GrySql Report post Posted March 14, 2015 Lawsuit says car hackers can take over functions of a car without the automaker knowing it.http://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2015/car-hacking-lawsuit-ford-gm-toyota.shtml Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyHzNV Report post Posted March 14, 2015 (edited) Saw a demo of this I think on 60 minutes a couple weeks ago or maybe it was 20/20, one of those kinds of show. They masked the car so you couldn't see what make it was, but they definitely took control of the car and there was nothing the driver could do about it. It was pretty interesting and totally doable for someone with the equipment and know-how. Go to YouTube and search on "car hacking". You'll find lots to watch! Edited March 14, 2015 by TonyHzNV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted March 15, 2015 Has anyone been able to hack a car without being plugged in to the OBDII port? If not, then this is just media frenzy and not a real story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Automate Report post Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Has anyone been able to hack a car without being plugged in to the OBDII port? If not, then this is just media frenzy and not a real story.Yes, they have. Watch here http://www.cbsnews.com/news/car-hacked-on-60-minutes/ It has been done using a cellular connection. There is a known bug in some of the radios used for services like OnStar and SYNC. Also read this http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/2015/02/08/report-cars-vulnerable-wireless-hacking/23094215/ Edited March 15, 2015 by Automate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyHzNV Report post Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Yes, they have. Watch here http://www.cbsnews.com/news/car-hacked-on-60-minutes/ It has been done using a cellular connection. There is a known bug in some of the radios used for services like OnStar and SYNC.I believe in our cars it's known as the Telematics Module. Automate is right. I saw people steering a car by tilting a cell phone back and forth as if it were a game. They also took control of brake systems, accelerators and other functions. All wirelessly. Edited March 15, 2015 by TonyHzNV Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lolder Report post Posted March 15, 2015 It's media frenzy. I don't believe anybody has hacked wirelessly into an unmodified car. The demo by a German hacker a while back was rigged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Automate Report post Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) It's media frenzy. I don't believe anybody has hacked wirelessly into an unmodified car. The demo by a German hacker a while back was rigged. Do you think the 60 Minutes story I linked above is rigged? BTW it was done by DARPA http://www.darpa.mil/default.aspxDefense Advanced Research Projects Agency on a Chevy Impala with OnStar Edited March 15, 2015 by Automate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TonyHzNV Report post Posted March 16, 2015 Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency on a Chevy Impala with OnStarYeah, you know the guys who REALLY DID invent the Internet! Sorry, Al! :) 1 acdii reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted March 16, 2015 Sync requires a cell phone BT connection for the 2 way communications, while OnStar has a built in Cellular modem. I would feel safer in the Ford with Sync than with the GM with Onstar, I can see those getting hacked a lot easier than Sync. As I see it, only those cars with Park Assist would be able to be steered remotely, though the Hybrid brakes, I can see that being bypassed on any of them. That is scary since the parking brake is electric, and wont engage if in drive. With the Fords, since it only uses BlueTooth, they have to be within 300 feet of you to hack it. While that could happen, I know this because I was following my wife and my phone was paired with her car while I was in mine, the phone was paired to both cars, and I called her and freaked her out because it came on in her car when she answered, she heard herself come over the car speakers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted March 16, 2015 The Energi models have the TCU with an AT&T cellular connection. While CBS covered up the car it was pretty obvious that it was a Chevy Impala. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
