GrySql Report post Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) I was just looking at the Ford Website and Flat Rock, Michigan is supposed to be the primary assembly plant for the some of the late 2013 and all of the 2014 Fusions. Flat Rock is now dedicated to Fusion and Mustang that are sold in the USA, there is no mention of the hybrid model.Other data here... and here. So, there is the possibility that some of the later Fusions on this Forum were assembled in Flat Rock and the new air intake was part of that timing.Your window sticker and Etis ought to tell where each Fusion was made. Edited February 11, 2014 by GrySql Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted February 11, 2014 I was just looking at the Ford Website and Flat Rock, Michigan is supposed to be the primary assembly plant for the some of the late 2013 and all of the 2014 Fusions. Flat Rock is now dedicated to Fusion and Mustang that are sold in the USA, there is no mention of the hybrid model.Other data here... and here. So, there is the possibility that some of the later Fusions on this Forum were assembled in Flat Rock and the new air intake was part of that timing.Your window sticker and Etis ought to tell where each Fusion was made.Previous info indicated that all hybrid/Energi models will be built exclusively in Mexico. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murphy Report post Posted February 11, 2014 The first digit of the VIN indicates country of manufacture.1 - USA2 - Canada3 - Mexico 3 GrySql, hybridbear and corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hermans Report post Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) Straight from the horse's mouth at the Flat Rock, MI plant. There are no FFHs, MKZh, or Energis being built at the Flat Rock plant. They are all built in Mexico. All MKZs are built in Mexico. Edited February 11, 2014 by hermans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lolder Report post Posted February 11, 2014 That explains all the damned metric fasteners.Most cars made in most countries have had metric fasteners for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzzi Report post Posted February 11, 2014 Most cars made in most countries have had metric fasteners for years.I know. More excuses for me to buy more tools! 2 corncobs and dalesky reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzzi Report post Posted February 14, 2014 My other interest is that the newer FFH's seem to get better mpg's as a rule. Will this resonance chamber and air reservoir help to mix the Atkinson motors 'blow back gases' to make the car run better and get better mpg's?We shall see.you've got a good point here. The hot rodders here have probably heard of volumetric efficiency. Just like tuned headers allow the pulsed gasses from the exhaust to flow in the most efficient manner to clean out the cylinder to allow a fresh charge, the intake is also a factor in volumetric efficiency. When timed right a pulse of intake air that is farting out of the cylinder in our cars would push the air all the way to the front of the intake, the chamber is probably designed so that the pulse enters the chamber and its course is reversed on a subsequent cylinder intake opening and "hits" the chamber with more force than regular intake air and putsmore fresh air in the cylinder. there's CFD animations all over youtube to explain this better than I can. In a hot rod I would leave the resonance chamber out to get the throaty noise but in a comfy sedan, quiet is better. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Except the chamber is in front of the air filter, would make more sense for that if it was behind it. Aren't these also DI engines? I doubt this will have anything to do with FE, more just to reduce the growl the intake makes. The air path is too far from the intake itself to help with the pulsing. On Headers, its the scavenging that they fine tune, they use the pull from one pipe, to scavenge the exhaust out of the other pipes, this is why equal length headers are so important when building a performance engine. When each pipe is of equal length, the outgoing pulse from each pipe is identical to all the others so you have a smooth flow of exhaust gasses. You want the same thing on intakes, equal length runners, so the air charge to each cylinder has the exact same flow. If you have a runner that is longer then the others, the air charge is at a lower volume, and can lean out the cylinder(for carburated systems), or richen it (for injected systems). Porting the heads to match the intakes is also a must have to get smooth air flow. Now for the Atkinson, thats something I would like to learn more about. Those pulses, how do they affect vacuum across the intake, and what about exhaust gas, is there any mixed in and reburned like EGR? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted February 14, 2014 Our engines are not direct injection. That's something that Ford could probably improve in the future. Part of what makes the Prius and the HAH so efficient is that they have a more efficient ICE than the FFH. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted February 16, 2014 And yet the 2.5 they used in the Gen 1 was more efficient at highway speeds than the 2.0 currently in use. I was getting prius like MPG on the highway in the 2010, something I cant do in the 13. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted February 17, 2014 Anyone else able to chime in and help update this chart? MKZ Hybrid3/22/13 is the earliest online to have the resonance chamber (Steve_B)Fusion Energi2/12/13 is the earliest online to have the resonance chamber (Jeff_h)Fusion Hybrid4/30/13 still doesn't have the resonance chamber (vangonebuy)5/7/13 is the earliest online to have the resonance chamber (our white FFH)Let's keep trying get more build dates and whether or not your car has the chamber to fill in a more complete picture of the data. Especially if your car was built after one of the dates above and is missing the resonance chamber or has the chamber and was built before a date above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalesky Report post Posted February 18, 2014 Build date 8-4-13, Fusion Hybrid, Titanium. No chamber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted February 18, 2014 Build date 8-4-13, Fusion Hybrid, Titanium. No chamberDo you mean 4/8/13? Remember that in Etis the dates are dd/mm/yyyy.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tr7driver Report post Posted February 19, 2014 7-22-13 HY ti has chamber (My 2001 Toyota gasoline engine highlander also has a similar chamber). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalesky Report post Posted February 19, 2014 I know. More excuses for me to buy more tools!I have had people ask me if I used to work at a hardware store. I love tools Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dalesky Report post Posted February 19, 2014 Do you mean 4/8/13? Remember that in Etis the dates are dd/mm/yyyy....Yes, I forgot that they were using that way, Thanks 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Anyone else able to chime in and help update this chart? MKZ Hybrid3/22/13 is the earliest online to have the resonance chamber (Steve_B)Fusion Energi2/12/13 is the earliest online to have the resonance chamber (Jeff_h)Fusion Hybrid SE4/30/13 still doesn't have the resonance chamber (vangonebuy)5/7/13 is the earliest online to have the resonance chamber (our white FFH) Fusion Hybrid Titanium (in case there's a difference between SEs & HyTis...)4/28/13 still doesn't have the resonance chamber (kuzzi)Let's keep trying get more build dates and whether or not your car has the chamber to fill in a more complete picture of the data. Especially if your car was built after one of the dates above and is missing the resonance chamber or has the chamber and was built before a date above. Edited February 21, 2014 by hybridbear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LASooner Report post Posted February 21, 2014 Fusion Hybrid Titanium (in case there's a difference between SEs & HyTis...)4/28/13 still doesn't have the resonance chamber (LASooner) For the sake of accuracy, it's 4/24/13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzzi Report post Posted February 21, 2014 For the sake of accuracy, it's 4/24/13Mine's the 4/28/13, makes no difference to me who gets the credit unless there's a cash prize. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted February 21, 2014 Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuzzi Report post Posted May 8, 2014 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_resonance 2 hybridbear and GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted July 17, 2015 Do all the MY2014, 2015 & 2016s FFHs have the resonance chamber? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrider Report post Posted July 17, 2015 My 2014 FFH has the resonance chamber, and I bet the 2015 and 2016 still do as well. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangonebuy Report post Posted September 4, 2015 Take me off the list.I purchased a new intake from Tasca.Best price I could find shipped.Results were better than I expected.About 40% quieter at low revs.Tone has changed. Deeper engine sound now.Not the bleeting sheep sound. Or the elk call as someone else mentioned. Very Happy. 3 GrySql, corncobs and hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites