higheroctave32 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 So with the eventual switch of the in car voice and touch technology to QNX, I am curious if the current cars out there are able to support the software and if we will also be included.I would like to believe so, as we are running windows code which would imply standardized hardware to some extent. Does anyone have any insights on this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
md13ffhguy Report post Posted September 30, 2014 Insight, no, but my intuition tells me this just ain't gonna happen. Doesn't matter what's possible... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted September 30, 2014 Considering how Applink has made it to MFT(NOT) I doubt this will ever happen. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted September 30, 2014 Considering how Applink has made it to MFT(NOT) I doubt this will ever happen.+1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted September 30, 2014 There will be two versions of the QNX system. One for the new hardware in the new cars and one to update older cars with the old hardware. They may not be available at the same time though. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmt1971 Report post Posted September 30, 2014 The fact that they seem to not even be pushing the 3.7 update to 2013 cars does not lead to optimism . . . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy Report post Posted September 30, 2014 The fact that they seem to not even be pushing the 3.7 update to 2013 cars does not lead to optimism . . .I've been down this road before. I got an update 3 months after I got my 2010 Hybrid and then nothing more in the next 4 years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted October 6, 2014 Waldo, on 30 Sept 2014 - 06:48 AM, said:There will be two versions of the QNX system. One for the new hardware in the new cars and one to update older cars with the old hardware. They may not be available at the same time though.Do you have any information to substantiate this? Your statement is written as fact. I'd like to believe it, but it's hard without any substantiation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted October 7, 2014 Do you have any information to substantiate this? Your statement is written as fact. I'd like to believe it, but it's hard without any substantiation. I can tell you the source, or I can tell you the information, but not both... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billford Report post Posted October 8, 2014 I can tell you the source, or I can tell you the information, but not both... Source? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted October 8, 2014 Watch it, You guys do know Waldo is with the FIA! 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted October 8, 2014 Is it time to break out the popcorn and sodas? ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted October 8, 2014 I don't know if QNX is really the next step. According to Google, Android Auto will be in some Fords in the future. Whether or not that includes a few models or all models, not sure. http://www.android.com/auto/ Scroll to the bottom to see which manufacturers are on board. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
md13ffhguy Report post Posted October 8, 2014 I can tell you the source, or I can tell you the information, but not both...Tell him the source and me the information. ;) 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billford Report post Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) I don't know if QNX is really the next step. According to Google, Android Auto will be in some Fords in the future. Whether or not that includes a few models or all models, not sure. http://www.android.com/auto/ Scroll to the bottom to see which manufacturers are on board. I can see the day when Android touchscreens have popups and ads scrolling across the screen...not that its a bad thing... maybe the ads will keep the cost of the system low... Edited October 9, 2014 by billford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KLH Report post Posted October 9, 2014 This thread is funny. Why would Ford incur costs to change something that doesn't bring in more revenue? Now with that being said, i'd be impressed if someone here would figure out how _we_ could replace MFT with QNX. Still, is there anything to indicate that running QNX would be better than MFT? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted October 9, 2014 Much like the mobile phone XDA scene, there are community members who have the skills to update versions, squash bugs and add features to MFT. It's only a matter of time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted October 9, 2014 Has Ford released a SDK for MFT? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted October 10, 2014 No. It's well past time to for us to take control of our cars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arob Report post Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) No. It's well past time to for us to take control of our cars.Amen to that! I would like the option to bring my own 7 inch mini tablet, be it iOS or Droid. Simply plug in to an in dash dock that only allows dock/undock when key is in the ignition (theft deter). When in the dock and car is running, it has access to climate controls as well as device specific car play type apps for entertainment, phone, messages, etc. Voice control is dependent on whatever device you bring, interface is what you are accustomed to. New device model comes out, swap in new for old. New OS, new or updated apps, download and use. No more dependence on a car manufacturer which are all notoriously slow and proprietary about their in car systems to come up with updates. Is that really too much to ask? I have far more confidence in the Apple/Google infrastructure to provide a safe and relevant experience than I do auto companies. Heck, I would even be willing to pay more for the flexibility. All the manufacturer has to do is provide an app or API to interface to the car functions, and a generic docking mechanism and vehicle interface module. Edited October 10, 2014 by arob 1 Bryan Burch reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted October 10, 2014 Is that really too much to ask? Yes. What you are forgetting is that the automotive industry is governed by many, many regulations. There are many laws that prevent automakers doing certain things with regards to what's visible to driver's. Automakers have to follow those laws. What's still not really well defined in the industry is where the automaker's responsibility stops. But if an automaker provides a system that allows users to use their own tablets/devices to do things that are against the laws (like watching movies and so on), then the automaker can be held liable. So unless the automaker has a guarantee that you can't do anything illegal with the system as they provide it, you're not going to get what you're asking for. 3 acdii, hybridbear and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy Report post Posted October 10, 2014 Now with that being said, i'd be impressed if someone here would figure out how _we_ could replace MFT with QNX. Still, is there anything to indicate that running QNX would be better than MFT?QNX is a real time operating system. MFT is an application that runs on an operating system. The current operating system comes from Microsoft. If Microsoft is thrown out and replaced with QNX it will be the same MFT application running on QNX assuming it was written in a high level language that can be compiled to run on QNX. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted October 10, 2014 MFT is crap--pretty much in line with every other manufacturer out there not named Tesla. My 3 year bumper to bumper will probably string me along until FOMOCO decides MFT is no longer supported/updated. Time to go all William Wallace..break out hexrays and dig in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted October 10, 2014 BTW, I laughed at the "Customer Success Stories" at the bottom http://www.microsoft.com/windowsembedded/en-us/auto.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted October 10, 2014 http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/A/1/0A1E07D6-7562-4566-AACF-E04DF4FF8879/A%20Technical%20Companion%20to%20Windows%20Embedded%20Automotive%207%20(final).pdf Windows Embedded Automotive 7 info. Shows what it can do, not necessarily the same as what is enabled on MFT. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
