that the 1.6 Ecoboost sells well too. You can tell the Fusion engine type easily from behind:If the right side of trunk says nothing then it's an S model with the 2.5L 4 cylIf the right side says SE and nothing else then it has the 2.5L 4 cylIf the right side says SE and Ecoboost but there's only a single exhaust pipe then it's the 1.6L EcoboostIf the right side says SE & Ecoboost & the car has dual exhaust then it's the 2.0L EcoboostIf the right side says Titanium then it has the 2.0L Ecoboost & dual exhaustIf the right side says HYBRID then it's a 2.0L hybridIf the right side says ENERGI then it's a 2.0L plug-in hybrid 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted July 30, 2014 I think it's an SE 2.0 Ecoboost then.If the right side says SE & Ecoboost & the car has dual exhaust then it's the 2.0L Ecoboost Yeah, what does the Enterprise guy know, me either...Thanks for that list.I looked it up on Etis and you are correct, it is a 2.0 EB and because it is I am very glad I bought the hybrid.Frankly, the 2.0EB's performance is disappointing, I floored it a few times to get up to speed on the freeway and it was not awe inspiring at all.It was okay but from all the hype it was not exciting at all, the FFH seems so much more complete and versatile.This rental is just another car with a 4 cylinder engine struggling to get 30 mpg's. I am glad to have had this side by side comparison, gas vs hybrid, to me the FFH is the better car (with a smaller trunk and no spare tire). 3 acdii, hybridbear and corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted July 30, 2014 You can tell the Fusion engine type easily from behind:If the right side of trunk says nothing then it's an S model with the 2.5L 4 cyl With the exception of rebels that remove the hybrid emblem. Frankly, the 2.0EB's performance is disappointing, I floored it a few times to get up to speed on the freeway and it was not awe inspiring at all.This rental is just another car with a 4 cylinder engine struggling to get 30 mpg's.That is exactly what Consumer Reports had to say about the Ecoboost engines in the Fusion. Their test data showed that the Ecoboost engines are slower and thirstier than the normally aspirated engines from Honda and Nissan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr7driver Report post Posted July 30, 2014 You can tell the Fusion engine type easily from behind:If the right side of trunk says nothing then it's an S model with the 2.5L 4 cylIf the right side says SE and nothing else then it has the 2.5L 4 cylIf the right side says SE and Ecoboost but there's only a single exhaust pipe then it's the 1.6L EcoboostIf the right side says SE & Ecoboost & the car has dual exhaust then it's the 2.0L EcoboostIf the right side says Titanium then it has the 2.0L Ecoboost & dual exhaustIf the right side says HYBRID then it's a 2.0L hybridIf the right side says ENERGI then it's a 2.0L plug-in hybrid This makes my brain hurt. 2 hybridbear and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted August 29, 2014 I successfully removed the hybrid emblems today and I was surprised how easily they came off. After applying only a little bit of heat from the wife's hair dryer the dental floss cut through the adhesive like it was butter. Even before heating I could wiggle the plastic lettering quite easily. Perhaps that is related to the car being new and the adhesive may not have been fully cured. Now that my "Fusion S Hybrid" has the same emblems as the gas "Fusion S" I'm curious if there are other visible external differences that would distinguish the hybrid from the gas Fusion. Anyone know? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted August 29, 2014 I successfully removed the hybrid emblems today and I was surprised how easily they came off. After applying only a little bit of heat from the wife's hair dryer the dental floss cut through the adhesive like it was butter. Even before heating I could wiggle the plastic lettering quite easily. Perhaps that is related to the car being new and the adhesive may not have been fully cured. Now that my "Fusion S Hybrid" has the same emblems as the gas "Fusion S" I'm curious if there are other visible external differences that would distinguish the hybrid from the gas Fusion. Anyone know?Your rims. Can you post some pics of your car? Then we could see other visual cues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted August 29, 2014 Comparing the pictures on the Ford website, it looks like the only way to distinguish a Fusion Hybrid S from the Fusion S are the badges and wheels. There are more differences between the S and the SE/Titanium than there are between the Hybrid and Non-Hybrid models. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted August 29, 2014 The gas S has different side view mirrors (no turn signals) and different lower body mouldings. I'm not sure about the FFH S, that's why I keep asking for pictures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lolder Report post Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) I'm proud of my hybrid emblem on my 2010. If it wasn't there, I would try to add one. It's unobtrusive. If you live in areas where you think it would be vandalized because it's a hybrid, that's sad. Comparing vandalizing a Hummer to vandalizing a Ford Hybrid is an apples/oranges comparison.If you have bought a hybrid, like it or not, you are seen as probably making a political statement about anthropological global warming. Actually, the economic numbers show you are smarter for choosing a car that will be cheaper to run after only a few years. If you factor the average 14 year life of vehicles, it almost completely pays for itself.I'm really tired of people saying the Prius is "ugly". The Prius is designed to have the lowest drag co-efficient, Cd, of a production car and they hit the bulls-eye. Look at all the other cars. They are all slowly approaching the aerodynamic shape Prius has had for 5 years with the Gen III alone. At highway speeds, air drag is half the load.The County is just finishing resurfacing a 55 mph 4 lane divided highway whose surface had become very noisy due to erosion of the surface The other day one lane had been resurfaced with a very smooth quiet surface and the other had not. The difference in lane mpg was 4, in keeping with other observations. The noisy one was 46 and the quiet, 50. This is one of the many small effects on mileage. Edited August 30, 2014 by lolder 2 hybridbear and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted August 30, 2014 The gas S has different side view mirrors (no turn signals) and different lower body mouldings. I'm not sure about the FFH S, that's why I keep asking for pictures. I'll try to get some pictures posted soon (it has been raining a lot the last few days). Yes, the FFH S has different side view mirrors and the lower half of the side view mirror is black as are the rocker panels. I think the FFH S looks nearly identical to a gas Fusion S with the exception of the wheels which was mentioned earlier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) I'm proud of my hybrid emblem on my 2010. If it wasn't there, I would try to add one. It's unobtrusive. If you live in areas where you think it would be vandalized because it's a hybrid, that's sad. Comparing vandalizing a Hummer to vandalizing a Ford Hybrid is an apples/oranges comparison.If you have bought a hybrid, like it or not, you are seen as probably making a political statement about anthropological global warming. Actually, the economic numbers show you are smarter for choosing a car that will be cheaper to run after only a few years. As I indicated in my opening post I mean no offense nor do I think any less of anyone that likes the hybrid emblems. I simply prefer that my car make as little statement as possible. For the same reasons I requested that my dealer not apply their dealership decal. You zeroed in on my main reason for purchasing a FFH. For me it is mainly an economic issue in addition to the very impressive technology that is incorporated in this car. Edited August 31, 2014 by Texasota 2 hybridbear and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted August 30, 2014 Here are some photos of my 2015 Fusion S Hybrid. The only exterior modifications I have made is the removal of the hybrid emblems and I had the dearership install splash guards. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted August 30, 2014 Here are some photos of my 2015 Fusion S Hybrid. The only exterior modifications I have made is the removal of the hybrid emblems and I had the dearership install splash guards. Not a bug on it yet! Nice! I have 'mud flaps' too, they work well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted August 31, 2014 (edited) So, the differences compared to an FFH SE are:mirrors on the FFH S don't have turn signals,lower body moulding is black instead of paint colorThe only difference of the FFH S compared to the Fusion S is:FFH S has the special hybrid 17-inch rims instead of the 16-inch steel wheels with wheel covers that come on the gas Fusion S Edited August 31, 2014 by hybridbear 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffo65 Report post Posted August 31, 2014 No fog lights and no chrome trim on lower grill Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted August 31, 2014 No fog lights and no chrome trim on lower grill I think fog lights are optional on the SE (requires either the Appearance Package or the Luxury Package) and standard on the Titanium. I had not previously noticed the absence of chrome trim on the lower grill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrider Report post Posted August 31, 2014 ...The only difference of the FFH S compared to the Fusion S is:FFH S has the special hybrid 17-inch rims instead of the 15-inch steel wheels with wheel covers that come on the gas Fusion S The 2013 and 2014 gas Fusion S came with 16-inch steel wheels with wheel covers, and the 2015 gas Fusion S comes with 16-inch "Alloy" wheels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrider Report post Posted August 31, 2014 Here are some photos of my 2015 Fusion S Hybrid. The only exterior modifications I have made is the removal of the hybrid emblems and I had the dearership install splash guards. I'm wondering why you didn't remove the "Fusion" symbol too, and then people just might think it is a Ford Aston Martin. j/k :skateboard: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites