2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid Turbo

[Sleddog]

Actually... I think we should get some KERS battery packs from an F1 car. Now that would be a mod I would like to try. But they won't last to long. They cook 'em for high performance, and they don't last more then 1 race. Plus they're hand built.

 

Ferrari does have a new LaFerrari supercar that produces 963 hp and uses a KERS system. Ferrari says it can charge the battery even under full braking that activates ABS. The engine can also charge the battery directly, just as mainstream cars do through their alternators. The electric motor outputs 120 kW or 163 hp on top of the engine’s 800 hp. Top speed is 217 mph or 350 kph.

 

Now there's a hybrid that goes fast but still probably only get 15 miles to the gallon. Cost 1.3 million. It is a Ferrari after all.

[Eddie Sessum]

I think a turbo on the car would be more damage to the CVT than the engine. Engine is cheap, replacement is $1700 full retail.

 

CVT... $5000... So yea, im not touching it.

[Eddie Sessum]

Actually... I think we should get some KERS battery packs from an F1 car. Now that would be a mod I would like to try. But they won't last to long. They cook 'em for high performance, and they don't last more then 1 race. Plus they're hand built.

 

Ferrari does have a new LaFerrari supercar that produces 963 hp and uses a KERS system. Ferrari says it can charge the battery even under full braking that activates ABS. The engine can also charge the battery directly, just as mainstream cars do through their alternators. The electric motor outputs 120 kW or 163 hp on top of the engine’s 800 hp. Top speed is 217 mph or 350 kph.

 

Now there's a hybrid that goes fast but still probably only get 15 miles to the gallon. Cost 1.3 million. It is a Ferrari after all.

The tesla can stop with ABS our little electric motor can only give us so much "drag" as I call it where it loads up like a huge alternator to charge the battery. the eCVT may also come into play on this one if it can only handle forcing so much back into the elec engine (i dont know how much it can handle going in the other direction)

[Sleddog]

I'm not sure either. But it seems to be the limiting factor when applying power, in either direction. But I find my hybrid has plenty of power. I would like a larger battery, though.

Edited October 11, 2013 by Sleddog

[ElectricFan69]

I'm not sure either. But it seems to be the limiting factor when applying power, in either direction. But I find my hybrid has plenty of power. I would like a larger battery, though.

 

One item that would present efficiency opportunity is turbo compounding - that would use the 'turbo' to run an add-on generator. This has been done in the past (thing WW2-era piston engine aircraft; google 'turbo compounding) and would have opportunity for improved thermal efficiency. The 'big idea' of the Atkinson cycle is that during low load you reduce pumping losses and improve thermal efficiency by having asymmetric compression and expansion geometry. With pressurized manifold, it becomes a 'Miller cycle' (Like 90's era Mazda). But the idea is to have as much energy as possible extracted from the combustion process and turned into useful work. The current motor peaks in the high 30's. Diesels go into the 40's. Turbo compounding might be able to get into the same area. The big problem is cost - current fuel prices don't provide sufficient payback.

 

Volvo is using a concept like that to reduce turbo lag - but a hybrid powertrain would present inherent energy efficiency advantages as MG1/MG2 don't care where the juice is coming from. So the idea would be to have 'MG3' driving/driven by the turbo, able to provide high-speed-cruise efficiency improvements. It would be WAY cool to have the 50 + MPG with 80 MPH cruise...

[Eddie Sessum]

With the above I think the car should go sealed grill for the ICE to keep it up to temp. It would still have fans and such that can pull from under the car if needed. And maybe supliment cabin heat too.