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  1. On Wednesday, I had my first 2010 Mercury Milan with the CSP. To my surprise, they also did the driver's side airbag recall. So far, the results are excellent, although it's hard to tell the difference between this CSP and the age fix which I did two year ago. Today I had my other Mercury Milan done, but no driver's side airbag replacement (on order maybe next week). Both cars have about 55 thousand miles, and the average mileage was slightly over 38mpg during the summer months with the age fix.
  2. I called my dealer and gave them the CSP #22G04. They verified it applies to my two 2010 Mercury Milan Hybrids, and I set up an appointment for them to do the work. The age fix I did two years ago works very well, and I hope I get at least as good hybrid performance after I visit the dealership.
  3. FusionDiffusion, thanks for the update! Do you have a link where I can find "Application Performance Upgrade 22G04 Certain 2010 – 2012 Model Year Fusion / MKZ / Milan Hybrid Vehicles Hybrid Battery Reduced Electric Vehicle Operation BECM and PCM Software Update" so I can show the dealer. Fords should have done this when they came out with the update that resolved this problem.
  4. I also think Ford should compensate the owners for all the money they spent trying to fix a problem created by Ford's faulty programming.
  5. Thanks for the update. I will wait to get feedback to see how it works. I would assume when they reprogram the modules the new program would completely overwrite the old program and it would assume the car is 10 years. Hopefully this reprogram will take in all the factors needed to make an effective fix. I would think it should consider not only the battery age but the miles driven and the actual condition of the HV battery.
  6. You need the license to implement the change needed to reset the age of the HV battery. Without the license you will not be able to do it.
  7. I am frustrated that Ford after all the owners complaints and finally recognizing the problem months ago is taking so long to come up with a fix. It would appear that the fix is of low priority. Meanwhile an increasingly number of owners now get lower gas mileage and increased engine wear from the increase engine on time. It appear that all 2010 to 2012 Ford hybrids have this problem. I wonder if the newer models also have this computer programming flaw that will curtail hybrid use after nine years.
  8. 2010 Ford Fusion VIN 4757 Hybrid Electric Vehicle Battery Test Results - Department of Energy Conclusion: The Ford Fusion, with VIN 4757, experienced a 3.8% degradation in battery capacity and stayed below DOE targets for all aspects of the HPPC test over the duration of 160,000 miles of fleet testing. From this result I would assume the 9 year cut-off that Ford did on the hybrid function is much too conservative. Full hybrid functionality could extend for many more years without risk of HV battery problems. https://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/02/f7/batteryfusion4757_0.pdf
  9. Thanks for the information! It appears Ford may finally do something about this problem. I complained about this to Ford on many occasions since January and I even wrote my Congressman about this issue. He also sent a letter to Ford about this issue. So hopefully Ford will oil the squeaky wheel!
  10. By now some 2011 Ford Hybrids should be exhibiting the HV barttery / computer problems that the 2010 hybrid vehicles have. If they don't then perhaps Ford became aware of the problem and put in a larger capacity computer that has programming for years beyond ten years.
  11. Read this thread: http://fordfusionhybridforum.com/topic/12638-wont-run-in-ev-mode-ice-kicks-in-immediately/
  12. Another thing to check is the HV battery level. Most of the time it should be in the middle. If it is at the high (top) level most of the time you do have the same problem as the 2010 vehicles.
  13. I just spoke to my Ford regional manager. I have two 2010 Mercury Milan hybrid cars with currently 45,000 on each. Before the seven month storage for the airbag recall they were working perfectly. Now they both have problems going into the hybrid mode. The regional manager spoke to my service manager who stated according to the diagnostics everything is working correctly even though the service manager test drove one car and saw the car not going into the hybrid mode. So Ford said they cannot fix the problem. Hopefully the class action against Ford will have good results.
  14. Glad to read that you got the hybrid functionality of your car working! My question to you is can your car accelerate in the hybrid mode if you press the gas pedal very lightly in speeds under 47mph? Also where does the HV battery indicator stay previous to the repair and now after the repair? On my two 2010 hybrid vehicles both in the winter and summer the HV indicator stays most of the time all the way at the top which is not normal it should be in the middle. Also in the warmer months my cars will start in the hybrid mode and go into the hybrid mode while braking when the car speed is under 47mph. What may cars will not do is go into the hybrid mode when lightly accelerating under 47mph (which it previously did). I have 45,000 miles now on each car.
  15. Rodney, I have read other posts about restoring the HV battery by doing a computer procedure similar to what your dealer did. Some of the dealers have stated doing this could shorten the life of the HV battery. I am very happy that your dealer has found a solution that works and restores your car to a fully operational state. I believe every owner who has this problem should contact Ford Motor Company and have them come up with an "official" fix to the computer program that will restore functionality based upon the condition of the HV battery, not based only solely on the age.
  16. I believe it is a programming error on the part of Ford. According to the owners manual the HV battery should last the life of the car. The HV battery on many Ford Fusion (and Milan) cars seem to go into this mode after 9 years. This does not seem logical. As I previously stated on this forum my two 2010 Mercury Milans with 43,000 miles each have the same problem after coming out of storage due to the air bag recall. Since your car is still under warranty I believe you should contact your state officials (and perhaps through your Congressman) about Ford not honoring their warranty. Another option is to PM me and I will give you the name of my attorney who is in the process of filing a class action lawsuit.
  17. My two cars (2010) both had 43,000 miles when put into storage due to the air bag recall. Before the recall they were both working perfectly. After seven months of storage (which made it past the nine year mark) I had the HV problems. The dealership stated they can can find nothing wrong in the diagnostics and rebalanced one car. It did not work. I have to assume either the storage screwed up the cars or it is a computer software problem.
  18. The hybrid warranty is different for the hybrid components.
  19. In most states it is eight years. Also some owners have stated a rebalance works so maybe it is software or maybe it is something else. Again from my interaction with Ford they don't have a clue!
  20. This behavior as far as I know does not happen on any other hybrids. On multiple occasions I have spoken to Ford Hybrid Customer Relations and they were unaware of this behavior. If it was designed this way it should have been in the owners manual or a technical bulletin for Ford dealers. My dealer has been in contact many times with Ford and they also did not seem aware this was a "design" feature. I am hoping that this may be a software "bug" that Ford needs to fix. It does not seem to make any sense that at nine years there should be such a drastic change in hybrid performance. My two hybrid vehicles now show the charging state of the HV battery on the high level instead of in the middle where is should be.
  21. This may be a solution! Ford Fusion Hybrid Battery Age SensorAsked by GuruCBYLP Feb 15, 2019 at 06:02 PM about the 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid Question type: Maintenance & Repair My hybrid system stopped working a month ago. I took it into a dealership and eventually it was discovered that the computer sensed the battery to be over 9 years old and instructed the hybrid system not to work. If the sensor was told that the battery was only 1 year old (over riding the system), the hybrid components worked again. Is this normal? What is the reason for this? https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/Discussion-c28475_ds1000144
  22. From my owners manual: How long will my high voltage battery last? Does it need maintenance? The high voltage battery system is designed to last the life of the vehicle and requires no maintenance.
  23. Unless there is a separate category for 2013 Fusion Hybrids all 2013 Fusion Hybrids are lumped together on the CR ratings and the 2013 non-hybrid models have a different transmission. Anyway you are in the wrong part of the forum to ask about a 2013.
  24. Your car may have a thermostat problem but on my two cars the thermostat indicator goes into the mid-rage when warmed up. I do find my two cars do a bit better in the hybrid mode when the outside temperature is warmer, but I believe that has to do with the computer reading thew outside temperature along with the HV batteries maintaining a better charge when the temperature is warmer. I hope it is the thermostat replacement on your car that will get things back to normal. Let us know. Again why on two cars put into storage would both have the same problems when taken out? It would seem unlikely that the thermostat would malfunction on both cars.
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