Truenorth Report post Posted April 8, 2014 The window sticker on the 2014 Fusion Hybrid shows 4.0 litres/100km city and 4.1 l/100km highway. If you convert litres to US gallons, the result is 58 miles per gallon. The US version displays 47 miles per gallon. Any comments? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzzi Report post Posted April 8, 2014 I want the Canadian version. Should be 5.0L/100km Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truenorth Report post Posted April 8, 2014 The car is new and getting 42 miles per gallon. Ford Canada clearly shows 4 l/100km which appears to be incorrect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted April 8, 2014 US window stickers are based on the US EPA fuel economy cycles. Canada uses a different fuel economy test which is similar to the fuel economy tests used in the UK. 1 Ted Swing reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzzi Report post Posted April 8, 2014 Sure does say 4L/100km. This rating was not done per EPA but per Government of Canada approved test methods. And people thought Ford was designing the car to ace the EPA test. Apparently Ford designed the car to ace the Canadian test. 4L/100km is grossly overrated. 2 hybridbear and Ted Swing reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inco Report post Posted April 8, 2014 (edited) Those numbers will probably never be attainable, but the same problem exists with EPA figures. They don't drive the way we do - or maybe better said that we don't drive the way they did to get that rating. I have not made it below 5L/100 yet, but when the weather gets better I'll be trying! Edited April 9, 2014 by inco 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Swing Report post Posted April 8, 2014 The Canadian test is more generous to all cars than the EPA test cycle, not just the FFH. The same is true of the EU test cycle. 5 L / 100 km is probably more realistic than 4 L / 100 km. That would be 58.8 MPG (or 57.4 MPG at 4.1 L / 100 km), which I haven't heard of anyone sustaining in the long run. It kind of puts our complaints about the EPA test cycle in perspective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted April 9, 2014 Once you accept the fact that EPA and other tests are not real world situations, then the car is not bad at all. What other 5 passenger sedan, with so many great features, and sleek designs can do what our Fusions do? All it needs are some curb feelers up front and its the perfect Catfish! 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted April 9, 2014 I got 4.1 L/100km on my 30km commute home yesterday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inco Report post Posted April 9, 2014 I got 4.1 L/100km on my 30km commute home yesterday. I hate you! ;( Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truenorth Report post Posted April 10, 2014 The fact is, Ford is advertising the Fusion Hybrid in Canada with a miles per US gallon of 58.8 and the same car in the US is rated at 47. This appears to be a corporate integrity issue to allow their product to be marketed in such a manor. If Apple used the same tactics, people would be in the streets with lanterns and pitch forks. As a new owner, I love the car but feel Ford should of rejected the Canadian Government results of 58.8 miles per gallon. But they went with the number knowing it was severely over inflated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted April 10, 2014 As long as it's the official test result of the Canadian test cycle I don't believe there is much the car manufacturer can do about it. I truly believe they should rework test cycles across the board and add constant interstate driving at 70 - 75 MPH for 2 hrs. In this case the # would be much closer to reality. About 38 MPG for mine on a just completed 3000 mile trip to FL. 3 hybridbear, Ted Swing and acdii reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) The fact is, Ford is advertising the Fusion Hybrid in Canada with a miles per US gallon of 58.8 and the same car in the US is rated at 47. This appears to be a corporate integrity issue to allow their product to be marketed in such a manor. If Apple used the same tactics, people would be in the streets with lanterns and pitch forks. As a new owner, I love the car but feel Ford should of rejected the Canadian Government results of 58.8 miles per gallon. But they went with the number knowing it was severely over inflated. When they advertise gallons in Canada, they use Imperial gallons, not US gallons. Why should Ford put themselves at a competitive disadvantage to all it's competitors by not using the same test that everyone else uses? Toyota's website advertises the Camry Hybrid at 62mpg, why should Ford not try to compete with that? But at least the government is finally doing something about this, the labels in 2015 will be much lower and more realistic:https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/energy/efficiency/transportation/cars-light-trucks/buying/7491 Edited April 10, 2014 by Waldo 3 hybridbear, Ted Swing and Mehcoib reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Truenorth Report post Posted April 10, 2014 The 58.8 miles per gallon quoted is in US gallons (see above). The sticker on my Ford Fusion had 4.0l/100km or 70.7 miles per imperial gallon. If you look at a fusion Hybrid in the US and travel a few miles into Canada. The Canadian car will display almost 12 miles per US gallon more than the US version according to Ford. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted April 10, 2014 The 58.8 miles per gallon quoted is in US gallons (see above). The sticker on my Ford Fusion had 4.0l/100km or 70.7 miles per imperial gallon. If you look at a fusion Hybrid in the US and travel a few miles into Canada. The Canadian car will display almost 12 miles per US gallon more than the US version according to Ford.This isn't a choice that Ford makes. They're just obeying the law. If you don't like it then you should write to your government representative. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Waldo Report post Posted April 10, 2014 The 58.8 miles per gallon quoted is in US gallons (see above). The sticker on my Ford Fusion had 4.0l/100km or 70.7 miles per imperial gallon. If you look at a fusion Hybrid in the US and travel a few miles into Canada. The Canadian car will display almost 12 miles per US gallon more than the US version according to Ford. No, it will display almost 12 mpg more according to the Canadian government test standards, not according to Ford. The window label's primary function is a comparison between different vehicles, not to inform consumers about what they will actually get. The Camry Hybrid label shows 19mpg more city in Canada vs the US. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Swing Report post Posted April 10, 2014 When they advertise gallons in Canada, they use Imperial gallons, not US gallons. Why should Ford put themselves at a competitive disadvantage to all it's competitors by not using the same test that everyone else uses? Toyota's website advertises the Camry Hybrid at 62mpg, why should Ford not try to compete with that? But at least the government is finally doing something about this, the labels in 2015 will be much lower and more realistic:https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/energy/efficiency/transportation/cars-light-trucks/buying/7491This seems to mirror the changes that the EPA made a few years ago (adding test cycles that include heat, AC, faster acceleration and driving). That's good news. I'll be curious what the 2015 FFH (and other cars) get in that new Canadian test cycle. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
