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#41 OFFLINE   Waldo

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:24 AM

 

The DRLs are only for the headlamps, from what I understand.  I want the LED strip that is located under each headlight, not the LED headlamps themselves, to be fully on during the day, as well as at night (normal op).  :)

 

There is no PCM like in the FFH and MKZ, in the Sport Trac, so no, it can't be programmed to turn on DRLs.  The DRLs on the 2002 require a physical switch on the headlamp switch, wiring, and the DRL module... none of which came on mine.

 

The shop manual says the DRL on the MKZ is the LED strip, not the headlamp, so the dealer activation should be all you need:

 

Daytime Running Lamps (DRL)

The DRL system consists of the BCM and the front signature lighting (if equipped).

The DRL system operates the front parking lamps at an increased intensity.

 

 

I looked up a 2008 Sport Trac, that one can have the DRL turned on, but if yours is a 2002 then you're right, it needs some hardware.









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Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:11 AM

My Service Advisor just called and found out that the DRL's can be turned on.

The down side is that they want to charge me $50 to do it. 

No thank you.

I would tell them that if they want me to give them high marks on their survey from Ford then they should turn them on at no charge and see what they say. I don't know about you but if the dealer wasn't willing to turn on DRLs at no charge while they're doing everything else then I wouldn't be satisfied with their service.


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 10:06 AM

I would tell them that if they want me to give them high marks on their survey from Ford then they should turn them on at no charge and see what they say. I don't know about you but if the dealer wasn't willing to turn on DRLs at no charge while they're doing everything else then I wouldn't be satisfied with their service.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 02:57 PM

 

The shop manual says the DRL on the MKZ is the LED strip, not the headlamp, so the dealer activation should be all you need:

 

Daytime Running Lamps (DRL)

The DRL system consists of the BCM and the front signature lighting (if equipped).

The DRL system operates the front parking lamps at an increased intensity.

 

 

I looked up a 2008 Sport Trac, that one can have the DRL turned on, but if yours is a 2002 then you're right, it needs some hardware.

 

Well thanks, that is good to know.  :) 

I must now go and beat someone severely about the head for the misinformation given me... then ask them nicely to please enable my LED DRLs!  :dance:


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Posted 28 August 2013 - 04:40 PM

Just picked my car up. No dice on the DRL. We talked at length. It seems that the option is available for a standard Fusion, but NOT Titanium. If someone has a Titanium and has had success with this, I'd like to know what dealer did it so we can have our dealers communicate with one another.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:13 PM

I would tell them that if they want me to give them high marks on their survey from Ford then they should turn them on at no charge and see what they say. I don't know about you but if the dealer wasn't willing to turn on DRLs at no charge while they're doing everything else then I wouldn't be satisfied with their service.

 

I'm so annoyed by the satisfaction surveys.  They always expect a perfect score, which makes the surveys meaningless.  Instead of expecting perfect scores all the time, why not use them as an opportunity for customers to provide constructive feedback to help make service better?  Nothing is perfect all the time, and the little things (like not leaving tool marks on a body panel) make a world of difference.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 08:38 AM

I'm so annoyed by the satisfaction surveys.  They always expect a perfect score, which makes the surveys meaningless.  Instead of expecting perfect scores all the time, why not use them as an opportunity for customers to provide constructive feedback to help make service better?  Nothing is perfect all the time, and the little things (like not leaving tool marks on a body panel) make a world of difference.

 I use them as an opportunity to provide constructive feedback. Whenever I do surveys I make sure to comment where applicable to explain my ratings so that the data is meaningful.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:53 AM

Reached out to Ford Service via Twitter on this topic. Here is the response:

 

@JoeandLori Correct; having them activated is not an option. I recommend sharing your opinion on this here: http://cot.ag/SyBrV9  ^NM

 

 


Edited by jcg1005, 29 August 2013 - 09:57 AM.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 07:49 PM

 I use them as an opportunity to provide constructive feedback. Whenever I do surveys I make sure to comment where applicable to explain my ratings so that the data is meaningful.

All they care about is getting fives on the score cards.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 08:18 PM

All they care about is getting fives on the score cards.


The fives don't make you better!

Any time I'm doing a training and there is a survey it's fun to see a high score and good feedback no question but only constructive critic is helpful for the next time. Sometimes it hurts to read such feedback but it either helps you to fix your flaws and improve on your training or you are out for the next time ( sometimes not a bad thing either ;-) )
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Posted 30 August 2013 - 07:29 AM

All they care about is getting fives on the score cards.

Some dealers probably do. Our selling dealer gave us a survey to fill out as one of the last steps before we left with our car. I filled it out giving very high marks to our salesman who did an excellent job. I didn't at all like the guy from the F&I office because he was pushy in trying to sell us extended warranties, etc. I told him "No" repeatedly but he kept pushing implying that only stupid people don't buy their overpriced warranties. I filled out on the survey that I was not at all pleased with his attitude or approach. After filling out the survey our salesman took us over to get our phones paired with the car, etc and walk us through it. A few minutes later the Manager who runs the dealership came over to meet us and thank us for our business and he apologized for the F&I guy based on my comments on the survey and asked me more about what he did that I didn't like and how I would've preferred to be treated. I don't know if my feedback ever got back to the F&I guy but I did appreciate the acknowledgement of my comments. The salesmen are very invested in getting 5s on their surveys because at some dealers (like ours) their comission is based on the results. If the salesman gets all 5s he gets a bonus on top of his comission for that sale. When I filled out the Ford survey I expressed again in my comments that our salesman was great but that I was not pleased with the F&I guy. So sometimes surveys do have an impact.


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:18 PM

I know DRLs can be turned on. I saw a FFH and a gas Fusion recently which both had DRLs and were not rental cars as they carried dealer stickers on the back. The gas Fusion even came from the same dealership as ours...


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Posted 02 September 2013 - 08:51 PM

They could be part of a company's fleet order of Fusion's which would allow for DRL to be ordered.

It shouldn't such a big hassl to get DRL's turned on if the customer wants it turned on. It's probably just a bit somewhere in one of the 70 computers.
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Posted 04 September 2013 - 11:03 AM

I would tell them that if they want me to give them high marks on their survey from Ford then they should turn them on at no charge and see what they say. I don't know about you but if the dealer wasn't willing to turn on DRLs at no charge while they're doing everything else then I wouldn't be satisfied with their service.

HB, they just told me that the DRL 'turn on' would be free, ain't it great! Now I wonder if they really can do it and how it will look.
We'll know in a few hours.

(Sitting in the fancy waiting room, just had my free breakfast from their little in-house cafe, typing on my iPad and reading a book, yawn). They must have 50 Fusions of all types here, rows and rows of them. Plenty of Energi's left too.

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Posted 04 September 2013 - 11:39 AM

Thanks GrySql for testing this for us. Please let us know how to coach our dealer into turning them on.   I've always felt that the potential safety benefit of DRL offset the small energy cost.


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Posted 04 September 2013 - 07:16 PM

Some insurance companies consider DRLs a safety feature and offer discounts for cars so equipped.  My service manager just checked and says it's not available on the 2013 Fusion Titanium Hybrid...



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Posted 04 September 2013 - 07:17 PM

So, ya wanna know what DRL's look like, see below.  Edit 1: They don't come on until you place the gear selector in 'Drive'. take it out of 'Park'.  I tried it today in the garage, R, N, D & L all have the DRL's on, P shuts them off.

When I asked why other Dealers say they can't do this activation I got a knowing look and the reply was "because you have to know your job and dig deep to find this software" - a good answer.  I have a great Dealer and a very special Service Advisor, that's him in my car showing me the DRL's so I could take a picture.

 

Edit 2: the Tech notes indicate the DRL software is stored in:

Body Control Module>Day Light Running Lamps>program Module>Re-test.

 

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:02 AM

But it may be true that the Titanium model cannot be turned on.  For example the Taurus SHO comes standard with HIDs and the "line" driving lights, not fog lamps.  Neither of those can be used as DRLs, so the US SHO cannot have DRLs enabled and all Canadian versions come with the base Taurus non-HID headlamps.

 

But it should be noted that DRL is a valid fleet option on US spec Titanium models per the order guide and it doesn't mention any different hardware, so I suspect there is still a way to turn them on through the software.



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:18 AM

Are the DRL the same as me turning on my regular headlamps manually?



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 08:24 AM

Are the DRL the same as me turning on my regular headlamps manually?

No.  They are at about half power and the tail lights are not turned on.


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