New Hybrid

[acdii]

Agreed! I was hoping it was me smoking crack, but my test drive today in 55* temps proved, it aint me, its dis car. It's too bad Ford is telling me otherwise, oh how I wish it would throw some codes again! :(

[lolder]

With a dealer maintenance rep, take the 2010 and 2013 out to a straight rural road and mark how far each one coasts to a stop from a given speed.

[acdii]

I will have to find another dealer to do that, mine has had enough with me on this. But you gave me an idea for next weekend. Going to find a nice stretch and do just that, recording it with my video cam.

[lolder]

Make sure the wind and temperatures are the same and the HVB is close to average SOC so the programmed drag will be nominal. Pick a roadside throttle off point and make sure the speeds are as exact as you can make them ( maybe you could drive both cars side by side for a speed match ).. A GPS can get you within 1 mph. I'd try several speeds, one below 47 mph and one above 62 and maybe one between. Measure the distance and differences from a Google Earth view if you can find a road with many well defined distances visible on Google Earth. Google Earth distances can be measured to about a foot accuracy. Alternately, the accuracy of the total distance is not too critical and if the difference is significant, you can pace the distance and calibrate your pace.

Edited April 1, 2013 by lolder

[acdii]

I think I have the perfect spot picked out, its not far from the house, and is fairly level with a good distance between the stop sign ahead sign and the stop sign. I will need to find another stretch though that is fairly flat and not heavily traveled so that I can do the coast down test.

[hybridbear]

Make sure the wind and temperatures are the same and the HVB is close to average SOC so the programmed drag will be nominal. Pick a roadside throttle off point and make sure the speeds are as exact as you can make them ( maybe you could drive both cars side by side for a speed match ).. A GPS can get you within 1 mph. I'd try several speeds, one below 47 mph and one above 62 and maybe one between. Measure the distance and differences from a Google Earth view if you can find a road with many well defined distances visible on Google Earth. Google Earth distances can be measured to about a foot accuracy. Alternately, the accuracy of the total distance is not too critical and if the difference is significant, you can pace the distance and calibrate your pace.

With a dealer maintenance rep, take the 2010 and 2013 out to a straight rural road and mark how far each one coasts to a stop from a given speed.

Truly excellent ideas. This should help you gather evidence of the defective nature of your 13 that Ford cannot deny.

 

You might also want to borrow (i.e. test drive) another 13 from a dealer to compare its coasting on the exact same stretch of road

[acdii]

Truly excellent ideas. This should help you gather evidence of the defective nature of your 13 that Ford cannot deny.

 

You might also want to borrow (i.e. test drive) another 13 from a dealer to compare its coasting on the exact same stretch of road

This is what I was trying to do, but the only dealer by me has no FFH(actually my dealer). I was going to contact the EV certified dealer today, but havent had a chance to yet. That incident with the battery level dropping 50% in under 4 10ths of a mile while using ICE sure got my attention.

[hybridbear]

This is what I was trying to do, but the only dealer by me has no FFH(actually my dealer). I was going to contact the EV certified dealer today, but havent had a chance to yet. That incident with the battery level dropping 50% in under 4 10ths of a mile while using ICE sure got my attention.

 

What incident was this? Did you reference it in another read? If so you don't need to rehash it here, you can just tell me where to go...

[acdii]

Under battery charging, the 75% thread. Too many been there done that on rehash.

[Allegany]

Well I felt it was time for an update. I now have 8900 miles on the car and around 3400 electric miles. I had my studded snows removed last Saturday and am now driving on the original equipment Michelin's. Since last Saturday my long term average has gone up from 39.0 to 39.2 driving the same route as I did in the winter. It was warmer this past week and it really is improving my mileage. I think removing the studs also helped. I'm moving up slowly and so far I'm very pleased with the car. Unfortunately the rooftops were covered with snow this morning, you could even see it on the grass. Yesterday the temp hit 71 then dropped to 34 in just about two hours. Its supposed to drop to 21 degrees tonight then start a slow warm up. Winter just doesn't seem to want to go away. Well tha's it from here, hope everyone is enjoying their new Fusions as much as I am.

[B25Nut]

Thanks for the update. Warmer weather definitely helps the MPG. I don't think there is a happier group of car owners than right here. It also feels good knowing we made the right choice. My wife says I'd rather be right than be President.

[murphy]

I would love to see some warmer weather. Spring is now 1/3 over and the temperature was below freezing when I got up this morning.

I'm 35 miles north of Philadelphia, PA.

[acdii]

I would love to see some warmer weather. Spring is now 1/3 over and the temperature was below freezing when I got up this morning.

I'm 35 miles north of Philadelphia, PA.

Same here. Was supposed to be 65 today, well that changed, again, may hit 50, but now there is more rain for the next 3 days, just what I needed, still cant get all the water out of my basement, just when I think its receded, I go down in the morning and its all back. :banghead:

[Allegany]

Well in the last two weeks my mileage has gone up to 39.4 average since day one. It is definately improving since removing the studded tires. It is going up slowly because I now have over 9400 miles on it. Love the car. Now on my way to work I'm getting over 52MPG and coming home over 39 mpg. It keeps going up and I am very pleased with the car. Almost 3700 electric miles. See ya

[Allegany]

Well time for an update. I now have about 10200 miles and almost 4000 electric miles. My average MPG since day one is now at 39.7.

I got 53.8 on the way to work and 46.6 on the way to the dealer after work. I took the car to the dealer because he was supposed to have my spare tire in. Turns out it was delayed. Coming home from the dealer I got 28.8MPG. It's up hill all the way and steep. The trip to work was 20.9 miles and the trip to the dealer from work was 28.8 miles. Love the car.

[Allegany]

Well it's update time again. 10829.5 miles on the odometer. 4309.8 electric miles and 538 regen miles. The lifetime average has just reached 40.0 mpg. The car is regularly getting 52+MPG on the way to work, the trip is 20.9 miles. Return trip is averaging about 39.0 mpg. I've gotten as high as 54 going to work and as high as 41 coming home. I drive the same route every day and try to drive it the same. Most of the driving is on County roads at 56 mph about 4 miles village driving at 30 mph. My former car was a Mercury.Montego and I was getting about 22mpg. So My average is nearly double what my previous car was getting. Very happy with the car.

[Allegany]

Just a quick update. Long term average is now 40.7 MPG and I have over 12700 miles on the car. Went to the dealer with my recall letter. Seems they put the wrong gear shift on, so they ordered the leather one which would be the right one. Hesitant to have them fix it and maybe screw something up. Car runs great.

[Dolfdude]

Hello everyone,

I pre ordered my 2014 Fusion Hybrid Titanium a month ago preferring over SE trim b'coz of few distinctive features & options such as

• Dual Integrated Exhaust,
• Sony Audio,
• Remote start,
• Push button start/stop etc.

I saw a 2013 hybrid titanium last week & noticed NO Dual exhaust on those. Its kinda disappointing to have it on non hybrid fusion titanium trims & not on Hybrids.

Also NO wheel options on Hybrid Titanium. Its weird the lower trim models like SE has the options to choose or upgrade the wheels but not the higher trim Hybrid Titanium.

Really hope & wish they would include in 2014 hybrid titanium models.

Thanks

[hermans]

You have posted this very same post elsewhere. Once again - there are many threads on this topic.

[Allegany]

Well I just thought I'd give another update. the Lifetime average is now 41.0. I have 14178+ miles and 5925+ electric vehicle miles.Lifetime average is slowly climbing. Just got 47.7 coming back from Olean. Got 53.2 going. Very pleased with the car so far. Love the mileage.

[acdii]

Well I just thought I'd give another update. the Lifetime average is now 41.0. I have 14178+ miles and 5925+ electric vehicle miles.Lifetime average is slowly climbing. Just got 47.7 coming back from Olean. Got 53.2 going. Very pleased with the car so far. Love the mileage.

Yours is the one that had the snow tires on, correct? (might be thinking of someone else) Either way, those were impressive numbers with snow rubbers.

[Allegany]

ACDII, yes I had studded snows on for the winter. Took them off in April and the mileage along with the better weather has been climbing continuously. The trip I mentioned in my last note was on the expressway for 26 miles and the cruise was set at 62. I find not many people pass me at that speed. On the way back I took county and state roads at 56. I currently have the 17" Michelin original equipment tires on the car and yesterday my long term average went up to 41.1. So far I haven't had any issues with the car and it rides really well. Considering getting the wife one to replace her Taurus which is running around 21 -22 mpg.

[acdii]

When I got the first FFH, it had the 18" luxury wheels, and I thought they were the problem, but not anymore, I have the same tires on this new one, and everything is great. I'll bet though the 17" Michelins will get slightly better mileage though than the goodyears, but there is probably a good chance the GY tires have better traction and handling. I will take that for a 1-2MPG penalty!

 

So if concerned when buying the FFH with the 18" wheels, dont be, they are decent tires.

[Allegany]

ACDII, what made you get rid of the 2010 Fusion Hybrid and get a second 2013 Fusion Hybrid after your bad experience with the first one?

[acdii]

Lost the extended warranty on it due to bank communication issues. Without the warranty, I didnt want to take a chance of an issue over the next 4 years. With the new one(which is the one I had ordered in April), I have a 125K mile 5 year ESP on it, and I really missed driving the 13 over the 10.

 

There is a time for everything to happen, a day after I got the new car, my old one got rear ended in a 5 car pileup. Had that happened while we still had it, it would have been a bad thing. If for some unknown(and better not) reason this new one gets totaled, I have Gap insurance on it. Covered all bases for the next 10 years that I plan to keep this car.