milleron Report post Posted May 23, 2014 I've had an interesting experience over the last 12 months with getting song information to display on the dash screen when streaming music via Bluetooth from my Android phone. It's a problem because I have MFT which mysteriously is incompatible with SYNC apps as most of you know.At first, a year ago, nothing from any music service displayed. I was able to pause, play, and skip from touch-screen or steering-wheel controls, but no artist or track titles appeared.When Pandora came out with version 5.0 of their Android app, the artist and track titles appeared.When the phone was upgraded to Android 4.3, instead of making things better, it destroyed Pandora's ability to transmit metadata -- back to square zero.About a month ago, without any known upgrades, Rhapsody began displaying artist and track title on the big center-stack screen (but not on the small screen to the right of the speedometer.Pandora still displays nothing.My phone is supposed to get another upgrade to Android 4.4 from Verizon, but Verizon is always the very last to deploy these upgrades.Android 4.4 is finally supposed to incorporate "Bluetooth MAP" functionality in the operating system, independent of what the various wireless carriers choose to do with the OS. Theoretically, that should solve this problem for all Android phones and My Fort Touch. My question is: Is anyone with an Android device that already has 4.4 KitKat able to tell me how it's working with displaying Bluetooth metadata??? If it manages to transmit this information to MFT no matter what source the phone is tapping, I may keep my Samsung Galaxy S III. (If KitKat doesn't fix this stupid problem, I'm dumping the Android phone in favor of an iPhone.) 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted May 23, 2014 Only artist name/song through bluetooth streaming google music on my VZW MotoX, Android 4.4.2. I want my album art as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taullinis Report post Posted May 23, 2014 As a user of a Nexus 5 (4.4.something) I can tell you that for Pandora (which is all I use so can't comment about other apps) all that shows up to the right of the speedometer is "BT Stereo". I know the car knows the information because it shows up (as stated) on the center console, however, it doesn't seem to want to display this information on the in dash display... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milleron Report post Posted May 23, 2014 As a user of a Nexus 5 (4.4.something) I can tell you that for Pandora (which is all I use so can't comment about other apps) all that shows up to the right of the speedometer is "BT Stereo". I know the car knows the information because it shows up (as stated) on the center console, however, it doesn't seem to want to display this information on the in dash display... Well, that's useful info, taullinis. It suggests that 4.4 may fix my problem. It may not give me track titles on both screens, but if it allows display on the large center screen, that would be good enough.Can anyone with an iPhone tell us if they get metadata on the small entertainment screen to the right of the speedometer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milleron Report post Posted May 23, 2014 Only artist name/song through bluetooth streaming google music on my VZW MotoX, Android 4.4.2. I want my album art as well. Speaking of album art:1 -- isn't the Gracenote database in MFT supposed to display album art on CDs?2 -- I seldom get any information displayed from CDs. The owner's manual doesn't mention how the Gracenote database can be updated. Does anyone have any information on it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted May 23, 2014 I haven't used BT streaming very often, we keep one USB cable plugged into an old iPod in the console and another to plug in the iPhone to charge/listen to music, but when I have used BT streaming I know that I've gotten artist info on the center screen. I believe that the right dash screen only says "BT Stereo". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted May 23, 2014 I believe there is another tread with same general topic but it was confirmed by Kim that the right dash cluster screen does not show artist or track while streaming BT. It works on the big screen with iPhone 4S latest iOS (7.xx) just like it does on you SGSIII Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeffo65 Report post Posted May 24, 2014 I am using a Samsung Galaxy S3 and just had the phone updated to 4.4.2 KitKat. When using BlueTooth I see artist name and song title on MFT screen but not the small screen to right of column. When the phone was running 4.3 I also had the artist and song title show on the MFT screen. So I have seen no difference at this time. I use Google Play and Spotify. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted May 26, 2014 Older Iphone did display it on the dash, but the new Iphone does not. I had an iphone 4, and did not upgrade it when 7 came out, and that one I was able to see track info on the dash, then stupid me broke the phone. :( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milleron Report post Posted May 26, 2014 Anybody know just what functionality Gracenote is supposed to provide? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted May 26, 2014 album covers and track information. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
md13ffhguy Report post Posted May 27, 2014 I had an S4 and went through the same thing - didn't work, upgrade made it work, next upgrade broke it. Switched to Nexus 5. Currently running a 4.4.2 rom and Pandora, Slacker, and Spotify all show artist and song info. Funny how the same data can be mirrored to the dash screen for Sirius... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted May 27, 2014 My kingdom for album art! or something like that... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
md13ffhguy Report post Posted May 27, 2014 The only way we'll get album art is if they add apps to MFT. Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be on the horizon. Just like mirroring music metadata to the right instrument cluster screen - we all know it's possible, but we need Ford to care enough to do it. There are probably other obstacles that we're unaware of, such as a concern over liability for added driver distraction. That, and Sirius, may be two of the biggest reasons why we haven't seen apps... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taullinis Report post Posted May 27, 2014 Though they can't claim that there is a driver distraction just giving me the track name to the right of the steering wheel seeing as they do that for FM radio when it get's a HD signal. 1 acdii reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milleron Report post Posted May 28, 2014 album covers and track information.I thought so, but I never see album art and rarely, these days, any track titles. Gracenote is fully enabled in the system information. I took delivery only 52 weeks ago.It acts as though it's badly out of date, but I can find no information on how to update it. Does updating perhaps require buying a new SD card for the Nav system??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy Report post Posted May 28, 2014 It acts as though it's badly out of date, but I can find no information on how to update it. Does updating perhaps require buying a new SD card for the Nav system???The Gracenote database is on the SD card for the navigation.Unfortunately the files on the new A5 card are exactly the same as the ones on the A4 card. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted May 28, 2014 Hmmm can I add to the files myself? Must try... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milleron Report post Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) We Verizon owners finally got the KitKat 4.4 upgrade for our Galaxy S IIIs. Just as rumored, Google's inclusion of the Bluetooth MAP function within the OS, rather than leaving its implementation to the individual manufacturers, has at LONG last, allowed metadata to stream to the center console screen regardless of the source. Pandora, Rhapsody, Spotify, and other services now display title and artist on the dash screen. Now if I could just get Gracenote to display anything at all besides track number for CDs, I'd be near the end of my rants. I can't get the damned thing to recognize any CD, even ones from 10 - 15 years ago. Can someone please tell me how Gracenote is working for them -- i.e., does it ever recognize even one CD of any vintage and display any information at all? Edited July 6, 2014 by milleron Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted July 6, 2014 Same experience for me--gracenote is pretty much useless, unless you have MP3's on a USB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milleron Report post Posted July 6, 2014 Same experience for me--gracenote is pretty much useless, unless you have MP3's on a USB.So, perhaps if I ripped the CDs first, then Gracenote might display track information? I have to ask because I couldn't obtain useful info about Gracenote from its Web site. I thought it was actually a CD database, but it must work by electronic analysis of the music that's playing to identify it; is that correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan Burch Report post Posted July 7, 2014 Yeah maybe. It's pretty hit and miss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
milleron Report post Posted July 7, 2014 WHY won't it work? Their Web site claims they have 130 million tracks in their database. I inserted what was for years the largest selling CD in the history of American sales: "The Eagles Greatest Hits, 1971 - 1975." I saw the usual "reading the disc" message box, then nothing but "unknown artist, Track 1." WTH?!? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted July 7, 2014 I thought Gracenote used the number of tracks on the CD plus the order and length of the tracks to determine what CD is in there. That's how it works (worked) in iTunes I think. I haven't bought a CD to then download to iTunes in years to know if it still works the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy Report post Posted July 7, 2014 Do you have Gracenote management turned on?It defaults to off.The Gracenote database is on the navigation SD card. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
