Hybrid or Energi?

[91er]

After taking everyone's points into consideration I wound up with a '15 Energi Titanium in Platinum Tri Coat Metallic, Ceramic leather, nav, moonroof, and a heated steering wheel. Total cost after rebates and with financing was $1700 below invoice.

 

After Day #1 of a typical grind I couldn't really be happier. I started the day with a full charge and a zeroed trip odometer. I plugged it in a little here and there at home (110V only for now) and at the end of the day I had driven 101.8m, averaged 68.6mpg, 70.6 EV, and 8.8kWh. My old Honda Pilot would have burned 6.8 gallons doing that!

 

It's a great looking car and best of all my wife loves it as do my kids. Q: What's is the 8.8kWh number on the trip telling me?

 

Thanks again everyone!

[corncobs]

Congrats on your new ride 91er. Enjoy the comfort of electric driving.

[murphy]

Q: What's is the 8.8kWh number on the trip telling me?

 

 

 

The car used 8.8kWh of energy from the battery during that trip.

[91er]

 

The car used 8.8kWh of energy from the battery during that trip.

That's kind of what I thought but is that really a meaningful number? That would mean that it went through the approximately 5.5 kWh hours from the initial overnight charge and then the remainder was what was added via AC during the daytime plug-ins plus what was generated through brake energy/regeneration while driving. In other words, outside of trivia, why would I care? I'd be more interested in a number that told me exactly how many kWh's came out of the AC cord and into my car per trip. kWh x $.131 = total electrical cost per day for me. Is that number recorded somewhere? Thanks again...y'all rock and Happy Easter!

 

As a sidenote, Day #2 with this car was a boon. I drove the morning round trip to school with the kids (@48F) and it's a 21.8m trip. I did it in EV mode and still had 4 miles of EV range leftover!

Edited April 4, 2015 by 91er

[murphy]

The only way to get the exact amount of energy you got from the wall is to install an external kWh meter. I have one, that cost $100., permanently installed in the feed to my 240 volt charger. For the 120 volt portable charger get a "Kill-A-Watt" that plugs into the 120 volt 15 amp outlet and then plug the charger into the "Kill-A-Watt".

More power is drawn from the wall than the car reports due to the inefficiency of converting 120 volt or 240 volt power to close to 400 volts DC to charge the battery.

 

The range will get better as the temperature climbs into the 70s and 80s.

 

Are you aware of the Energi forum? Click the "Fusion Energi Forum" link at the top of the page to get there.

[hybridbear]

That's kind of what I thought but is that really a meaningful number? That would mean that it went through the approximately 5.5 kWh hours from the initial overnight charge and then the remainder was what was added via AC during the daytime plug-ins plus what was generated through brake energy/regeneration while driving. In other words, outside of trivia, why would I care? I'd be more interested in a number that told me exactly how many kWh's came out of the AC cord and into my car per trip. kWh x $.131 = total electrical cost per day for me. Is that number recorded somewhere? Thanks again...y'all rock and Happy Easter!

 

As a sidenote, Day #2 with this car was a boon. I drove the morning round trip to school with the kids (@48F) and it's a 21.8m trip. I did it in EV mode and still had 4 miles of EV range leftover!

That number is supposed to represent how much energy came out of the battery. When you go down a mountain and get lots of regen that number will spin backward. In this sense it does represent how much energy came out of the wall, not accounting for charging losses.

[jeff_h]

That number is supposed to represent how much energy came out of the battery. When you go down a mountain and get lots of regen that number will spin backward. In this sense it does represent how much energy came out of the wall, not accounting for charging losses.

 

And when you take a long drive with lots of hills and use the EV switch to regen a lot back into the HVB, you can get a pretty high number when the HVB gets all the way charged again -- it would appear to be a "no way José" number but when taking into account the number of kWh that werre involved in the previous run of the HVB charge, it shows a nice high number. But on the other hand, then go take a steady 60 MPH drive on EV only until empty and watch it only get up to about an estimated 15 miles from the next charge.

 

[hybridbear]

Absolutely true. We've been doing lots of city driving in warmer weather and have seen range estimates of 27-29 miles. This is realistic if we're staying off the freeway. But if you do even a few miles on the freeway it can quickly shave off those extra miles of range.

[jtbogus]

How does the ENERGI warm the cabin without starting the ICE?

[hybridbear]

How does the ENERGI warm the cabin without starting the ICE?

Electric heater.

[acdii]

Jealous, only cause its an energi. OTOH I doubt having an Energi would save me anything with my daily commute as it is 95% highway, the other 5% I drive mostly in EV anyway.

 

Whats sad is my wife is now getting better MPG in her Focus than I am in the FFH, only because of a heavy head wind this past week going home, I only got 35 MPG this last tank.