dalesky Report post Posted February 1, 2014 Today, on a drive home that usually gives me 46MPG I GOT 52! Lots of traffic and no hypermiling. Drove about 13 miles. This car continues to amaze me. 4 hybridbear, Ted Swing, acdii and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 3, 2014 Here is a great example of how cold affects this car. Temps this morning were -21 to -9 from my house to work. I dropped my wife off a little closer to her office by going through the entire parking lot so the miles aren't identical, but both are the exact same trip. This was from a warmer day roughly 30*-40*. This morning it would not go in to EV except when I was slowing to my second stop. What I noticed is the regen braking was very light, almost non-existent. After about 20 miles it finally started to EV, but for half what it normally would do. Keep in mind this is at 55 MPH and I have both grills covered too. This looks like the battery does not like being cold at all. My car was frosted inside, and there was ice in my Husky liners, and even driving 34 miles with the heat going at 74* I still had frosty windows. So what I got from this, is, when really cold soaked at sub-zero temps, battery management is reduced to bare minimum, so there is less braking regen, and far less EV until the batteries warm up, and in some cases, they will never warm up enough to go full EV. Makes it interesting for sure, my first turn is after 4 miles, and the car wasn't slowing down on regen, so POOF there goes the brake score! Even so this car is doing so much better than the first one considering how FrAkinG cold it is! I would hate to see how low that one would have been in this winter. 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted February 3, 2014 Interesting it wasn't as cold by me and I have mine in the garage so I'm sure that will help with the HVB temps but as long I don't turn on my climate the car goes into EV mode almost at the same spot as in warmer weather. What could also help me is the fact that I'm driving thru the neighborhood at 25 MPH; 4 Stop signs and 2 turns where I need to slow down. Maybe that helps to get the HVB up to temp quicker. Anyway I agree this car doesn't like the cold but she is a lady so not really surprising ;) Btw I got 40.4 MPG this and I don't have my grill covered yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 4, 2014 Interesting it wasn't as cold by me and I have mine in the garage so I'm sure that will help with the HVB temps but as long I don't turn on my climate the car goes into EV mode almost at the same spot as in warmer weather. What could also help me is the fact that I'm driving thru the neighborhood at 25 MPH; 4 Stop signs and 2 turns where I need to slow down. Maybe that helps to get the HVB up to temp quicker. Anyway I agree this car doesn't like the cold but she is a lady so not really surprising ;) Btw I got 40.4 MPG this and I don't have my grill covered yet.Did you want one? I have a spare sitting at home collecting dust, just needs the holes drilled to attach it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted February 4, 2014 Did you want one? I have a spare sitting at home collecting dust, just needs the holes drilled to attach it. Sure I take it. :) PM sent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted February 8, 2014 Something we already know but it makes "headlines" cold temps hurt your MPG Check out this article from USA TODAY: Cold hurts mpg a lot http://usat.ly/1fPPeED 3 keybman, hybridbear and ptjones reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted November 7, 2014 Well it is that time of the year again folks, cold weather is coming, hit 29* this morning. So to ward off the OMG my mile tanked, time to revive this thread. I did my baseline drives this week in 40* and under temps, today being the coldest. I had to discount yesterdays reading due to a heavy tailwind. 48 MPG is unrealistic, and quite rare to see around here when it is 38*. The return trip yesterday was 38 MPG going into the wind. So on Tuesday, I saw 44 MPG or so, today about the same, so 29*-40* calling it about 43 MPG without grill covers. Going to be putting foam in the grill this weekend, and will see what it's like next week to see what MPG improvements are. The car has about a 2-2 1/2 mile warm up going 55MPH before it goes to EV mode where the blue box appears on Empower. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted November 8, 2014 Since snow is expected Monday / Tuesday I winterized the LIR today. Put the snow shows and grill cover back on. I also gave her a bath and a quick detailing job. Now that I have the window tint she looks even sharper with the black rims. 2 acdii and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted November 10, 2014 I stuffed my grill today with 1/2" pipe foam. Fitss in there pretty good, doesn't look as good as the grill cover did, but was quick and easy. (that and I dont know where I put the one I made) 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted November 10, 2014 doesn't look as good as the grill cover did, but was quick and easy. (that and I dont know where I put the one I made)Didn't you send it to HB? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted November 10, 2014 I made 3 of them, gave one to HB, and one to CC, I took it off mine last spring, but dont remember where I put it to keep it "safe". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lolder Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Cleaners came yesterday to clean the house windows. When we tilted up a dual reclining chair to get at the windows, there was my favorite Phillips screwdriver missing for several months. I told him I was glad to see him but he was upset that i had bought two new ones to replace him. I'll have to use him a lot for a while to sooth him. It's also amazing how long some potato chip crumbs stay crisp. i hope you find your cover soon. 4 hybridbear, acdii, jeff_h and 1 other reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted November 10, 2014 With our blizzard coming today I also put my foam back in the grille last night. Opposite of acdii, I think the foam looks less conspicuous than the plexiglass grille cover and I prefer it for that reason. I reused all my foam pieces from last year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted November 10, 2014 Cleaners came yesterday to clean the house windows. When we tilted up a dual reclining chair to get at the windows, there was my favorite Phillips screwdriver missing for several months. I told him I was glad to see him but he was upset that i had bought two new ones to replace him. I'll have to use him a lot for a while to sooth him. It's also amazing how long some potato chip crumbs stay crisp. i hope you find your cover soon.Nice shot tea out my nose. Great post! :) 3 dalesky, jeff_h and hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Well, this is exciting. Temp is 38* this morning, very little wind to affect readings. Heater and defrost on too. Grill packed with pipe foam. 1 jeff_h reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
md13ffhguy Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Got any good pics with the foam in place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptjones Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Installed 450W FORD ICE Block Heater and it Heats up ICE up +65*F in two hours with 125W Oil Pan Heater. It is probably worth 5mpg on shorter trips.Does anyone have Factory installed ICE Heater? :) Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Got any good pics with the foam in place? 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Well, this is exciting. Temp is 38* this morning, very little wind to affect readings. Heater and defrost on too. Grill packed with pipe foam. I had you beat by around 5MPG ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalesky Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Nice shot tea out my nose. Great post! :)Years ago when working I thought I had lost a bracelet, and suspected the house cleaner. A few months went by, and after moving a chair I found it on the carpet. My bad! Glad I didn't say anything to the person i suspected. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted November 11, 2014 Got any good pics with the foam in place?http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/8364-stuffed-foam-in-grill-mpg-update/?p=76016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aschulz261 Report post Posted November 11, 2014 I feel for all of you that live in the cold parts f the country, but I don't regret leaving it behind for a second. My brother just bought a 2015 FFH SE and was questioning the logic of the block heater. Since mine has obviously never been used, I couldn't give him any advice on whether it's a useful item to use in the cold or not. Can any of you provide some insight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted November 12, 2014 Trip home sucked gas The wind kicked up quite a bit and I drove head long into it, managed only 38 MPG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted November 12, 2014 Trip home sucked gas The wind kicked up quite a bit and I drove head long into it, managed only 38 MPG.You aren't kidding barely mad me the 40 on the way home. I have a feeling this winter season is going to be interesting to say the least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
md13ffhguy Report post Posted November 12, 2014 Got any good pics with the foam in place?Thanks! Looks like a trip to Home Depot and a project for this weekend! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites