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2013 FFH Titanium does not come with LRR tires

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I have an inquiry to Goodyear on the LRR. I saw elsewhere they were listed as being of a LRR compound, but cant find that link. If and when I get a response, then it will be official as it comes from the tire manufacturer and not a third party who wouldnt know.

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From Ford Chat:

 

Lisa says:
I certainly appreciate your patience. The tire type recommended for the Fusion Hybrid Titanium is 235/45R18. Based on the information I can access, I do see that these are low rolling resistance tires.

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I got a reply from Goodyear. :banghead:

 

 

 

Thank you for contacting our web site and for considering Goodyear for your
replacement tire needs.

With high gas prices, more consumers are interested in fuel-efficient cars,
including hybrids, that can help them save some money at the pump. They
also sometimes ask which tires are rated best for fuel efficiency or low
rolling resistance.

There currently are no such standards and labels on tires. Legislation is
being considered to create a type of rating system for rolling resistance
or fuel efficiency of tires, with rating results provided at point-of-sale
in retail outlets, but not on the tire itself. The legislation would also
require an element of consumer education on proper tire care. But many
questions remain unanswered. Studies show that many varying conditions – no
matter the tire type – affect fuel efficiency. These include type of
vehicle, road surface, vehicle load, temperatures, tire inflation pressure
and more. Also, legislators are concerned that reductions in tread
thickness, volume and mass are among the means available to reduce rolling
resistance, yet those qualities would likely be undesirable if they lead to
shorter tire lives and increased numbers of scrap tires.

Barbara
Consumer Relations











To: goodyear_cr@goodyear.com
cc:
Subject: Contact Us request from www.goodyear.com



A Goodyear website user has submitted a request through the corporate
contact form. Please address the concern accordingly.


Phone:
Address:
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Message:
Are the Eagle LS-2 tires Low rolling resistance? Big debate on them with
the Hybrid owners who are getting these as OEM on the Ford Fusions.

If you are not the correct recipient, please notify the Goodyear Global Web
Operations team of the email error and we will update our website contact
list.
Edited by acdii

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So, my take on this is that the idea of "Low Rolling Resistance" is nothing more than advertising hype from car companies.

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Good thing my SE has all-weathers on it. We just got an inch of snow right before I left work (and it's still coming down). While all the idiots swerved all over the road cause they can't drive, I didn't slip a single time. Good stuff.

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So, my take on this is that the idea of "Low Rolling Resistance" is nothing more than advertising hype from car companies.

 

More likely the tire manufactures... ;) I have replaced supposed LRR / energy saving tires on previous hybrids with regular Michelin Pilots and seen an increase in gas mileage. I have yet to see a decrease in my gas mileage when I swapped out the OEM tires on any vehicle....

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1 -- I definitely have seen a decrease in gas mileage when replacing worn-out OEM tires with new ones, but the payoff was in much better and safer handling. "Softer" tires have higher resistance but provide better traction, so that's not surprising.

 

2 -- It's interesting to note that on the build sheet for my car at Etis, the tires are specifically listed as "Normal Rolling Resistant Tyre."

 

So, it would seem that Ford acknowledges in some way that there is variability in rolling resistance in tires, and in the case of the FFH, indicates that they've chosen a tire that does not have "high" R-R.

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