lolder Report post Posted February 23, 2013 This forum seems to be mostly 2013 FFH and my experience is with the 2010. Many of the principles and operation are identical and are common to all the eCVT hybrids but I don't profess to know everything about a car I don't have. There is probably nothing wrong with most of the 2013's with the exception of acdii's 2013 not doing as well as his 2010. That is puzzling. The only thing that I am considering is that the smaller, lighter 2013 ICE is run even less than the 2010 and is difficult to keep warm in the cold. All hybrids have this problem but Ford shuts down the ICE more often than anybody. With the new LiIon battery, they probably load up the ICE with charging load even more when it's running which is actually the objective to only run the ICE when it is well loaded and the BSFC is at a minimum. All vehicles have a bad cold weather penalty and it takes the same energy in any vehicle to keep everything warm. That energy is a much higher percent in a hybrid and the reduction in mpg is much greater. Pray for spring, dry roads, calm winds and summer fuel. I can loiter around town here in the south in spring and fall and coax 70 mpg by P & G ing the 2010. I expect the 2013 to do the same. 1 B25Nut reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 24, 2013 I HATE MY Touchpad Had just about finished typing a response and my paml touched it and sent me back a page! ARRGGHHH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 24, 2013 Trying this again lolder hit it on the head. I am pretty much convinced the problems I have with mine relate directly with the cooling system. Once someone mentioned that the engine may be running cold I focused my attention to the engine temps on the Scangauge, and sure enough, during my daily commute they pretty much stayed below 170*, way too cold to get a good burn, which would also explain the plug fouling. When I mentioned this to my service manager and the Ford engineer it drew blank stares, and shrugs, and the ubiquitous we see nothing wrong. I asked about the shutters and found their expensive computer has no diagnostics for the shutter system so unless they visually look at them at highway speeds, they have no idea of they are open or closed. In the 2010 it sits right at 190* and gets there quickly too. In half the distance it takes the 13 to get to 160* the 10 is at 190*. However, when I mention this to Ford, their corporate response is, the 2013 is nothing like the 2010. I see, so the technology of the 13 is so far different than any other car out there in that it can get a complete fuel burn at 160* where in any other car it needs to be near 200* or better. And now you know MY frustration! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites