stlouisgeorge Report post Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) I am trying to make a deal on a 2017 Ford Fusion Hybrid Platinum. As we know the "Platinum" trim is new to 2017. I got a real good price on one yesterday but I don't like the sales people. So.. when I saw a new 2017 Ford Fusion Hybrid with the hard to find "Ruby Red" paint job on the web today, I instantly put a vocal bid on it (250 miles away). What a low price they gave me!! [Too good to be true] Two hours later into the deal I realized I was bidding on a 2017 Ford Fusion Hybrid Titanium (not a Platinum). Ouch. The Titanium I am bidding has the packages shown in the image (please click on thumbnail below). It meets my needs (All I really want is ALL of the amazing Safety features of the Platinum) So what features are exclusive to a 2017 Ford Fusion Hybrid Platinum? (What do I forfeit?) I will build this list as I can, but please chip in. Tomorrow is "deal day" for me. Doing my homework..LED Signature Lighting18 inch Premium Painted Dark Stainless WheelsLots of extra "premium" leather (on dashboard for example)Power Tilt and Telescoping Steering Wheel? Edited December 22, 2016 by stlouisgeorge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted December 22, 2016 The Platinum just makes all the options of the Titanium standard and adds some cosmetic touches including the leather inside. Titanium already has the LED headlights but the power tilt wheel is basically the only thing you can't get on the Titanium. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stlouisgeorge Report post Posted December 26, 2016 Here is the official list from the Ford web site (I still keep finding new MFR Ford Fusion web info everyday). • Premium V6 sport grille with unique paint• Cooled driver and passenger seats• Leather door-trim and leather-wrapped and padded instrument panel and console lid• Premium leather seat top and premium leather-wrapped steering wheel• Power tilt/telescoping steering column with memory• 19-Inch polished aluminum wheels (gas only) [Ford Fusion] Design PLATINUMhttp://www.ford.com/cars/fusion/features/#page=Feature2(scroll to bottom) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted December 27, 2016 Here's the real official list - directly from the order guide. Note though that this is compared to the base Titanium, I've highlighted the items that are available as an option on the Titanium in blue. EXTERIOR● 19” Polished Aluminum Wheel (different 19in wheel vs Titanium)● Auto High Beams● Power Moonroof with Universal Garage Door Opener● Premium Sport Grille with Unique PaintINTERIOR/COMFORT● Cooled Driver and Passenger Seats● Heated Steering Wheel● Leather-Wrapped and Stitched Instrument Panel● Leather-Wrapped and Stitched Console Rails● Power Converter 110V Outlet● Power Tilt/Telescoping Steering Column with Memory● Premium 1st and 2nd Row Floor Mats with Trunk Mat● Premium Leather-trimmed Seating Surface● Premium Leather-Wrapped Door Armrests & ConsoleArmrest● Premium Leather-Wrapped Steering WheelDRIVER ASSIST TECHNOLOGY● Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop-and-Go● BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross-TrafficAlert● Enhanced Active Park Assist with Parallel Parking, Park OutAssist, Reverse Perpendicular Parking, and Forward andSide Sensing Systems● Lane-Keeping System includes Lane-Keeping Alert, Lane-Keeping Aid and Driver Alert System● Pre-Collision Assist with Pedestrian Detection includingForward Collision Warning, Brake Support and ActiveBraking● Rain-Sensing WipersFUNCTIONAL● SYNC® Connect● Voice-Activated Navigation System with SiriusXM Traffic andTravel Link®Note: SiriusXM Traffic and Travel Link® includes a 5-year prepaidsubscription1. Services are not available in Alaska and Hawaii 1 stlouisgeorge reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djminfll Report post Posted December 27, 2016 I just saw this posting, I know it's probably too late, I assume you've made your decision. The biggest differences between the Titanium and the Platinum are the quilted leather seats, and the leather wrapped dashboard in the Platinum, both of which are not optional on the Titanium. There isn't much difference in the price between the two, so you should look at both and get the one you like better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stlouisgeorge Report post Posted December 29, 2016 I got a Platinum. If you want ALL the safety "driver assist" features you will NEVER find a FFH Titanium on a lot with all of them. The cost is right up there anyway. 1 djminfll reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djminfll Report post Posted December 30, 2016 Congrats! Did you get it in Ruby Red? Did you take delivery yet? If so, what are your initial impressions? I'll tell you what one of my favorite things is - the new Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop-and-Go ability. I drove in an hour of traffic yesterday on the freeway, and my feet never touched a pedal the entire time. I'm looking forward to hearing how you like the car! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stlouisgeorge Report post Posted December 30, 2016 Congrats! Did you get it in Ruby Red? Did you take delivery yet? If so, what are your initial impressions? I'll tell you what one of my favorite things is - the new Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop-and-Go ability. I drove in an hour of traffic yesterday on the freeway, and my feet never touched a pedal the entire time. I'm looking forward to hearing how you like the car! The dealer with the Ruby Red FFH Platinum wouldn't deal. They were in Chicago 200+ miles away. I used them as a pawn to secure the deal I had a local dealer 1 mile from work. I did buy a 2017 Ford Fusion Hybrid Platinum in Shadow Black on Monday. You can read my exploits here:http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/11534-long-time-reader-first-time-owner/ Too chicken to do "stop and go" (yet). I just got comfortable with the Adaptive cruise (amazing). I took my kids out to Star Wars tonight (11 year old fell asleep right at 945pm). I didn't know I had a heated steering wheel until my 14 year old pointed it out (and started playing that dang kids music whatchamacallit) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra348 Report post Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) Here's a thread I started with some remarks about the features of the '17 models. This is on SE trim and compares to '15 Titanium in spots ... but it may help. Stop & go works well ... but have the foot hovering just in case. Set distance for at least 2 seconds. If traffic is ALREADY stopped, it will not work and that is the way it's set. Heated wheel setting was (for me) in an unexpected place but it does make sense I suppose. One last thing ... if this is your first hybrid take a bit of time with the manual and the car running to see where everything is, work the buttons/settings and learn stuff. It's worth the time. Have fun with the new ride! Edited December 30, 2016 by Cobra348 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stlouisgeorge Report post Posted December 31, 2016 Stop & go works well ... but have the foot hovering just in case. Set distance for at least 2 seconds. If traffic is ALREADY stopped, it will not work and that is the way it's set.Regarding the "Adaptive Cruise Control with Stop-and-Go" feature.. You said set the "distance" for "2 seconds".. Is each bar (up to four) corresponding to 1 second? So "two bars" = "two seconds behind car in front"?I didn't see that in the demo video.https://owner.ford.com/how-tos/vehicle-features/convenience-and-comfort/adaptive-cruise-control-with-stop-and-go.html?year=2017&model=Fusion&sync=sync3 So to use Stop and Go I let the car slow down to zero while in adaptive cruise and let it do its thing. Once I interfere the Stop and Go session is released? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra348 Report post Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) Each of those bars is approximately 1 second following distance. I usually run 2 bars but crank it up to 3 or 4 on highways at 55 or better. The stop/go feature is new for '17 so vids may not have it all. <snip> ...So to use Stop and Go I let the car slow down to zero while in adaptive cruise and let it do its thing. Once I interfere the Stop and Go session is released?100% correct. Applying the brake with your foot deactivates cruise (as normal). If you look at the setting then you will see your preset speed with a line thru it - overridden. As used to the stop/go as I am, I still have my foot ready, so consider that. If you do allow the car to completely halt by itself, be advised that it will not start rolling until the vehicle ahead is at least the follow distance away so you may need to nudge the gas a bit. The car will then attempt to reach the preset speed once again. And to answer the unasked question ... yes, the tallights do come on. <chuckle> I have seen them reflected in the grille of the car behind me. Edited December 31, 2016 by Cobra348 2 FineEngineer and stlouisgeorge reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stlouisgeorge Report post Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) Each of those bars is approximately 1 second following distance. I usually run 2 bars but crank it up to 3 or 4 on highways at 55 or better. The stop/go feature is new for '17 so vids may not have it all. 100% correct. Applying the brake with your foot deactivates cruise (as normal). If you look at the setting then you will see your preset speed with a line thru it - overridden. As used to the stop/go as I am, I still have my foot ready, so consider that. If you do allow the car to completely halt by itself, be advised that it will not start rolling until the vehicle ahead is at least the follow distance away so you may need to nudge the gas a bit. The car will then attempt to reach the preset speed once again. And to answer the unasked question ... yes, the tallights do come on. <chuckle> I have seen them reflected in the grille of the car behind me.Here is video shot by a guy in the Bay Area in horrible stop and go traffic using his ACC with Stop and Go. Unfortunately, the tail lights didn't help. He later posted (then deleted) a photo of his beautiful 2017 Ford Fusion Energi Platinum after being rear-ended by a drunk driver. Ugghh...http://www.fordfusionenergiforum.com/topic/4480-acc-with-stop-and-go/?p=27527 Unrelated. Notice he is using the Waze navigation app instead of SYNC3. Waze doesn't have the fancy graphics, but the traffic data, provided by other Waze users in the area, is very accurate. You can see an accident within 2 minutes of it being reported (and then you are re-routed). Time to destination is uncanny. Photos and text can be added to a marked accident. Users also mark police cars. Edited January 3, 2017 by stlouisgeorge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra348 Report post Posted January 2, 2017 Using stop/go in stop and go traffic is not always good but it looked like he was doing nicely. Where I live there is ample opportunity to use it to some effect but it's negated by drivers cutting in and other factors. Only one place within the city limits can I use it to any decent return and that's actually a nice downhill where I set the speed to limit 30 MPH and allow the ACC to regen the battery as it keeps me from going too fast. Stop light at the bottom, I always use my foot on the brake. Once out of the main city areas I can use ACC at 40 and above very nicely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stlouisgeorge Report post Posted January 13, 2017 I have been using adaptive cruise with stop and go for a week now. It is fantastic. The stop and go is AMAZING. Just like automatic parking it takes a leap of faith -- but it does work. You do have to remember to actually drive the car when you get off the highway. When my 12 year old reaches 16 the totally autonomous 2021 Fusion will be out.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites