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#21 OFFLINE   Cobra348

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 07:33 PM

This is not a plug-in hybrid is it? Non plug-ins only charge when the ICE is running or by regenerative braking. They hardly ever charge to 100%, usually around 50%.

<grin>  Yes, they do!  I can regularly get the HVB to 100% - especially in Winter.  My problem is that with the cold, the HVB rarely gets below 50% before the ICE kicks in and spoils things.  It's only in low-speed city driving I have a shot at getting a low charge on HVB.

 

TBH, I think it's the driving conditions that allow the HVB to charge up like that.  I'd still be somewhat concerned if I could NEVER get the HVB much higher than 50%.


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My additions:  WeatherTech lasercut floor mats, in-channel wind deflectors (dark smoked),

Steeda strut tower brace, Steeda rear sway bar, Steeda hood struts, Ford donut spare

Grille - '17 Fusion Sport grille

Summer rims/tires - 17" Verde Regency rims with OEM tread

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#22 OFFLINE   murphy

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 05:20 AM

The car tries to maintain 50% so there is room to store energy from regenerative braking.  If the battery was at 100%, regenerative braking would not be possible.



#23 OFFLINE   ethermion

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 09:07 AM

Our FFH is my lovely bride's car, so I am not an expert.  But...  I have seen many times 100% charge.  Start out on a cold day, for example, and put on the heat, the ICE is gonna run to warm up to give you heat.  And, a by-product is that it charges the HVB, regardless of the HVB state of charge.

 

I dunno the HVB logic, but I have seen all over the place.  I would agree with previous observations that it "likes" about 50%.  But, "like" is not a marriage proposal.  Best not to neurous about it.



#24 OFFLINE   Waldo

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Posted 09 January 2019 - 10:38 AM

Also keep in mind that showing "full" on the graphic isn't really 100%.  I thought somebody on here once determined that the window you see on the graphic is really just between about 30% and 70%.



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Posted 10 January 2019 - 11:27 AM

Also keep in mind that showing "full" on the graphic isn't really 100%.  I thought somebody on here once determined that the window you see on the graphic is really just between about 30% and 70%.

 

Whatever it is, IT SUCKS!!!  There is no difference between the Hybrid and the Energi except for battery size and the plug in option.  I have yet to get anywhere close to sticker MPG either in town or on the highway.  Braking at 94%+ no more than 1 mph over speed limit, not running AC or heat.  



#26 OFFLINE   md13ffhguy

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 11:47 PM

 
Whatever it is, IT SUCKS!!!  There is no difference between the Hybrid and the Energi except for battery size and the plug in option.  I have yet to get anywhere close to sticker MPG either in town or on the highway.  Braking at 94%+ no more than 1 mph over speed limit, not running AC or heat.  

So hard to tell on a forum whether the problem is with the car, the driver, or the conditions. Loan me your car for a week, and I'll give you a better assessment.
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#27 OFFLINE   Beachcomber86

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 12:50 PM

So hard to tell on a forum whether the problem is with the car, the driver, or the conditions. Loan me your car for a week, and I'll give you a better assessment.

 

Nice try!  ;-)



#28 OFFLINE   Cobra348

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 03:52 PM

 

Nice try!  ;-)

It was a fair effort.  But as has been stated by me before:  if the car is so dissatisfying, go back to dealer and get one you would like.  Seriously.  Because if you keep it, you have no reason to gripe except at yourself.


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My additions:  WeatherTech lasercut floor mats, in-channel wind deflectors (dark smoked),

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Summer rims/tires - 17" Verde Regency rims with OEM tread

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#29 OFFLINE   Beachcomber86

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 07:33 AM

It was a fair effort.  But as has been stated by me before:  if the car is so dissatisfying, go back to dealer and get one you would like.  Seriously.  Because if you keep it, you have no reason to gripe except at yourself.

 

Unfortunately, you don't get your money back because the car doesn't live up to the stated EPA numbers.  



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Posted 20 January 2019 - 08:41 PM

 
Unfortunately, you don't get your money back because the car doesn't live up to the stated EPA numbers.  

I don't think you get it. It's not just the car. It's the drive, the driver, the climate, number of passengers, among other things... Think of the EPA numbers as an average, not a guaranteed minimum.

Or, just disregard all that and keep complaining.
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Posted 21 January 2019 - 10:05 AM

I don't think you get it. It's not just the car. It's the drive, the driver, the climate, number of passengers, among other things... Think of the EPA numbers as an average, not a guaranteed minimum.

Or, just disregard all that and keep complaining.

 

Amen!


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#32 OFFLINE   Cobra348

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 07:21 PM

I don't think you get it. It's not just the car. It's the drive, the driver, the climate, number of passengers, among other things... Think of the EPA numbers as an average, not a guaranteed minimum.

Or, just disregard all that and keep complaining.

Where's the like button when you need it! <grin>


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Big Red: 2017 FFH SE, Ruby Red, Med Light Stone leather

602A SE Luxury Package, Park Assist, Adaptive Cruise Control w/stop & go

Driver Assist Pkg (lane keeping, BLIS, auto high beams, rain-sensing wipers, heated steering wheel)

My additions:  WeatherTech lasercut floor mats, in-channel wind deflectors (dark smoked),

Steeda strut tower brace, Steeda rear sway bar, Steeda hood struts, Ford donut spare

Grille - '17 Fusion Sport grille

Summer rims/tires - 17" Verde Regency rims with OEM tread

Winter rims/tires - 17" OEM rims with Goodyear UltraGrip WRT Ice


#33 OFFLINE   devon

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 01:51 PM

 

Unfortunately, you don't get your money back because the car doesn't live up to the stated EPA numbers.  

I got a 2018 fusion hybrid just under 4000 miles, my ave is 39.2, I do alot of really shot 1 mile trips but then usually give it a 100 mile round trip every weekend so that seems to help round out the ave. Even though my car is a SE I lie to people and tell them I have Adaptive cruise control, How you might ask? Well I set my cruise to 55 mph and then truckers and everyone pass me so not only do a get great highway mileage usually 45-48 for the trip but I fell alot less stressed about the rat race of getting wherever 5 minutes quicker than everyone else. Try driving 55 your mileage will be amazing.


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#34 OFFLINE   Beachcomber86

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:40 AM

I got a 2018 fusion hybrid just under 4000 miles, my ave is 39.2, I do alot of really shot 1 mile trips but then usually give it a 100 mile round trip every weekend so that seems to help round out the ave. Even though my car is a SE I lie to people and tell them I have Adaptive cruise control, How you might ask? Well I set my cruise to 55 mph and then truckers and everyone pass me so not only do a get great highway mileage usually 45-48 for the trip but I fell alot less stressed about the rat race of getting wherever 5 minutes quicker than everyone else. Try driving 55 your mileage will be amazing.

 

Driving 55 on a 70 mph interstate...uh, no!

I can handle not getting the posted 41 mpg for highway.  What I can't tolerate is getting 35/36 mpg (my 2016 Fusion SE Ecoboost got 32 while driving faster) while doing the following during my daily commute.

1.  One person in the car with a backpack and coat (trunk is empty)

2.  No A/C and minimal heat (I use the seat warmer)

3.  Cruise set at no more than 1 mile over any speed limit (33 miles of open interstate with minimal traffic, 45 mile total commute).

4.  Stay in the right hand lane except to pass when required.

5.  Draft semis as much as possible

6.  Braking score > 95%

7.  Tried pulse and glide with minimal results (< 1 mpg improvement).

 

I will admit that I do try to stay with traffic when the traffic light turns green, but considering it is so short a distance, that is not a true mileage buster.

 

So, how do you get closer to posted MPGs while driving the car in a reasonable manner?



#35 OFFLINE   devon

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:14 PM

Hmm not sure, I had for a short time a 2015 Ecoboost Focus with the 1.0 litre and the 6 speed manual, I had to go 55 in it also to get over 40mpg, 65mph would yield a flat 40-38 and going 75 it would drop to 32. What I didn't like about the car was the lack of tow end torque if you didn't spool the turbo it would really fall flat on its face.

 

But anyways the car didn't get the posted EPA numbers, I think all manufactures seem to lie about the economy of their cars, hopefully you can find a solution.






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