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#1 OFFLINE   deanimalz

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Posted 07 April 2014 - 08:34 PM

Hello, I am new here, hope this is the right place to post this.

New FFHT owner, had 2011 FEH, but suffered Head on due to other driver Texting, yay me. Anyways here is the current problem I have.

 I have a new 2014 FFHT fully loaded. Driving late one night I noticed that my headlights flickered while the turn signal was turned on. Dealer had my vehicle for over a collective 2 months, last stent was month in a half, with the help of the Ford service engineer from the engineering group, they replaced everything from the battery, battery control box, body control unit 3 times, wiring harness, and main body wiring harness. New Ground, No luck, talking with the Field service rep, he stated that this shouldn't be doing this. RAV agreed to take the car back, so I ordered a new one, and it does the exact same thing. Talking with the Dealer Engineer he said that while they had my vehcile for the month period two others came in, they tried the samething, and theirs was ok. Is my luck just that bad, or is there something going on here. BTW both cars were made in Mexico, don't know if that helps. My daughter has the same car, and hers functions normally.









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#2 OFFLINE   hermans

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 05:10 AM

I haven't experienced this with either of my cars.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:08 AM

We haven't experienced this either and you're the first person to post this issue.

Very strange that it's happened to you on two different cars.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:43 AM

I would assume since it spend that long at the dealer you didn't replace standard lamps with LEDs correct or any other modifications?

Just for the record I haven't noticed a flickering either.
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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:20 AM

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:12 PM

No, I didn't replace or modify anything on the car. Lucky too,  otherwise they would have no problems saying that it was something that I did. 

The flickering is very settle, the way I demonstrated this to the sales manager was to , start car, turn on the headlights, turn left or right blinker on. had manager stand in front of the headlights, (Left side seems to be the worst.) and cover up the orange lights from the turn signal so all that was hitting him on the pant leg was the headlights. . Per the FSE it was every second or third cycle of the turn signal, and that  there was a draw, or low power drain. They had some what tied it back to the BCM, hence the reason it was replaced 3 times. Initial power up on BCM (Shiny new) no problem, no flicker, everything good. BCM goes into sleep mode, come back online with ignition, flickering problem comes back. 

 

By the way how can you tell if your Fusion has the newest code update, In the new vehicle on Empower display, there are no brackets around ev blue curve bar .



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 01:15 PM

By the way how can you tell if your Fusion has the newest code update, In the new vehicle on Empower display, there are no brackets around ev blue curve bar .

What do you mean? How does it show the threshold then? Can you please post a pic?


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 04:30 PM

Ok, I was having a blonde moment, I was on enlightened not on empowered. Before I realized that, I had remembered reading that before the update the vehcle's engine was always on past 65 and after the update it was set to 85. So after I verified MPH on the freeway today, I doubled checked the display setting, and of course I noticed my error .

but to answer your question, while CE is running its a solid white bell curved bar, and while in EV its blue with no threshold hold indicator, both of which indicating amount of power being applied. 

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 05:35 PM

So there are no changes to the Empower screen in your car?

 

Ok, I was having a blonde moment, I was on enlightened not on empowered. Before I realized that, I had remembered reading that before the update the vehcle's engine was always on past 65 and after the update it was set to 85. So after I verified MPH on the freeway today, I doubled checked the display setting, and of course I noticed my error .

but to answer your question, while CE is running its a solid white bell curved bar, and while in EV its blue with no threshold hold indicator, both of which indicating amount of power being applied.


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Posted 08 April 2014 - 10:48 PM

No, not that I have seen anyways.



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Posted 09 April 2014 - 06:58 PM

That looks like an Energi model, not a HyTi.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 09:38 AM

... RAV agreed to take the car back, so I ordered a new one, and it does the exact same thing. Talking with the Dealer Engineer he said that while they had my vehcile for the month period two others came in, they tried the samething, and theirs was ok. Is my luck just that bad, or is there something going on here.  ...

 

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Let me see how I can help. Send me a PM with your name, phone number, VIN, mileage, and dealer info. I'll take a look.

 

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:37 AM

Sorry for the delay PM sent, thank you Ashley



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:05 PM

Did you get any resolution to this issue?  I'm seeing the same thing in my 2014 Fusion Energi SE.  I think it's only the left headlight flickering when the left turn signal is on, but it also might be that I somehow make more left turns than right turns at traffic lights behind other vehicles (when I typically notice it).  It's pretty subtle - I wasn't sure if I was just seeing a strange reflection of the turn signal the first couple of times.  And I don't think it does it every time.


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Posted 12 August 2014 - 06:55 AM

On the 2G Fusion board, someone posted that they changed their light bulbs for LED bulbs and noticed the same problem.  An answer was posted...

 

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get some capicitors from TRS and that should solve the flicker issue. they are only like $15 each i think
 
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Posted 12 August 2014 - 07:48 AM

 

On the 2G Fusion board, someone posted that they changed their light bulbs for LED bulbs and noticed the same problem.  An answer was posted...

 

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get some capicitors from TRS and that should solve the flicker issue. they are only like $15 each i think
 
Couldn't hurt to try...

 

That is "fixing" something that is not really a "problem" in the first place.

 

A very slight flicker is not something to worry about and probably exists on a lot of cars.

I suspect it would be even more noticeable when the headlights are in "DRL" mode.

 

If the flicker is really pronounced and obvious, you should be looking for a loose connection (ground?) or a problem with the battery.........and NOT trying to fix it with an add-on modification.



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Posted 12 August 2014 - 08:34 PM

That is "fixing" something that is not really a "problem" in the first place.

 

A very slight flicker is not something to worry about and probably exists on a lot of cars.

I suspect it would be even more noticeable when the headlights are in "DRL" mode.

 

If the flicker is really pronounced and obvious, you should be looking for a loose connection (ground?) or a problem with the battery.........and NOT trying to fix it with an add-on modification.

Did you not read the thread before blasting my response?

 

The OP had his car at the dealer for many weeks, they couldn't fix the problem.  I only offered a simple and cheap solution to his "not a problem".


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Posted 13 August 2014 - 11:37 AM

Did you not read the thread before blasting my response?

 

 

How exactly does my reply qualify as "blasting" ?

 

The fact remains that all the "fix" did was make the owner feel better.

It didn't really solve a "problem" that needed "fixing".

 

I meant no disrespect by disagreeing with your conclusion.......and certainly don't want to hint that you shouldn't have posted it.

Just trying to keep things in the proper perspective here.


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Posted 18 August 2014 - 12:13 AM

My 14 fusion hybrid titanium is doing the same thing. Dealer says it normal. It's crap

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 03:54 PM

Mine does this too.  Doesn't really bother me except at red lights with a car in front of me...that's when I notice it.  I'm too afraid to do anything about it because the car runs so well otherwise.  if someone finds an easy solution, let me know.

 

Also doesn't seem to be affected by the state of charge of the HVB.


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