dalesky Report post Posted June 21, 2019 Bought my 2013 Titanium new, and had it routinely serviced only by Ford. No issues really, just an occasional wanky up/down auto window driver's side. Fixable, but annoying. Other than that, a great car.Sold it this month for a Honda Accord Hybrid, touring. The Honda doesn't handle as 'crisply', but is loaded with safety features that I love. Mileage so far is right at 44mpg. I averaged 43 over the 5 years with the Fusion.The Honda is quieter, and will have better resale, and has a GIANT trunk. No evidence of batteries in the car. Fusion was very limiting in that regard.Loved the Fusion, love the Honda. Best of luck to everyone, and keep up this great forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djminfll Report post Posted June 22, 2019 I've been trying to figure out what I'm going to do when it's time to trade in my '17 FFH Platinum. I can't go back to regular gas engine, not interested in most of the hybrids that are out there. I'm hoping electric becomes more popular and charging stations more prevalent. Good luck with the Accord Hybrid! 1 dalesky reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mwr Report post Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) I'm hoping electric becomes more popular and charging stations more prevalent.Pure electric cars will need to get a lot better for me to choose one as my only car. I have no interest in needing to find a (rare) charging station every 300 or less miles, possibly wait for an opening there, then wait another 30 minutes to one hour to charge. With my 2015 FFH, I drive 500 miles, then stop at any service station (they're everywhere), and am on my way in five minutes. I read a recent article about how a round trip from LA to Las Vegas took 5 hours in a gas car and 8.8 hours in an electric (and they didn't even have to wait for an open spot at a charging station). Edited June 23, 2019 by mwr 1 dalesky reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ethermion Report post Posted June 23, 2019 My daily ride is a Polaris Slingshot. Batmobile looking creature. I get taunted by Tesla owners all the time. Tesla dudes want to race me. I say sure, let's race to Miami. Pfft. Never got a taker. Electric vehicles are not ready for prime time. Stupid prices too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djminfll Report post Posted June 28, 2019 Pure electric cars will need to get a lot better for me to choose one as my only car. I have no interest in needing to find a (rare) charging station every 300 or less miles, possibly wait for an opening there, then wait another 30 minutes to one hour to charge. With my 2015 FFH, I drive 500 miles, then stop at any service station (they're everywhere), and am on my way in five minutes. I read a recent article about how a round trip from LA to Las Vegas took 5 hours in a gas car and 8.8 hours in an electric (and they didn't even have to wait for an open spot at a charging station). I agree, which is why I originally said I hope charging stations become more prevalent. But what I would really like to see is something I saw recently about electric vehicles in Japan - they have stations where you drive in, a machine positioned under the vehicle removes the battery pack and replaces it with a fully charged pack, and you drive off in about 5 minutes. This would be the turning point for electric vehicles in this country. 1 mwr reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ethermion Report post Posted June 28, 2019 I agree, which is why I originally said I hope charging stations become more prevalent. But what I would really like to see is something I saw recently about electric vehicles in Japan - they have stations where you drive in, a machine positioned under the vehicle removes the battery pack and replaces it with a fully charged pack, and you drive off in about 5 minutes. This would be the turning point for electric vehicles in this country.Yup. These are very wise words. 1 djminfll reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra348 Report post Posted June 30, 2019 I'm still up in the air about getting a '20 FFH as last new Ford I ever own. Have looked at Honda, Toyota, Chevy (Malibu) as well as others for hybrids.. Good choices out there. Electric ... infrastructure stinks right now. Distance on full charge also stinks. Why would I buy a vehicle with 200-250 mile range then have to wait 6-8 hours perhaps to recharge, then rinse & repeat - when I have 600+ mile range on 13 gallons of gas? Also, if you charge your electric at home, the increase in your electric bill needs to go toward cost of ownership. No one says anything about that in any pro-electric articles, do they? Hybrids for me for the foreseeable future ... just not Ford after some point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Why would I buy a vehicle with 200-250 mile range then have to wait 6-8 hours perhaps to recharge, then rinse & repeat - when I have 600+ mile range on 13 gallons of gas? In the 5+ years I've owned my FFH, I have never driven it more than 200 miles at once. If it had been an electric car I would have never had any range issue (assuming I could always find a charging station). Obviously this situation isn't the same for everybody, but the answer to your question is simple, not everybody drives more that 200 miles often if ever. 1 Sky14FFH reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy Report post Posted July 1, 2019 I have 10 kW of PV solar panels on the roof of my house. This time of the year my electric bill is the minimum monthly charge of $9.94. My bladder can't last more than about 130 miles before I have to stop. Because Ford is in love with trucks and SUVs instead of helping to save the planet I now drive a Tesla. Two or three times a year I visit my brother 270 miles away. I do it in one stop and charge the car during the break and eat lunch.It doesn't take 6 - 8 hours to charge the car. The supercharger starts out putting 120 kW into the car and ramps the level down as the SOC comes up. At most it takes 45 minutes to put enough charge into the car to complete my trip. I bought the car in 2016 and have free supercharging for the life of the car. I still have my 2013 Energi and use it for short trips of up to 21 miles which can usually be done without the engine starting. I put gas in it once a year and keep it at 1/4 tank or below. The battery gets charged in my garage for free and takes two hours max. 1 Sky14FFH reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darkside Report post Posted July 12, 2019 Apparently they think our HOME electric is free........ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky14FFH Report post Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) Hmm strange assorted levels of denial here except from the Tesla owner/ electric car wanter.dalesky: So you traded in a car you could get 51mpg in it for one that gets 43, is safer, sportier and better looking. At least you got bigger trunk space and a quieter engine, so thumbs up on that.djminfll You have a 2017. You just got it. You have AT LEAST 8 years on it. Buy and throw away, buy and throw away mentality? Edited August 8, 2019 by Sky14FFH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky14FFH Report post Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) Apparently they think our HOME electric is free........Tesla superchargers are free.Electric ... infrastructure stinks right now. Distance on full charge also stinks. Why would I buy a vehicle with 200-250Because you get free "fill ups", the superchargers are everywhere, it only takes 15 min to get a charge on one, they get more than 250 now and they are FAST AF. The ONLY drawback is the price, otherwise they are better in every way. Edited August 8, 2019 by Sky14FFH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sky14FFH Report post Posted August 8, 2019 murphy: You seem to have the means. What's preventing you from getting battery backups and disconnecting from the power grid all together and not being subject to the whims and rackets of power company? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy Report post Posted August 8, 2019 murphy: You seem to have the means. What's preventing you from getting battery backups and disconnecting from the power grid all together and not being subject to the whims and rackets of power company?I live too far north. The sun angle in the winter is too low to get enough power to do that. Plus when covered with snow the output is zero. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
