terrible 48.4 mpg

[mike72]

Well I'm feeling that trading in my 2013 FFH which was getting 59.3 MPG for my new 2014 FFH might have been a mistake.

 

So far I am averaging 48.4 in 2 fill ups.

I am on my 3rd fill up and geting 49.2 but still a far cry.

I don't remember if the 2013 was doing the same when it was new, but I do hope tthat the 2014 just has to be broken in.

I'm at alittle over 2K .

I traded the 2013 in with 57K so it was very much broken in.

 

Does any one know what breakin period is?

 

The 2014 has 18 inch wheels which may be something.

I also noticed that the 2014 is much stiffer feeling than the 2013 and I also feel that the 2013 rolled much easier.

 

[md13ffhguy]

You weren't getting 59 MPG overall in your 13. That's a misrepresentation. It actually seems like you're doing ok in the 14, considering it's still very new. I couldn't tell you what the break-in period I experienced with my car was, since I'm sure that the initial improvements were more associated with me learning to drive it. I've been driving a 13 for almost a year and am doing very well with the mileage. Yes, I've hit 59 on occasion on, but my dash reads 51, while my actual experience (meaning actual mileage and fuel purchased) as recorded in fuelly is 48. We just purchased a 14 for my wife, and I specifically looked for one without the wheel upgrade. Feature-wise, her car is virtually the same as my car, but the biggest difference will be the driver. We'll see how she does. It's interesting to note that the OEM 17" tires are categorized as Low Rolling Resistance, while the 18" tires are not.

[corncobs]

The 18" wheel upgrade will definitely cost you some MPG. There are a few members that went thru the same expierience. Hybridbear for example did very well with the 17" and noticed a MPG "hit" right away with his second and 18" equipped FFH.

 

I'll take the look of the 18" over those few MPG any day and you are doing very well @ 48. Many would be very happy to get this on a occasional fill up.

[mike72]

Don't get me wrong 48 aint bad.

But I would love to be closer to where my 2013 was.

I was doing mid 50 for 2 months, with high of 59.4.

So 48 is not good enough in my eyes.

It's like earning 150k and then changing jobs and making 125k , still good but you get used to better.

[GrySql]

I can't believe I'm reading this... Quite a switch - in a good way.

Ford is disappointing a buyer because the car only gets 4 mpg better than current EPA mileage and not 10 mpg over EPA like the last FFH.

 

Did you keep complete mpg records of each tankful that the 2013 used, starting with the very first tank?

If not, how do you know this new 2014 is getting different mpg's than the 2013 did when new?

 

BTW, you need to buy Lottery tickets, you're on a roll. ;)

[hybridbear]

Well I'm feeling that trading in my 2013 FFH which was getting 59.3 MPG for my new 2014 FFH might have been a mistake.

 

So far I am averaging 48.4 in 2 fill ups.

I am on my 3rd fill up and geting 49.2 but still a far cry.

I don't remember if the 2013 was doing the same when it was new, but I do hope tthat the 2014 just has to be broken in.

I'm at alittle over 2K .

I traded the 2013 in with 57K so it was very much broken in.

 

Does any one know what breakin period is?

 

The 2014 has 18 inch wheels which may be something.

I also noticed that the 2014 is much stiffer feeling than the 2013 and I also feel that the 2013 rolled much easier.

 

It's the 18-inch tires. From our experience they cost you about 3-4 MPG on the interstate and about 10 MPG in city driving. Tire rolling resistance is a larger portion of the total power needed to propel the car at low speeds which is why the tires make a bigger impact on city MPG. At freeway speeds the big force you have to overcome is wind resistance which is why the increased rolling resistance causes less of an MPG reduction on the freeway.

[Easy Rider]

Well I'm feeling that trading in my 2013 FFH which was getting 59.3 MPG for my new 2014 FFH might have been a mistake.

 

I think the 59.3 figure is a myth, plain and simple.

Was this just from the onboard computer or was it from a manual calculation ?

Either way, it is possible that your Odometer was off in the "13.

 

My Prius C struggles to maintain an average like that.

[md13ffhguy]

If you've read his other posts, he did claim a 59 MPG tank just before trading in his 13. Around the same time, I achieved about 58 on a tank. I'm assuming perfectly optimal conditions for each of us. Most of this summer, I've hovered around the low-to-mid 50s - documented in Fuelly. Of course, as we all know, the dash figures that many of us report for per-tank MPGs are usually slightly high. Still, not bad, but no, I don't think he meant to imply that he achieved this 100% of the time.

[Easy Rider]

I'm assuming perfectly optimal conditions for each of us.

I think that's a really good bet; more like a sure thing.

 

But the "casual" reader of posts like that might not assume the same thing.

 

Given that a "full tank" would give you about 500 miles, I think achieving "optimal conditions" for that long of a distance is a good trick in itself.

[hybridbear]

I think that's a really good bet; more like a sure thing.

 

But the "casual" reader of posts like that might not assume the same thing.

 

Given that a "full tank" would give you about 500 miles, I think achieving "optimal conditions" for that long of a distance is a good trick in itself.

If you click on my Fuelly badge from the black FFH you'll see that I had many tanks above 50 MPG. I even had 55+ tanks. If I had ever had a tank of just me driving I could have made 60 MPG on a tank, but somehow my wife always drove enough to tear it down to 55 or so.

[md13ffhguy]

But the "casual" reader of posts like that might not assume the same thing.

Which is why I made the second post in the thread. No need to pile on days later. ;)

Edited September 12, 2014 by md13ffhguy

[Nmadole]

.... My lifetime average at 27,000 miles is 31 MPG .... Ford says it is "normal" .... Thats what I get for buying a first production run car

Edited September 12, 2014 by Nmadole

[Easy Rider]

but somehow my wife always drove enough to tear it down to 55 or so.

Kind of funny; it works that way at my house too......with both cars. :)

[Easy Rider]

Which is why I made the second post in the thread. No need to pile on days later. ;)

And no need to see malice where the real cause was simple stupidity.

It is a bad habit to reply to a post without FIRST reading the whole thread.......but apparently a lot of us do that.

After all, those two mouse clicks it takes to get back are SOOOooo cumbersome. :)

[My2cents]

.... My lifetime average at 27,000 miles is 31 MPG .... Ford says it is "normal" .... Thats what I get for buying a first production run car

Why do you think your lifetime MPG is significantly lower than what others have posted?

[acdii]

Why do you think your lifetime MPG is significantly lower than what others have posted?

His car was built around the same time my first one was, and there were a batch of cars that do have something not quite right with them and just cannot achieve good gas mileage. Ford is saying there is nothing wrong with them, saying its the driver, yet they are speechless when the second car I got can get 47 MPG with me driving it, when the first one barely got 34. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the luxury of a dealer who will back him up and do what it takes to get him out of that car, but he sure does like it! :)

[machoman1337]

Lol complaining about a figure that beats the original EPA rating pre-revision? First world problems :P

[My2cents]

His car was built around the same time my first one was, and there were a batch of cars that do have something not quite right with them and just cannot achieve good gas mileage. Ford is saying there is nothing wrong with them, saying its the driver, yet they are speechless when the second car I got can get 47 MPG with me driving it, when the first one barely got 34. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the luxury of a dealer who will back him up and do what it takes to get him out of that car, but he sure does like it! :)

 

Wow quite a deviation with no apparent explanation!

[acdii]

Yep one of the great mysteries of the universe. It is a real head scratcher in that some of us got a car that can't get anywhere near what it should no matter what we try, yet nothing shows up on the scanners as a fault. Some part in that batch of cars is putting out false readings is my guess. When I questioned the MPG on the first one I had, before taking it to the dealer, I wanted to rule out the temps, so drove it to Florida. Even in 70* weather I could not get it above 40 MPG. The HyTi I replaced it with, I can get 50 in that weather all day long.

 

What is still puzzling is the fact that all 4 plugs fouled in that first one at 4500 miles,and yet, no problem was found. If it were a batch of bad plugs, you would hear of more people with fouled plugs, but I don't recall anyone else having that happen to theirs. In any case, that is in the past and the one I had built for me has been great from day one.

[DeeCee]

Another thing I remember was your stating the car would not coast very well. This indicates something in the system was acting as a continual drag contributing to the low mileage. Too bad Ford isn't interested enough to take one or mpore of these early bad performers and find the root cause.

[acdii]

Another thing I remember was your stating the car would not coast very well. This indicates something in the system was acting as a continual drag contributing to the low mileage. Too bad Ford isn't interested enough to take one or mpore of these early bad performers and find the root cause.

I had forgotten that one, yes it did slow down quickly. It would drop 5 MPH just moving my foot off the accelerator and to the floor. If i put it in neutral it would coast OK, so I know it was the drivetrain doing it.

[Waldo]

Another thing I remember was your stating the car would not coast very well. This indicates something in the system was acting as a continual drag contributing to the low mileage. Too bad Ford isn't interested enough to take one or mpore of these early bad performers and find the root cause.

 

Just because you didn't read it on the internet doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[murphy]

I had forgotten that one, yes it did slow down quickly. It would drop 5 MPH just moving my foot off the accelerator and to the floor. If i put it in neutral it would coast OK, so I know it was the drivetrain doing it.

That sounds like regenerative braking was engaged all of the time.

Edited September 23, 2014 by murphy