acdii Report post Posted February 6, 2013 Why not do the lawsuit yourself :). Then you can cash in and maybe get a free car out of it.Giving it HIGh consideration. As far as I am concerned, Ford owes me the difference between a regular SE and the hybrid, cause it sure as hell isnt a hybrid, not at the kind of mileage I am getting. I am so completely fed up that I parked it tonight, outside, in the car port and brought our 2010 in. It can sit there and rot for all I care. If someone stole it I could care less, they can friggin have it. If it got hit by a plow, I could care less. In fact I am going to look for a huge Lemon to stick on the roof and park it by the road with writing on the windows in big letters, DONT BUY THE HYPE 35 mpg IS NOT 47 mpg The banners below say it all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 8, 2013 Well the dealer could not do a deal after all. They pulled up a Ti with the ACC, Blis and sunroof, and came back with a price $5 more than I pay now. So basically paying more for a lesser car. So now going to just keep hitting Ford CS, going to fill her mail box until I get results. Fix or Replace Daily is my new motto. Going to hit the new agencies, Blogs, where ever I can until I get the car fixed or replaced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B25Nut Report post Posted February 8, 2013 "Going to hit the new agencies, Blogs, where ever I can." There's someplace else you haven't posted? I think you turned down a good deal that would have gotten you past all this and improved your blood pressure. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_h Report post Posted February 8, 2013 Fix or Replace Daily is my new motto. Going to hit the new agencies, Blogs, where ever I can until I get the car fixed or replaced. You said the car doesn't heat up, would be a shame if it were a faulty $15 thermostat... though there's now probably several other sensors now that tell it when to open/close and how much, etc. Engine Coolant ThermostatBrand: MotorcraftPart Number: 8575(RT-1223)Price: $15.46 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 8, 2013 If the deal was on one that had the same options as the Hybrid, well I would have given it very serious thought, but I would lose the Nav and park assist(dont need). There was a Ruby Red in the llist with nav, sunroof, Blis, ACC and 19" wheels, and if the deal was on that car, I may have taken it. But it was on a black one with sunroof, ACC and Blis, no 19" wheels(didnt care for them anyway), no Nav. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted February 8, 2013 If the deal was on one that had the same options as the Hybrid, well I would have given it very serious thought,Why not park it in front of the Dealership everyday with a big lemon on the roof and whitewashed messages on the windows explaining your issue?Then email the CS Zone manager with pictures and do that 10 times a day.You can drive the 2009 Lincoln MKS or the Marquis until they cry 'uncle'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 8, 2013 Wouldnt be fair to the dealer. I have nothing against the dealer, this is all on Ford. Now, there was a Ruby Red Ti with the options I want, but has 19" wheels, if they deal on that one for the $5 more a month, then done deal, so pulling some numbers together, found the invoice pricing on it, and will forward it off for one more shot and see if they deal. If they can find one without the 19" wheels I would even go for that, but for the extra money I want the Nav. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted February 8, 2013 According to the other FF Forums, the FF Ti's are getting 17-24mpg, how does that help? You're getting a lot more than that now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 8, 2013 AAANND That is why I haven't jumped on it yet! No matter how I look at it, the only true way to get through this is to get this one fixed, or replace it with another one, however I cannot find one with these options in it. If I can find one that has everything except the 18" wheels and park assist, then I would be OK trading into it. Cant find one! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Then pay the Dealer, if you have to, to remove the ICE thermostat and replace it, then have them do a 'Hard Reset' and try again. Edited February 8, 2013 by GrySql Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 8, 2013 I have documented the low temps on my drive in, so now they have to fix it under warranty, I just have to make sure I get a decent loaner while they work on it as it has been 5 days between the 2 visits I was without a car. Today's trip in, with the defroster on full, the temp never got above 160* over the 25 mile trip, oly when I got to a section where the EV could kick in did it climb to 177*, but quickly fell off once the ICE kicked on again and started circulating the coolant again. By the time I got to work it was 128*, and the heater was set to 76* on auto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 8, 2013 UPDATE! YEAH!! Got a call from the service manager. They want me to drop the car off Tuesday night and they will have a loaner for me to drive, a Ford engineer will be out on Wednesday to work on my car. I also had him note todays readings for the temps with the grills blocked off. 1 neod192 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neod192 Report post Posted February 8, 2013 UPDATE! YEAH!! Got a call from the service manager. They want me to drop the car off Tuesday night and they will have a loaner for me to drive, a Ford engineer will be out on Wednesday to work on my car. I also had him note todays readings for the temps with the grills blocked off. I'm so excited for you!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 8, 2013 Giddy with antici............................... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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terryb Report post Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Giddy with antici...............................Me too man. I sure hope this turns your lemon into lemonade. Maybe you'll be able to give your poor griping typing fingers some rest. Seriously, I hope they make you giddy with mileage! :peelout: Edited February 8, 2013 by terryb 2 jeff_h and acdii reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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acdii Report post Posted February 13, 2013 Well the car has been dropped off, and no one there is optimistic in it getting repaired, they feel its more like a data hunting mission than an actual repair, in which case, they can keep it then. On a side note the loaner is an 11 or 12 Focus, base model, pretty sad that I get better MPG in it than my 47 MPG rated Fusion. I drove to the same gas station I always get gas at, and know what I can get in my other cars, so I reset the trip meter after filling. 11.5 mile trip at 55 MPH with a few stops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted February 13, 2013 Well the car has been dropped off, and no one there is optimistic in it getting repaired, they feel its more like a data hunting mission than an actual repair, in which case, they can keep it then.Acdii, may I suggest you start a new separate Thread about this specific (tomorrow's) repair.You are on the point of the spear with this issue and those of us who may need helpful info like you are providing can easily refer to it that way.Plus, with the proper title an internet search engine would note it as well. I wish you all the best on this and hope it is resolved to your satisfaction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 13, 2013 I will do that tomorrow. On an iPad now, and I hate 1finger typing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 16, 2013 Its all over but the waiting now. I went to Toyota and test drove a Camry and Avalon, cant swing an Avalon, and really didnt want to go down in what I have by going to the Camry. The Camry really is a nice car, and worth the money, and it gets its EPA easily enough, the test drive returned 41.7, I almost pulled the trigger on one, the price was right and everything looked good, but I really didnt want to give up the rain sensing wipers, auto dimming lights and adaptive cruise. So I had one last thought. Since we wanted this to be my last car for a long time, I wanted it to be fun, yet functional, and economical, we chose the Fusion Hybrid, it fit all three, or so we thought. The one thing about this car is my wife can fit in the back seat with the car seats installed, but cant in any of the other cars we looked at. So if I go into a car knowing that MPG will not be that great, then one expectation is not required. I went back to me dealer, who has been behind me 100% through this whole deal, and we worked out a new deal where he gets my FFH, and can sell it, while I wait for one to be built. We ordered a Titanium non hybrid with the exact options I want. We agreed on the price, and have it in writing. So now I just clean out this one, drop it off with both keys, and wait until the new one arrives. In the meantime, we have our 2010, going to get some new tires put on, drive that one like we have been. I could have ordered a HyTi, but he said, I dont think so, you would be doing the exact same thing, and he was right, I would be obsessed with the MPG game, so now I wont be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pers69 Report post Posted February 17, 2013 Good for you. I think you'll be happiest this way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) Just found out it can also tow 2000 pounds, all problems solved. Damned lyxsedia Edited February 17, 2013 by acdii Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pers69 Report post Posted February 17, 2013 It can what 2000 pounds? You lost me ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenryVIII Report post Posted February 17, 2013 Congratulations! Hopefully this will solve your dilemma. I'm fairly certain you'll be on the upper end of the Titanium mileage (high 20s and possibly into the low 30s) since you know how to drive this car. And after the warranty you can even look into aftermarket tuning and possibly squeeze out a few more mpgs (1-2 more) and gain some power/torque to boot! My friend owns a 2010 SHO and he says that they typically keep these motors runing rich. It "might" be the same for the 2.0L EB. Keep us posted. Pers69, I think he meant tow but probably got too excited typing away his response lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
