Bob Teddy Report post Posted October 1, 2013 Thoughts on this matter? Pricing them out with the same options its about a 4k-5k hike in price, will the Lincoln manufacturing pay off? Is it better build quality, better parts used? Is it worth it.... The only reason I started looking is because the incentive on the Lincoln is actually 0.0% for 60 months which is stupid since fusion is 2.9, and x plan has 750 dollar cash incentive as well..... WTF?? Anyhow.... I would love some opinions on this matter, the looks of the car vs. fusion... etc. Share me your thoughts! TELL ME! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lolder Report post Posted October 1, 2013 It's basically the same car built on the same line with fancier extras and trim. 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkegel Report post Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) The no shift lever is cool. So are the 19" wheels and the dual exhaust. Plus I think cooled seats have been available all along. Not to mention they are cool as hell looking, IMO. Around here (Chicago 'burbs) there have been no MXZ hybrids to be had though. I've never even seen one. They are at least $8k more than a modestly equipped Fusion Ti though, aren't they? $44k vs $36-ish? Dave Edited October 1, 2013 by dkegel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted October 1, 2013 On the MKZ Hybrid you can get a panoramic sunroof which isn't an option on the FFH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lolder Report post Posted October 1, 2013 I think the question is, do the Mexicans and robots that presently build both cars in the same factory take more care with the MKZ than the FFH. I would suspect the answer is no. 2 hybridbear and Sleddog reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkegel Report post Posted October 1, 2013 I do know that even though they are built on the same line, after they're built, the Lincolns go through extra testing over what the Fords go through. At least that's the way it is at the Chicago plant with the Taurus and MKS. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted October 1, 2013 The no shift lever is cool. So are the 19" wheels and the dual exhaust. Plus I think cooled seats have been available all along. Not to mention they are cool as hell looking, IMO. Around here (Chicago 'burbs) there have been no MXZ hybrids to be had though. I've never even seen one. They are at least $8k more than a modestly equipped Fusion Ti though, aren't they? $44k vs $36-ish? DaveI think I have seen at last two so far here up north. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 1, 2013 Lincoln also has better sound deadening. The roof which has been noted. Cooled seats. Better rates. Better ride quality. THX radio is alot better than the sony. Also remember you get all scheduled maintenance in the first 50k miles included The longer bumper to bumper too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkegel Report post Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) I think I have seen at last two so far here up north. ;-) Hybrids? That's pretty good. My dealer has all sorts of non hybrid versions, 3.7l, Ecoboost, AWD, but never any hybrids. Dave Edited October 1, 2013 by dkegel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 1, 2013 Theres many lower end ones in my area. But almost all cars optioned decently are the standard engines. Mine was ordered special for someone and they didnt take it and I saw one other loaded almost like mine (not in white) that also shows special order on the window sticker. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkegel Report post Posted October 1, 2013 Lincoln also has better sound deadening. The roof which has been noted. Cooled seats. Better rates. Better ride quality. THX radio is alot better than the sony. Also remember you get all scheduled maintenance in the first 50k miles included The longer bumper to bumper too. What does "better rates" mean? Interest rates? If so, that stuff changes all the time so I'm not sure that counts. :) I heard that, if they haven't already, Lincoln will soon be providing lifetime maintenance on their cars. But don't quote me. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 1, 2013 I don't see lifetime maintenance happening.. They are adding all kinds of extras for the black editions but the will be fully loaded cars. If they did a lifetime maintenance option tho I bet you they add that into sticker to cover 125k of milage oil changes and such. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted October 1, 2013 MKZ has: Lifetime roadside assistanceButter soft perforated leatherSki pass thru in rear seat behind arm restAdaptive suspension with three comfort settingsAdaptive led headlights that turn with the steering wheelLed exterior lightingFull ambient led lighting in all doors footwells consoles and cup holdersSound deadening double laminated front side windowsA lot more soft touch materials in the interior. No hard piano black panels. Push Button start stop is standardAvailable power rear privacy sunscreen (I love that thing!)Etc. etc. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkegel Report post Posted October 1, 2013 I don't see lifetime maintenance happening.. They are adding all kinds of extras for the black editions but the will be fully loaded cars. If they did a lifetime maintenance option tho I bet you they add that into sticker to cover 125k of milage oil changes and such.Sorry. Not lifetime maintenance, lifetime warranty. Not sure if it will be bumper to bumper or power train. I guess we'll see. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 1, 2013 They could never do bumper to bumper.. And as far as a limited powertrain lifetime warranty you can look back at Chrysler and the one they had.. They did less than 100 warranty claims past what the prior warranty was. There is so many reasons they can deny it they almost always do. Even under current warranty. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted October 1, 2013 Hybrids? That's pretty good. My dealer has all sorts of non hybrid versions, 3.7l, Ecoboost, AWD, but never any hybrids. DaveYes hybrids the 2.0H is pretty unmistakable. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Teddy Report post Posted October 2, 2013 how so, I didnt see a noticeable difference, then again I wasnt looking at the normal one really. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 2, 2013 On the back of the car it says 2.0h ;) The other 2.0 has a ecoboost logo next to it and its easy to tell them apart at distance. 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 2, 2013 Just realized this and figured I would post it. The 2014's get a 24k mile maintance. The 2013 like my came with 4yr/50k. Apparently you get less now. Maybe the black edition will have the 4/50k again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Teddy Report post Posted October 2, 2013 Sad thing is the 0.0% financing dissappeared today as new deals happened today! :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 2, 2013 What did they say current rates are? They want to move people to Lincoln from ford so they will always have a better rate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Teddy Report post Posted October 2, 2013 Current rates are now 1.9% + 750 cash with X plan... Yesterday it was 0% interest at 60 months + 750 cash with x plan.... I was all for it too...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 2, 2013 Is 1.9 for 72? That's what they had for when I got mine.. Seems to be a magic number Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Teddy Report post Posted October 2, 2013 (edited) 2014 APR Financing 10.0 % for 36 months0.9 % for 48 months1.9 % for 60 months3.9 % for 72 monthsand$750A/X/Z/D-Plan Customer Cash 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2013 APR Financing 10.0 % for 36 months0.0 % for 48 months0.0 % for 60 months1.9 % for 72 monthsand$1,000Competitive Conquest Bonus Cash 2and$750A/X/Z/D-Plan Customer Cash 3 Edited October 2, 2013 by Bob Teddy 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie Sessum Report post Posted October 2, 2013 That's what had me confused than was the years.. Btw if you sign up on the website for a brochure to be mailed to you put all the correct info and address and within 48hours u will have more bonus cash they can pull up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
