jeff_h Report post Posted April 5, 2014 Looks like most of us would be affected by this - SUBJECT: DEMONSTRATION / DELIVERY HOLD Advance Notice - Compliance Recall 14C03Certain 2013-2014 Model Year C-MAX, Escape, Fusion, and MKZ VehiclesFront Seat Back Frame Replacement AFFECTED VEHICLESVehicle Model Year Assembly Plant Build Date RangeC-MAX 2013-2014 Michigan July 23, 2012 through May 28, 2013Escape 2013-2014 Louisville June 5, 2012 through August 12, 2013Fusion/MKZ 2013-2014 Hermosillo August 15, 2012 through September 10, 2013Affected vehicles are identified in OASIS. In addition, for a list of vehicles assigned to your dealership, visit https://web.fsavinlists.dealerconnection.com. This information will be available on April 3, 2014. REASON FOR THIS COMPLIANCE RECALL Certain front driver and passenger seatback assemblies may have been produced with sub-standard weld joints attaching the seatback recliner mechanism to the seatback frame. A sub-standard recliner to seatback frame weld joint may separate and the operator may notice noise in the seatback or a loose or leaning seatback. Sub-standard recliner to seatback welds may also not meet the requirements of S4.2 of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 207, potentially increasing the risk of injury in certain collisions. SERVICE ACTIONDO NOT DEMONSTRATE OR DELIVER any of the affected vehicles involved in this compliance recall. It is anticipated that a complete Dealer Bulletin will be provided to dealers in the second quarter of 2014, once parts to repair this condition are available. NOTE: Parts are currently not available in sufficient quantities to support this compliance recall. In the interim period, if a vehicle arrives at your dealership with a front seatback that exhibits a loose or leaning condition or for dealer stock vehicles with a customer sales contract, please contact the Special Service Support Center. CUSTOMER NOTIFICATIONOwners of record will be notified via first-class mail after repair instructions and parts ordering information have been provided to dealers. 6 MaineFusion, GrySql, hybridbear and 3 others reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptjones Report post Posted April 5, 2014 jeff_h thanks for the post, I copied your post to the CMAX forum. :) Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Yes thank jeff_h. I reposted on the Lincoln Owners and Lincoln MKZ forums. Edited April 5, 2014 by SteveB_TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted April 6, 2014 Whoa!! Thanks for finding this. So what do they do with all the cars on the lots? It doesn't sound like they have a fix right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy Report post Posted April 6, 2014 The cars on the lots sit and collect dust. They are not allowed to demonstrate or sell them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptek Report post Posted April 6, 2014 For Fusion/MKZ, only cars built from August 15, 2012 through September 10, 2013 are affected. I would think that most cars in the dealer's lot would be newer that that by now. 2 ptjones and hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted April 6, 2014 The cars on the lots sit and collect dust. They are not allowed to demonstrate or sell them.That will be a major blow to Fusion sales. It was getting close to overtaking the Altima for the 3rd spot in midsize sales. This will really hurt it. So sad. I hope that ptek is right that most cars on lots are newer than these build dates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted April 6, 2014 Yes, I doubt many of the cars affected by this recall/hold notice are still on the lot. This will probably only impact smaller dealerships. Their inventory tends sit on the lot longer than at the big dealers... like in my area. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptjones Report post Posted April 6, 2014 This is weird, we have a CMAX member that is waiting on their new car that is built but is on hold. Obviously there is some confusion going on. ;( Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Swing Report post Posted April 7, 2014 If those dates are correct, then my car is unaffected. I ordered August 30, 2013 and was given a September 23rd, 2013 build date. I would be surprised if many new cars on the lots are affected given the fast turnover for FFHs (usually less than a month). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermans Report post Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) If those dates are correct, then my car is unaffected. I ordered August 30, 2013 and was given a September 23rd, 2013 build date. I would be surprised if many new cars on the lots are affected given the fast turnover for FFHs (usually less than a month).As a side note, I see you are from Scottsdate. We lived there for 15 years and still have property there. Edited April 7, 2014 by hermans 1 Ted Swing reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ted Swing Report post Posted April 7, 2014 As a side note, I see you are from Scottsdate. We lived there for 15 years and still have property there.Cool! I've been here for the past two years. It's a very nice area. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FordService Report post Posted April 7, 2014 Hello everyone, I just want to remind you all that recalls are VIN-specific and may not affect all vehicles built between those dates. I recommend checking out the Ford Owner website to see if your particular vehicle is affected by this recall. Ashley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzzi Report post Posted April 7, 2014 ETIS and FordOwner has me on the list. NBD right now, seat is rock solid. No problem waiting until parts are in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neod192 Report post Posted April 7, 2014 Mine was built on March 21st, 2013 but the Ford Website doesn't show any recalls on it. Maybe I got lucky? I am starting to hear all kind of rattles in mine though: driver's side column, by the seat belt hook, driver's side door (it's not the plastic panel behind the handle, it's lower, but higher than the speaker), passenger side somewhere. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smr2112 Report post Posted April 7, 2014 Has anybody had a seat issue that they could (likely) attribute to this?My seat has a few slight creaks sometimes, but otherwise totally normal. owner.ford.com does not list a recall for my car at this time, but could be coming.Anybody have a recall listed for their Fusion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) Has anybody had a seat issue that they could (likely) attribute to this?My seat has a few slight creaks sometimes, but otherwise totally normal. owner.ford.com does not list a recall for my car at this time, but could be coming.Anybody have a recall listed for their Fusion? The compliance recall notice says "Dealer Bulletin will be provided to dealers in the second quarter of 2014, once parts to repair this condition are available." I presume this also means owners will not receive their notices until this time period as well. :) Neither of our cars, which fall into the built date range, have a notice as of today. Edited April 7, 2014 by SteveB_TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erichFla Report post Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) I have just seen this Notice announced on Yahoo News today and I have not received a recall notice for the 2013-2014 Fusion Seat Frames as of today either. Currently, there are no listed recalls for your vehicle. <<< is what MINE says. Edited April 15, 2014 by erichFla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted April 8, 2014 Ford Owner says that there are "no recalls" for our vehicle. Etis also doesn't show anything. Etis also doesn't show this recall as affecting my parents' C-Max Energi. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted April 8, 2014 Re-read the notice guys. It says no notices will be made until a fix and parts are available in the 2nd quarter of 2014. The ETIS and Lincoln owners sites were slow to reflect the last recall for the MKZ. ETIS still shows my Z needing the first recall, even though it was done months ago. :) 2 corncobs and erichFla reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted May 20, 2014 Update: Concerned owners can contact Ford at 1-800-392-3673. Ask about recall # 14C03. I have read that the recall was expected to begin May 19th, so we should start seeing the recall notices in our mail within the next few weeks. Don't hold ME to that! ;)Owners may also contact the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Vehicle Safety Hotline at 1-888-327-4236, or go to www.safercar.gov. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted May 30, 2014 aw bugger, was going to check Etis, but the site failed. OOPS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted June 4, 2014 Well I got me recall notice letter today! Looks like a stop at the dealer is coming up soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SteveB_TX Report post Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) Well I got me recall notice letter today! Looks like a stop at the dealer is coming up soon. Does ETIS or your My Ford page show the recall? Neither show anything for the MKZh or FFH. Perhaps both of ours are not part of the recall! :) Edited June 4, 2014 by SteveB_TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
corncobs Report post Posted June 4, 2014 I just checked etis and yes the recall is on there! Maybe the seat frames are made by different manufactures I (my car) just got lucky enough to receive a subpar version. Well at least Ford is taking action. I actually believe my seat is already broken since I can hear a cracking sound when going thru a corner a bit faster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites