Simmoniz?

[iNexxFear]

So I know when my 2010 Fusion comes in I am going to get asked about Simmonizing the vehicle... I have owned countless numbers of vehicles in the past without being asked this question.. All have survived and none with signs of rust that I can visibly see...

 

My present vehicle is about 5 years old, and I usually give it a good coat of wax 1 or 2 per year by hand... I've never had a problem with the paints (especially since my last cars have been 2000 and 2004 model years)... I'm still thinking of declining this offer and I know its kind of a money making profit for the car dealer... But thoughts, experiences or items that may make me change my mind?

 

All that I can say is that both the 2000 and 2004 have always gotten compliments from neighbors, friends, co-workers and so on when I clean my car... As it is usually done thoroughly and cleanly (and I'm no professional, I'm more of a computer geek tecnically but love a clean car)...

 

Let me know your thougths....

 

Best Regards!

[bbf2530]

So I know when my 2010 Fusion comes in I am going to get asked about Simmonizing the vehicle... I have owned countless numbers of vehicles in the past without being asked this question.. All have survived and none with signs of rust that I can visibly see...

 

My present vehicle is about 5 years old, and I usually give it a good coat of wax 1 or 2 per year by hand... I've never had a problem with the paints (especially since my last cars have been 2000 and 2004 model years)... I'm still thinking of declining this offer and I know its kind of a money making profit for the car dealer... But thoughts, experiences or items that may make me change my mind?

 

All that I can say is that both the 2000 and 2004 have always gotten compliments from neighbors, friends, co-workers and so on when I clean my car... As it is usually done thoroughly and cleanly (and I'm no professional, I'm more of a computer geek tecnically but love a clean car)...

 

Let me know your thougths....

 

Best Regards!

 

Hi iNexx. :D What do you mean by "Simmonizing". Do you mean paying for a Dealer applied paint treatment/protectant?

 

If that is what you are inquiring about, here is the short answer: Do not fall for the sales pitch and save your money.

 

You do not mention how much the Dealer is planning on charging for this paint treatment? However, whatever they are charging, it is for nothing more than an expensive wax job. Essentially, if you wax your car twice a year yourself, you will be protecting your car better than this Dealer applied paint treatment.

 

So keep you money in your wallet and wax your car yourself. At least you will get some personal satisfaction when your neighbors complement you.

 

Good luck with your new Fusion when it arrives! :beerchug:

[iNexxFear]

Hey there... You got my question accurately... and you're response is exactly what I have read enoumerous times on the internet... I thought I would ask here incase anyone has indeed ever taken the offer and seen any huge enhacements that they have normally not seen in the past...

 

At the present time, my thought is to save the cash and either use it towards an extended warranty or keep it banked for the time being incase I see any other accessories I want, or a financial need arrises...

 

Thanks again for your response...

 

However, those who might have had the paint treatment process (Simoniz) please revert with your experiences as well..

[akirby]

The former Lincoln VP of marketing had a term for this - it's called "mop-n-glo". At best it's just as good as your own wax jobs, only more expensive. At worst it's a ripoff. Just say no!

[akirby]

Let me add that fabric protection can be legit - if it's silicon based and comes with a guarantee. If it's water based then you can get the same protection from a can of Scotchguard.

 

I sold furniture in college and we had a silicon based protectant that would last for years and really worked. I used to do demos by spraying a regular paper towel ahead of time and then filling it with several ounces of water - it was absolutely waterproof (for a few minutes). I would also pour coke over a treated linen throw pillow and it would just roll off. It's worth the money but only if it's silicon based.

[iNexxFear]

Thanks all for the feedback... Since I have leather interior coming, I wouldn't need to worry about the scotchguard piece, but would incase I had cloth...

 

Right now I am truely focusing on the exterior paint, uness there is a special treatment that folks know go onto leather... However again I treat my interior dash, leather seats and exterior paint (via waxes) regularly... never had any cracking what so ever...

 

So at this point, unless the paint treatment is special formulated... I'm thinking it is a mute point... And glad to hear some agreement on this point...

 

Just wondering if there is any long term benefit to the paint's protectant or if the simoniz process is a hoax and a kind of ficticous warranty that you have to jump through hopps to get validated/warranteed!

[bbf2530]

Thanks all for the feedback... Since I have leather interior coming, I wouldn't need to worry about the scotchguard piece, but would incase I had cloth...

 

Right now I am truely focusing on the exterior paint, uness there is a special treatment that folks know go onto leather... However again I treat my interior dash, leather seats and exterior paint (via waxes) regularly... never had any cracking what so ever...

 

So at this point, unless the paint treatment is special formulated... I'm thinking it is a mute point... And glad to hear some agreement on this point...

 

Just wondering if there is any long term benefit to the paint's protectant or if the simoniz process is a hoax and a kind of ficticous warranty that you have to jump through hopps to get validated/warranteed!

 

H iNexx. :D Again, to put it bluntly: It is not worth a fraction of the money they charge.

 

There is no "special formulation". It is the same wax or polymer paint protectant that you can buy at Walmart and KMart from Meguiar's, Mother's, Zaino etc etc.

 

You are simply paying the Dealer a bundle of money to apply what you can apply yourself. And it will last no longer than that same good quality wax you purchase for $15 and apply yourself.

 

And most of the "Warranties" and "Contracts" offered by these companies do entail hoop jumping. Whether it is annual or bi-annual inspections, periodic reapplications or some other qualifying action you must undertake.

 

If you need more corroboration, please go to LINK: Meguiar's and/or LINK: Mother's and/or LINK: Autopia. Read their "How-to's" and FAQ's. You will find no qualified or recognized car care professionals who will recommend this type of product, unless they are selling it themselves. It is a waste of money.

 

At this point, to keep asking for opinions is sort of like asking if anyone here believes that aliens abducted Elvis. Sure, sooner or later you may get someone who will say yes. But do you really want to take their advice? :hysterical2:

 

The short answer is "Wax your car yourself and save your money for something more important".

 

Good luck. :beerchug:

[Mercury Milan]

Our dealer told us that he was going to throw in a complete wax job for our 2010, and I told him that if his dealership wax ever touched our car I would refuse delivery. All you need to do is to give your car a good claying and buy a quality wax like Zaino. They are actually one of the few companies that work along side of the major paint companies to formulate their paint treatments to chemically compliment the cars paint. I heard that 3M has in the past been in talks with them to be part of their company but the Zaino family prefers not to sell. In any event just clay your car and give it a good treatment and you will be fine. The claying will take you around an hour, and the first coat of treatment will take you around 25 minutes for the Z5 and Z AIO. After that you simply spray on a coat of Z6 every now and then and that only takes around 10-15 minutes. Whatever you use on your car I strongly recommend not having the dealer touch it. I have seen them prep cars. I have seen them drop the ragity rags that they use on the car on the ground, and then continue using them on the car. To them your car is just another one, and they couldn't care less about doing what is in its best interest. Like the others have said here, just buy your own treatment and do it yourself. It's really not hard and it feels great when you've finished :)