good versus bad hybrid?

[Kwilli]

How do you know if you got one of the good FFHs? I'm just curious. I'm still new to the forum and have been pouring over the posts and have read that some people have had a "bad" FFH that did not get the expected MPG (even for experienced hybrid drivers).

 

I have had my FFH titanium for a week, and have 300 miles on it and the average MPG for the car is at 36.2. On my trip 2, I reset it when I was approx 30 miles into the 300 (so a total of 270) and it is reading MPG of 38.3. I think that I'm doing pretty well so far. I'm brand new to a hybrid and am learning new things on this car everyday. I've had multiple trips in the upper 40s and 50s for trips ranging anywhere from 5-40 miles. Some of my trips have not been as good, but I feel like I'm getting more consistent and landing in the 39 + every time I drive.

 

Fingers crossed mine is a good one (I believe it is)! (P.S. I know that it will continue to improve for the next 3000 miles)

[cwb1183]

Good vrs bad is mostly in the eye of the owner!

Fusion Hybrids are all sweet rides and your mileage will be much better than any gas only car no matter the size.

[rjent]

How fast do you drive it. Speed is a mileage killer .... period. If you can keep it to and under 60, I think you will see advertised mileage.

 

Just my 2 cents.

[LEM]

I also heard something like this. Some people said that cars built by the end of last november (I think) had some MPG issues. Not sure how accurate is that information...

[jeff_h]

I also heard something like this. Some people said that cars built by the end of last november (I think) had some MPG issues. Not sure how accurate is that information...

 

I don't think this has been established, but is possible. For a couple that have noted that their MPGs are always low and thinking that the build date is a factor, a couple others with similar build dates will chime in and say their MPG is good. So as for something like a software version or parts used between dates X-Y I have my doubts on that -- but for some to have a lemon HVB that doesn't hold charge like it should, yeah I think that's possible but also seems that something like that would be indicated on a VHR or show up when the dealer's service dept hooks up the gizmo analyzers, etc. But as for a widespread "dates A-B are no good", I have my doubts on that one.

[acdii]

I had looked into the end of October theory as a few owners who were barely breaking 30 MPG had their cars built during that week along with mine. My car had fouled all 4 spark plugs at 4500 miles, prior to that I took a long road trip down to Florida from IL, and no matter what speed I tried, I could not get it to reach even 40 MPG, when I can take the 2010 and get 42 easily. After that I just tried everything I could think of to try to get it to be consistent, and it just wasn't possible with this car. It turns out though, that all the others who had their cars built during that week ALL drove short trips of under 10 miles each way, and that is what was killing their MPG. So that theory of cars built during a particular week having a problem was disproven, mine just happened to be a lemon that couldn't get resolved, and I had no help from Ford to get resolved since it fell into their acceptable range during long extended test drives. (cheating). The fact that driven that same way in my other car returned better mileage than the new one had no impact on their decision either. So basically I hate Ford CSR, but love their cars.

[Nick P]

One thing I noticed from reading a ton of posts on this and other forums (in other words I have zero data to back this up) is the ratio of EV miles to total miles. It seems that more than half the total miles on the car should be EV miles. If you're under 50% there is either an issue with the car or how the car is driven. It's clear that Acdii has tried everything there is to be tried, and then some, and still couldn't generate EV miles. Clearly the car was the issue. So I would say if you try all the driving tips people on this forum have talked about and only generate 35% of you total mileage as EV miles, then the car has a problem. Just my 2 cents.

[acdii]

Well actually I had trips with 75% EV miles and still couldnt break 40 MPG. Then I had trips with very low EV miles and shot over 51 MPG.

I dont have an example for the 75% one, but close. I have one for the 51 MPG one too.

 

 

I think that is a 25 mile trip with 14 miles on EV. this one puzzled the hell out of me. Not once did I see the instant go over 50, right after I took this I restarted the car and drove some more and only got 37.

 

 

 

Crazy! I do believe there was a glitch in the system somewhere that caused all this.

Edited April 29, 2013 by acdii

[okaydave]

Bad: it will not do the following: laundry, cooking, cleaning

 

Good: it knows how not to be bad without telling her, oops...I mean it

 

jk of course....

[acdii]

Bad hybrid, one with Glass Packs! :shift: