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#1 OFFLINE   jsolan

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:21 AM

Has anyone compared a few tanks of regular gas against ethanol free?  If so what are your results?

 

This last tank I decided to put in ethanol free, which I don't think I will do again unless prices change.

I do like the way the car runs with it.  Maybe I'm just trying to justify the price, but I feel like the "growl" is less and the car is more responsive.  

However I'm only getting about 2-3 mpg better, which is not worth the extra 50 cents/gallon that it costs around here.  I'd need to get 5 mpg more just to break even.


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#2 OFFLINE   SteveB_TX

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:29 AM

2-3 mpg gain is about right with non-ethanol fuel.  Since ethanol is less efficient than straight regular gas, most vehicles will see a drop of 3 to 4 percent in MPG when using 10% ethanol fuel. 


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:59 PM

Did you have to buy a higher octane to get non-ethanol fuel? There are a few places that sell in around the Twin Cities but it's only ever 92+ octane that I've seen in MN.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 01:31 PM

I would love to be able to get non E fuel. Even the premium around here has 10% in it.  Since I fill using 89 now in both cars for just a little bit more than regular at other stations, both cars have been running better.  If I really want some bang for the buck in the Flex they have 93 Octane.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 04:14 PM

Did you have to buy a higher octane to get non-ethanol fuel? There are a few places that sell in around the Twin Cities but it's only ever 92+ octane that I've seen in MN.

 

It was 89 octane when I got it or at least it was in the 89 octane slot.

I'm back to 10% E with 87 this week.

 

I got 48.4 mpg over that tank which included 200 miles of mountainous driving.  Definitely my best tank, especially on those type of roads, but still not quite enough to cost justify it.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:53 PM

When they switched us over to 10% ethanol here in Maine, our 2006 Hyundai Elantra lost about 10% of its MPG.  Prior to E10 I could get 40mpg from it under ideal conditions afterwords, I could never get better than 36mpg. The plugs also got fouled up more rapidly.  I wish I could get a few tanks of non-E gas for my FFH to see what kind of an impact it would have.


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:34 AM

Just found this map. Use the zoom for your area.

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Nothing for me, But others can be saved....

 

 

http://pure-gas.org/...nsions/map.html


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:49 AM

Check near lakes or boat launches as well. There are some ethanol free stations that weren't on Pure-Gas in and around the lakes of East Texas. Boats do NOT like ethanol, regardless of octane.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:54 AM

A lot of things dont like ethanol. I have a John Deere gas trimmer that the fuel lines rotted away from this crap. The replacement lines aren't the same size so the tank leaks now.  My Toro rider mower no longer runs, carb needs a complete overhaul, and I have another push mower that also needs a new carb. 


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:24 PM

Nothing listed near me. :-(

 

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 06:49 PM

Nothing listed near me. :-(
 
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 07:49 PM

Nothing listed near me. :-(

 

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What!? No sad or crying emoticon.

:cry:   That's so sad! 


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:01 PM

:cry:   That's so sad! 

 

Okay how did you get that? I see it is pulled from this site, but it isn't in my list of available smileys


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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:40 PM

Just found this map. Us the zooor your aea.
pure-gas.org
 
Nothing for me, But others can be saved....
 
 
http://pure-gas.org/...nsions/map.html


wow I have to say I'm very surprised on the number of stations that sell E0 fuel. but you can limit your exposure using this simple test.

http://m.youtube.com...h?v=RbDAw4a6Ck0


there are some graduated bottles available that tell you the exact amount in your fill. look for ethanol test kit online.
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Posted 06 September 2013 - 10:44 PM

But come winter it all starts fresh.

p.s. none near me either. waaa waa woaaa.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:01 AM

 

Okay how did you get that? I see it is pulled from this site, but it isn't in my list of available smileys

 

All I do is click the smiley face on the top toolbar, then select "show all" that is underneath the scrolling emoticons.  :ohsnap:


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:30 AM

There are a few near us, but only premium gas octane levels, 91+.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:47 AM

There are a few near us, but only premium gas octane levels, 91+.

Since the FFH wants 87, using premium gas just do avoid ethanol doesn't seem like a good idea.


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Posted 17 November 2013 - 08:09 AM

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 10:11 AM

As an employee for Big Oil, I am very much against ethanol blending in gasoline for use in standard vehicles. However, an engine designed specifically for ethanol and ethanol blends only (meaning higher compression ratios and custom timing) could be as much as 10% more efficient than standard engines running pure gasoline thanks to ethanol's lower stoich A/F requirement, naturally high octane, and it's cooling properties. But then you run into Food for Fuel issues and availability.

Plus, if pure ethanol were available at the pump for say 25% less than gasoline, the liquor industry would go bust and everyone will be drunk 24/7 unless they are distilling a 5 gallon jug for later consumption.......wow 5 gallons of pure booze for $15.




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