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#21 OFFLINE   GrySql

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 12:32 PM

There is an almost direct replacement spare for the GY Eagle LS2' 234/45R18, it's diameter is almost identical.

The Space Saver (Donut) size is T145/80D17.  This 17" SS tire is 5.71" in width so it will barely fit the FFH's trunk wheel well's depth.

These all have to have a maximum diameter of 26.25" to fit the FFH Trunk wheel well.

 

I am looking to find a space saver 17" wheel that will bolt directly to the FFH with the 5 X 4.5 bolt pattern and has adequate clearance for the brakes.

There may be another tire possibility that has recently been used on certain cars with a '90D' profile on a 16" wheel.

 

See Tire calculator below, Tire 1 is the LS2, Tire 2 is the space save tire.

 

Tire Calculator is here for those that want to play along with this.

 

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:08 PM

I wonder how the donut included with the EB Ti can work with those 18" wheels but not the ones on the Hybrid. 


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 01:33 PM

I wonder how the donut included with the EB Ti can work with those 18" wheels but not the ones on the Hybrid. 

My thoughts exactly ... unless the overall size of the 18" wheels on the gas and hybrids are different? Could the regenerative brakes have anything to do with it?


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 02:18 PM

So, eager to find out when the car is built this week? Noted its scheduled for this week. Would be awesome to watch it being built. 


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 03:37 PM

So, eager to find out when the car is built this week? Noted its scheduled for this week. Would be awesome to watch it being built. 

Trust me, I'm refreshing these forums every 5 minutes! I even called Ford's customer service line to request a brochure :)

 

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:20 PM

I wonder how the donut included with the EB Ti can work with those 18" wheels

Does it?


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 07:36 PM

Now this brings up another question.

If Ford is Forcing you to use their seal a flat system and that ruins your tire from being out of balance and the TSM, shouldn't they be responsible for replacing said TSM and or tire re-balance or replacement?



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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:00 PM

Does it?

Well the Ti doesn't come with anything smaller than 18" rims, and even if it did the overall diameter between the 17-19 inch wheels are all pretty much the same, within 1/4" according to the tire size calculator.


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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

Why the EB Ti comes with a 16" spare tire on a car with up to 19" wheels and the Hybrid doesn't is question enough for me. :headscratch:

The transmissions and software are very different, maybe the answer is in that area.

 

How did you find the EB Ti tire/wheel sizes for the Tire Calculator?

That would be interesting to see, especially when the EB's spare tire is so much smaller.

 

The spare that I've come up with that matches my FFH is a 16" Fusion 5 X 108 spare wheel with a T145/90D16 tire.

That puts the spare's diameter almost exactly the same at the Eagle LS2's.

If space in the trunk's wheel well is tight I can keep the tire deflated (drops 1/2" from the diameter) and use the Tire Mobility Kit compressor to fill it as needed.

I'm still doing some final thinking about this.

 

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

Don't forget the main reason the Hybrid and Energi doesn't have a spare is to cut the additional weight of the car for fuel economy.  Carrying a spare and a jack all the time does contribute to lower MPGs (maybe not much but it will).


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:52 PM

I wonder if this will fit because it's a Universal Spare. No way I can measure it from here and don't know as I would trust the measurements from a stranger.

 

T125/80D16 tire multiple hole UNIVERSAL DONUT

 

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:47 PM

I wonder if this will fit because it's a Universal Spare. No way I can measure it from here and don't know as I would trust the measurements from a stranger.

 

T125/80D16 tire multiple hole UNIVERSAL DONUT

 

http://rochester.cra...3657939063.html

I'm not a spare tire expert but sure seem to becoming one.

See all the charts and stuff I posted up there?  That is there so you can see how closely the car's existing tires and a possible spare tire compare in the relevant dimensions.

I've shown the measurements of my car's wheels/tires and the spare tire's size comparison.

There is a Tire Calculator linked too, so you can compare tires for yourself.

 

It's the diameter, or revolutions per mile that we're concerned with most, total width and wheel bolt pattern are important too.

Your universal spare tire is 2.45" smaller and rotates 78 times more in a mile than my 18" wheel and tire - not close enough for me. 

If all you want is a regular spare tire they are easily found, the Ford Dealer has lots of them.

My last post (#29) has what I believe to be the correct spare tire size match for MY car's wheels/tire dimensions.

 

With the wrong size spare tire installed I have been told by Ford Fusion Hybrid experts that the Traction Control, ABS and other computerized systems on the Hybrid may cause the car to stop or may harm components.

Use whatever spare you want, but remember --> YMMV.

I'm not trying to convince anyone else, but I'll not use a mismatched set of tires on my car, period.

 

As far as adding the 30 pounds of a spare tire and jack goes, I will happily pay the mileage penalty.

My last blowout was in the middle of the Mojave Desert and the donut spare in that car saved the day.


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 04:37 PM

I have found out that a 2003 Windstar Jack and Lug wrench fit (supposedly), they're cheap enough on Ebay.  I'll know for sure next week.

Received the jack and lug wrench set from a Ebay auto dismantler, it works perfect.

I got the idea from this C-Max thread.

 

I jacked the car up following the directions in a standard Fusion Owner's Manual, piece of cake.

There are no spare tire instructions in the FFH's Owner's manual, none, only the Mobility Kit info.

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The jack set is fairly light weight, the jack head has a slot that fits the cars underbody (at the arrow position) and is very stable when lifted.

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Jack & tire removal instructions in standard Fusion's Owner's Manual.

 

 

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Tire off the ground.

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Arrow stamped for jack position, front and rear.

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Posted 20 March 2013 - 06:55 PM

I'm not a spare tire expert but sure seem to becoming one.

See all the charts and stuff I posted up there?  That is there so you can see how closely the car's existing tires and a possible spare tire compare in the relevant dimensions.

I've shown the measurements of my car's wheels/tires and the spare tire's size comparison.

There is a Tire Calculator linked too, so you can compare tires for yourself.

 

It's the diameter, or revolutions per mile that we're concerned with most, total width and wheel bolt pattern are important too.

Your universal spare tire is 2.45" smaller and rotates 78 times more in a mile than my 18" wheel and tire - not close enough for me. 

If all you want is a regular spare tire they are easily found, the Ford Dealer has lots of them.

My last post (#29) has what I believe to be the correct spare tire size match for MY car's wheels/tire dimensions.

 

With the wrong size spare tire installed I have been told by Ford Fusion Hybrid experts that the Traction Control, ABS and other computerized systems on the Hybrid may cause the car to stop or may harm components.

Use whatever spare you want, but remember --> YMMV.

I'm not trying to convince anyone else, but I'll not use a mismatched set of tires on my car, period.

 

As far as adding the 30 pounds of a spare tire and jack goes, I will happily pay the mileage penalty.

My last blowout was in the middle of the Mojave Desert and the donut spare in that car saved the day.

 

 

Yes, I see, I mis-read the 80 / 90 part so that Universal will not work by a long shot.

Sorry about that.  I'm Still looking for a  T145-90D16  Universal Spare Tire and wheel combo.

I did not purchase the Universal Spare in that Link.


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 07:21 PM

Still looking for a  T145-90D16  Universal Spare Tire and wheel combo.

I'm going to call my dealer next week and order a 16" Ti spare wheel, then find the tire while that is being worked on.

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Edit: BTW, I just re-read my previous post and my 'tone' was sort of surly, I didn't mean to be.  Sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

 

I ordered this car without ever seeing one in person and had no idea the hybrid didn't have a spare.

Thereafter getting answers from my closest local Ford Rep was not possible.

 

My new Dealer was ranked #1 in Service for all the Ford dealerships last year and I spoke with the Service Facility Director, the Service Manager, a Service Writer and two hybrid mechanics.

That answer was "don't use a mis-matched spare on a hybrid". 

The Service Management have offered to help me get any parts I need if I can come up with a plan, that is where I am now.

Ford should have done this for us but nevertheless I think I have it whipped.

All we need now is to test run this Frankenstein spare on my car and if successful the problem is solved.

Of course, it has to fit in the trunk's tire well.  :)


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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:52 PM

BTW, I just re-read my previous post and my 'tone' was sort of surly, I didn't mean to be.  Sorry if I offended you or anyone else.

 

 

Thanks for the apology but not needed, no offence taken by Me.


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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:07 PM

I passed on my request for a 16" 5X108 donut spare wheel with a T145/90D16 tire to my dealer.

Service thought that sounded good and should work.

The parts specialist is looking.

 

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 10:39 AM

I passed on my request for a 16" 5X108 donut spare wheel with a T145/90D16 tire to my dealer.

Service thought that sounded good and should work.

The parts specialist is looking.

 

waiting....

 

Good Luck, alot of us,  LoL ( well I am ),  are looking forward to your results and how long it takes, cost, etc. . My Service Dept. doesn't even have a solid three stars rating, so I'm waiting on your Service Dept. to see what they and you have to say when said wheel and tire combo arrive. Keep us posted Please. Thanks GrySql.



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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:07 PM

You're welcome. 

There has to be a solution that is doable and fairly easy for those of us that wander around in strange places outside of cell service.

If this doesn't work you'll see the Frankenstein spare on Ebay and I'll try something else.

 

BTW, that jack/lug wrench (3/4") combo was a smooth operation and if you look around on Ebay they are available from other Ford vehicles as well.

Just make sure the jack has the slot for matching the Fusion's lifting plate and the lug wrench . 

Go out and look under your car, at the arrow mark, and see the frame mounted, vertical 8' long (+-), thin plate I'm referring to.

The lug wrench/jack handle combo nests on the jack when stored, tidy.

The Ford catalog's price for a jack is $108, the handle/lug wrench is $34 - I paid <$40 shipped for the used assembly.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 04:58 PM

I picked up my spare tire "donut" from my dealer today, they took two weeks to research it and get it in stock. Cost was $255.00 It's a T16x4T wheel and the tire is T125/80/D16  97M. The overall size of it measures 24 inches and the tire that is on my car now measures about 25.5 inches. I thought it was important to maintain the overall height on all 4 wheels.


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