Thom Bell Report post Posted December 9, 2014 I'm new to this forum. I joined because I'm looking into the Ford Fusion Hybrid or Lincoln MkZ Hybrid for my next daily driver. I've had three hybrid vehicles, two EV and two alternate fuel vehicles. So, while new to Ford's technology, I'm not new to the culture. My current daily driver is a 2011 Toyota Prius 3. I bought it January 8, 2012 (the King's birthday, uh huh) and have put over 75k miles on it since then. I'm a domestic car fan. I've always tried to buy domestic, however when I purchased my hybrids, the US alternatives were not there. That has now changed. When I purchased the Prius, my daughter said that I lost a hundred cool points. I'm not sure which impressed me more, that I had a hundred cool points or that the Prius took away that many. Right now, I'm considering the Lincoln MkZ Hybrid, the Ford Fusion Hybrid, or the Toyota Avalon Hybrid. I'm going to spend some time reading and absorbing some knowledge from the forum. I found the forum via a search where I was trying to ascertain the difference between the SE and the Titanium models and whether it is worth it. I am thrifty but I like my gadgets. Hybrids Owned2000 Honda Insight MT2008 Toyota Prius III2011 Toyota Prius 3 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Welcome to the Forum!There is lots of info here but remember that many of the problems you'll find were with the 2013 and some early 2014 models.The late 2014's and the 2015's that are showing up here seem to have had most of the teething problems worked out. If you have questions don't be afraid to ask, we have numerous MKZh and Energi owners here too. Edited December 9, 2014 by GrySql 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted December 9, 2014 I'm a domestic car fan. I've always tried to buy domestic, however when I purchased my hybrids, the US alternatives were not there. That has now changed. You maybe already aware of this, but the FFH is manufactured only in Mexico. I always strive to support/buy domestic brands also, but it is becoming more muddled and confusing when it comes to classifying a car as "domestic" or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robertlane Report post Posted December 10, 2014 I'm new to this forum. I joined because I'm looking into the Ford Fusion Hybrid or Lincoln MkZ Hybrid for my next daily driver. I've had three hybrid vehicles, two EV and two alternate fuel vehicles. So, while new to Ford's technology, I'm not new to the culture. My current daily driver is a 2011 Toyota Prius 3. I bought it January 8, 2012 (the King's birthday, uh huh) and have put over 75k miles on it since then. I'm a domestic car fan. I've always tried to buy domestic, however when I purchased my hybrids, the US alternatives were not there. That has now changed. When I purchased the Prius, my daughter said that I lost a hundred cool points. I'm not sure which impressed me more, that I had a hundred cool points or that the Prius took away that many. Right now, I'm considering the Lincoln MkZ Hybrid, the Ford Fusion Hybrid, or the Toyota Avalon Hybrid. I'm going to spend some time reading and absorbing some knowledge from the forum. I found the forum via a search where I was trying to ascertain the difference between the SE and the Titanium models and whether it is worth it. I am thrifty but I like my gadgets. Hybrids Owned2000 Honda Insight MT2008 Toyota Prius III2011 Toyota Prius 3 Welcome to the Ford Fusion Hybrid community. We hope that you'll join us. You maybe already aware of this, but the FFH is manufactured only in Mexico. I always strive to support/buy domestic brands also, but it is becoming more muddled and confusing when it comes to classifying a car as "domestic" or not. I think that you cannot simply export your products all over the world and not make them locally. The quality between Fusions made in different places are really identical. 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrider Report post Posted December 10, 2014 You maybe already aware of this, but the FFH is manufactured only in Mexico. I always strive to support/buy domestic brands also, but it is becoming more muddled and confusing when it comes to classifying a car as "domestic" or not. At least our cars didn't have to be shipped overseas to get to us. And the cars from domestic companies seem to be less expensive as a whole. Plus I bet the parts for domestic cars are, in general, less expensive too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted December 10, 2014 At least our cars didn't have to be shipped overseas to get to us. And the cars from domestic companies seem to be less expensive as a whole. Plus I bet the parts for domestic cars are, in general, less expensive too. Even that's a pretty broad generalization. Did you know the Ford Fiesta is made in Mexico, but for most east coast deliveries it is actually shipped by sea from Veracruz, Mexico to New Jersey or Baltimore? South Korean cars are generally less expensive as a whole while Ford's average transaction prices are higher than the industry average. Parts prices typically correlate to sales volumes, so any car that sells in large volume (or has a lot of parts that break!) tend to have lower parts prices. 2 hybridbear and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom Bell Report post Posted December 10, 2014 You maybe already aware of this, but the FFH is manufactured only in Mexico. I always strive to support/buy domestic brands also, but it is becoming more muddled and confusing when it comes to classifying a car as "domestic" or not. Thanks to NAFTA, we can say that built in Mexico is pretty close to home. Welcome to the Ford Fusion Hybrid community. We hope that you'll join us. I think that you cannot simply export your products all over the world and not make them locally. The quality between Fusions made in different places are really identical. They "assemble" Kia's right here in Georgia but that still doesn't get them that coveted number for the first digit of the VIN. At least our cars didn't have to be shipped overseas to get to us. And the cars from domestic companies seem to be less expensive as a whole. Plus I bet the parts for domestic cars are, in general, less expensive too. That Ford nameplate sort of makes us feel we are buying American. Even if the car did come from somewhere else. 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thom Bell Report post Posted December 10, 2014 Even that's a pretty broad generalization. Did you know the Ford Fiesta is made in Mexico, but for most east coast deliveries it is actually shipped by sea from Veracruz, Mexico to New Jersey or Baltimore? South Korean cars are generally less expensive as a whole while Ford's average transaction prices are higher than the industry average. Parts prices typically correlate to sales volumes, so any car that sells in large volume (or has a lot of parts that break!) tend to have lower parts prices. Parts that break often. That sounds like my Yugo days. When you looked the car up in a repair parts manual, it just said replace entire vehicle as a unit. 2 corncobs and acdii reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites