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I had a 2010, initial series FFH and loved it. Cheapest car to own I have ever had. Traded it in on a 2019 FFH Titanium and love it more, because there were so many upgrades from the 2010. When I was shopping I too looked at the the plug in and the hybrid. As Larry pointed out, the trunk in the FFH is useable. The cubby hole in the plugin holds almost nothing. So you'll be forced to use the back seat for large items. For the best mileage in the Energi you'll need to plug it in daily. With the FFH you just gas up and go. My onboard computer indicates I've gotten 46.3 mpg average on the current odometer reading of 33k. On trips if I take it easy and not race around I can get over 50 mpg. More than satisfied with the mileage. And no plug in to do. I suppose if you have the Energi and religiously plug it in and only do short trips you can go without gas. And mileage will be way better. So there is a trade off. Again, my 2019 FFH is the lowest maintenance cost vehicle I've owned since the 2010 FFH. After 3 1/2 years it's only been yearly "The Works" at Ford dealer. Oil and filter change, tire rotation for $50. Dan

Larry, I looked in all my documentation and searched online, no where could I find a 1.7 kwh battery in any FFH. My documentation, like yours, doesn't list anything about the battery size. Online every article lists a 1.4 kwh battery for the FFH second gen. Dan

I have a 2019 FFH Titanium. I absolutely love it. Got it at the end of Dec 2018. Traded in my 2010 FFH SEL which was the least costly car I have ever owned and bought the 2019 without looking at any lower trim models. It had everything I was looking for and more. Sun roofs aren't a big issue with me but are usually packaged with other options I want so it's not a big deal. I believe I paid around $29k with trade in. (Yeah I got beat with the trade in). Couple of things you need to consider when looking nowadays. Cars have a limited selection and Ford isn't making any more FFHs so their prices should continue to rise in the used market for a while. Most new cars have a dealer added on extra cost over sticker. So all in all the prices are way higher for used than they were before. I found this website that lists the differences between the SEL and Titanium. Not sure if it's exact but there isn't many options on the higher model. https://carbuzz.com/compare/ford-fusion-hybrid-sel-vs-hybrid-titanium I will say that I love heated steering wheel option and cooling leather seats but am not a fan of heated seats. I went with the Titanium model only because I had a great experience with the 2010 and I wanted it all. I didn't want to find out that I should have gotten the better model options later on. I do have the Ford extended warrenty that I purchased when I got the car. I would look into finding out if it was an option now on any used car I would buy. I have used the Ford plan on other Fords I have owned and it's a painless process compared to many aftermarket protection plans. Oh, my choice on your above cars would be the Titanium. Any questions, just ask. Dan

My 2019 FFH Titanium battery and system went into shutdown mode due to an inconsistent negative battery connection and according to the instructions required a manual restart. Come to find out it means a jump. Went out one morning to start the vehicle and it was dead. No lights or controls available. Had to use the FOB key to manually open the door. I called FORDs service and while waiting I decided to try and open the trunk since that's where the battery is and my inexperience led me to believe that a jump needed to get access to it inside the trunk. I was able to climb over the front seat and open the rear seats and fold them down. With a flashlight I was able to find the trunk release, reach in, and open it. It wasn't easy but doable. I'm over 70, 6ft tall and around 195 lbs. Funny ending. When the service guy arrived I figured he would need to jump it via the trunk. Said nope. Just open the hood. Showed me where the jump lug was located. Car started fine. Dealer ran tests on the vehicle since I figured the battery was going and they said nope, just a poor negative connection. They fixed it and haven't had any issues since then. Good luck with your task. Dan

Sounds like typical cold winter behavior I experience in my 2019 FFH Titanium and in my prior 2010 FFH. Cold weather is not a hybrid's friend. Similar to very hot weather where the ICE needs to run more to charge up the battery for the A/C. In cold weather it needs to run more to keep the ICE in operating temps especially with heater use.

Same here. Just got back from a 17 day cruise and it started right up on my 2019 FFH Titanium. I did get an email from Ford Pass app, after two weeks, that I would not be able to remotely start/stop the vehicle. Got that before on my prior FFH 2010. Dan

Traded in my 2010 in Dec 2018, which I had purchased in April of 2009, for a 2019 FFH Titanium. Decided to go that route when the battery issue was initially rearing it's head and my mileage was dropping. At that time the current fix was not known and the only option other than living with it was a new recon battery at the cost of about $4k. Given the age of the vehicle (9.5 years) and having no other issues it seemed to me that other items might be starting to wear down. So I bit the bullet and traded it in. I had already decided that I wanted a new FFH since my 2010 was the least expensive car I had ever owned. It ran great with absolutely no issues. So I went looking at the 2019s. Couldn't decide at first, between the hybrid or the plug-in. But looking at the trunk space of the plug-in, that decision was easy. There really wasn't any trunk space. So what were and are my thoughts on owning this FFH Titanium for about 2 years? Very impressed and happy with my purchase. The technology going from the 2010 to the 2019 is awesome and takes a bit of understanding/getting use to. I can access the vehicle from anywhere in the world via the internet. Remote start? No problem. Check if you forgot to lock the car? No problem. Car rides and handles great. I think it's one of the better looking vehicles out on the road. Mileage continues to be impressive. My current mpg is a bit over 44. Takes a hit in the winter but once the warm weather comes back I can increase that back to close to 50. That mileage is for all my driving to date. According to the onboard computer. Maintenance is once a year oil change & tire rotation via The Works from the Ford dealer ($49.99). Cabin air filterer every two years that you can do and engine air filterer every 36k miles. And eventually tires. Price wise I think I got a pretty good deal. They lowballed my trade-in but my price out the door with taxes, trade-in and all costs was a bit under $29k. I did purchase the Ford extended warranty from an internet dealer who had the best price. Way too many electronics that if failed would be expensive to fix. Dan

I leave mine on all the time. I do notice a slight improvement in the winter. But unless you're driving some distance, the cold weather continues to get the ICE circulating for cabin warmth.

Found this when searching for which Fusions FordPass works on: Vehicles equipped with FordPass Connect: FordPass Connect is an optional feature on select 2017 and newer model year vehicles and includes service for five years from the vehicle sale date as recorded by the dealer.

On my 2019 FFH I use the Fordpass app (android) to remote start. Pretty awesome app. I can lock/unlock, start/stop and other options from anywhere I have access on my phone. Dan

Great video. Weber Institute does a super job on their videos. Very informative. Would not want to have to take this apart. Thanks, Dan

Just wanted to point out. Lot's of highway driving is not the forte of hybrids since most of the engine work will be the ICE and not the electric motor.

You need to check out this thread:

May be ok for non-hybrids, but hybrids need to be run minimum once a month as per user's manual.

found this video. hope it helps: