Automate Report post Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Looks nice, available summer 2016http://www.hybridcars.com/lincoln-debuts-redesigned-2017-mkz-hybrid-and-non-hybrid-models/ Edited November 18, 2015 by Automate 2 GrySql and hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted November 18, 2015 I like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CCalvinN Report post Posted November 19, 2015 I'm having mixed reactions on this. I really REALLY liked the split wing grille look on the older one. But this new grill makes it look more like a Jag. I think I'll have to sit with it for awhile before I can give it a thumbs up or a thumbs down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted November 19, 2015 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO! NO! NO!!!! :banghead: 2 corncobs and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talmy Report post Posted November 19, 2015 My only question is does it finally ditch Microsoft from My Lincoln Touch? As far as I'm concerned it's the Achille's heel of Ford/Lincoln. Get that fixed and it looks like my perfect car for cruising around the western US in our retirement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Automate Report post Posted November 19, 2015 My only question is does it finally ditch Microsoft from My Lincoln Touch? As far as I'm concerned it's the Achille's heel of Ford/Lincoln. Get that fixed and it looks like my perfect car for cruising around the western US in our retirement.I think Ford/Lincoln has stated all cars with MyTouch will have Sync 3 by 2017. Sync 3 is no longer based upon Microsoft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted November 19, 2015 I hate to say it but that grill is ugly it doesn't fit together with the headlights. Personally I think it's a step (maybe two) backwards. 2 B25Nut and Hybrider reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Automate Report post Posted November 19, 2015 I guess it just goes to show, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like the look of the Fusion but would not even consider the current MKZ because of the funky split grill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted November 19, 2015 I guess it just goes to show, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like the look of the Fusion but would not even consider the current MKZ because of the funky split grill.Your absolutely right and that's a good thing otherwise it would be boring. Still for me personally I would go split before bulky ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machoman1337 Report post Posted November 19, 2015 I dig the Jaguar-esque grille. Hey, Ford used to own Jaguar at one point just like it did with Aston Martin :P Still prefer the Fusion looks though :) 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Did she say a 245hp Hybrid? Under the hood, the Lincoln MKZ will have two engine/powertrain options: a twin-turbo 3.0-liter V6 with 400 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque with AWD and torque vectoring, or a 2.0L four-cylinder hybrid with 245 hp and front-wheel drive. Lincoln promises that both options focus on “smooth, refined power” and “quiet luxury.” http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/11/all-new-2017-lincoln-mkz-makes-surprise-debut-at-la-auto-show.html Edit: Here's the 2017 Lincoln MKZ on the Lincoln website, better pictures and better info:http://www.lincoln.com/2017-mkz/ Edited November 20, 2015 by GrySql 1 machoman1337 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Riggo Report post Posted November 20, 2015 I like the new MKZ look. I always thought the MKZ was a notch below the fusion when it came to body styling, now they seem to be heading in the right direction in making the MKZ the more upscale looking car. Just my two cents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra348 Report post Posted November 21, 2015 Ummm, I've heard of retro styling but push-button gear shift? That's straight out of the '50s Chrysler products! To me, though it still looks like the exterior styling isn't finished on it. Mixed feelings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Ummm, I've heard of retro styling but push-button gear shift? That's straight out of the '50s Chrysler products! To me, though it still looks like the exterior styling isn't finished on it. Mixed feelings.The Z has had push button shift since the restyle in 2013. I love it. Cleans up the console for more useful storage. :) Edited November 22, 2015 by SteveB_TX 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra348 Report post Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) The Z has had push button shift since the restyle in 2013. I love it. Cleans up he console for more useful storage. :)In what way? I haven't seen an MKZ up close, but to me the layout of the FFH as it is now is pretty convenient. I can put my phone down under the CC panel and plug it in to charge if I want - leaving 2 cup holders and plugs in the console itself for anything else I want. Shift doesn't get in the way and in fact is perfectly placed for me to rest my hand if I choose. Edited November 22, 2015 by Cobra348 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
machoman1337 Report post Posted November 22, 2015 In what way? I haven't seen an MKZ up close, but to me the layout of the FFH as it is now is pretty convenient. I can put my phone down under the CC panel and plug it in to charge if I want - leaving 2 cup holders and plugs in the console itself for anything else I want. Shift doesn't get in the way and in fact is perfectly placed for me to rest my hand if I choose. The storage bin where the shifter would otherwise be is just much bigger than it is in normal cars. I've sat in an MKZ at the dealer. Nice looking interior and I do agree the extra storage space is useful, however I guess I like the feel of a traditional shift knob even more :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted November 23, 2015 Did she say a 245hp Hybrid? Under the hood, the Lincoln MKZ will have two engine/powertrain options: a twin-turbo 3.0-liter V6 with 400 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque with AWD and torque vectoring, or a 2.0L four-cylinder hybrid with 245 hp and front-wheel drive. Lincoln promises that both options focus on “smooth, refined power” and “quiet luxury.” http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/11/all-new-2017-lincoln-mkz-makes-surprise-debut-at-la-auto-show.htmlAny more info about this? This is the most interesting part of all this to me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted November 23, 2015 Any more info about this? This is the most interesting part of all this to me...I couldn't help myself and signed up with Lincoln for future updates, if I hear anything I'll post it.I may be in the mood for a new car in 2018 and I'm going to watch this MKzh. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Automate Report post Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Any more info about this? This is the most interesting part of all this to me... I think she miss-spoke. I think she meant to say turbo. Both the high output V6 and I4 have turbos. I found this quote in another article. Behind it, you’ll be able to get a new twin-turbocharged. 3.0-liter V6 engine rated at 400 hp and 400 lb-ft of torque, making the MKZ the most powerful Lincoln in the brand’s history. That’s for all-wheel-drive models, it’ll have 350 hp in front-wheel-drive MKZs. A 245 hp 2.0-liter turbo 4-cylinder will also be available, along with a hybrid MKZ. Video here also talks about how the new grill is coming to all Lincolns and the stop-n-go adaptive cruise control http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/11/18/2017-lincoln-mkz-gets-new-look-more-power/ Edited November 24, 2015 by Automate 2 hybridbear and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrider Report post Posted November 24, 2015 BTW, more horsepower normally means more gas consumption. 2 GrySql and corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talmy Report post Posted December 1, 2015 Ummm, I've heard of retro styling but push-button gear shift? That's straight out of the '50s Chrysler products! Let's not forget the '58 Edsel! (Also some Packards as well as some Lincolns and Mercurys). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites