terryb Report post Posted December 28, 2012 There's also the elimination of the weight of the tire, wheel and jack eliminated from the mass hauled on every trip. TerryB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted December 28, 2012 The place the pump is in has a foam insert, if you remove it, you can put a spare tire there, but you are on your own for the jack. I dont know if the non hybrid has the 12V battery in the trunk, could be where the jack is stored in those models that do have a spare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
expresspotato Report post Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) I've driven a Camry Hybrid, Prius (Gen III), and Prius C. Even in the Camry Hybrid I was able to get about 5.0 L / 100KM which is 47MPG. In the Pirus C with some effort I could get down to about 4.6 L/100 KM for the hour long city drive which is 51MPG. It feels like Ford is bull on the numbers. Edited December 29, 2012 by expresspotato Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fusionTX Report post Posted December 29, 2012 I've driven a Camry Hybrid, Prius (Gen III), and Prius C. Even in the Camry Hybrid I was able to get about 5.0 L / 100KM which is 47MPG. In the Pirus C with some effort I could get down to about 4.6 L/100 KM for the hour long city drive which is 51MPG. It feels like Ford is bull on the numbers.We have to wait and see what EPA says. If EPA certifies numbers but real world numbers fall far below, then some changes may be in store to testing mechanism. I find it a little disturbing that the consumer reports highway test done at 65 MPH, the Fusion underperformed badly, while the Camry hybrid overperformed the EPA tests. 65 MPH is a very reasonable speed for highway tests IMO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rfruth Report post Posted December 29, 2012 (edited) Question - are the 18" tires LRR like the 17", any one know (both recommend 33 PSI) ? Edited December 29, 2012 by rfruth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted December 30, 2012 Question - are the 18" tires LRR like the 17", any one know (both recommend 33 PSI) ? Usually LRR tires will be posted as such when you look up tires. I have yet to believe they are, but the Michelins are LRR that are installed on stock Fusion rims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrayStrider Report post Posted January 5, 2013 65 MPH is a very reasonable speed for highway tests IMO.Considering that our speed limit on all major roads nearby are 65 MPH, I totally agree! Wish the hybrid could stay in EV mode up to 65 instead of 62. Why does the Energi need to have 85 MPH as it's upper EV limit? Would love to have had 5 MPH from the Energi added to the hybrid. I've only been on one road that let you go that fast (and I think it actually was 80 MPH, not 85 MPH - somewhere in Utah where we were driving on a family trip this past summer). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Nevada has a couple stretches at 80 MPH. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terryb Report post Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) There's a newly opened stretch between San Antonio and Austin which is poster at 85.They ran a supervised test of a speed modified Corvette at IIRC ~235mph. Good road bed. Whether the cars are built for it or not, I think the EPA test should be at common highway cruise speeds. Edited January 5, 2013 by terryb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brcd131 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 If you go to the Ford web site where you can see the build date for your car, you can also see the complete build sheet. It specifically saysStyle 2 Alloy 18" wheelNormal Rolling Resistance Tyre If you got the 17" wheel it says:17 X 7.5 Alloy Wheel Style 1Low Rolling Resistant Tyre It says that like you had a choice for the 18" wheel which I don't think that you did. I didn't order the car, but bought it off the showroom floor. But there may be other options available for the Lincoln which is probably built on the same line so that's probably why they are so specific. Too bad they don't tell their customers what they are getting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nmadole Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Gas milage still dropping... i am down to an average of 30.1 MPG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coach81 Report post Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) :cry: How fast are you driving, city or highway? Edited January 6, 2013 by coach81 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terryb Report post Posted January 6, 2013 Gas milage still dropping... i am down to an average of 30.1 MPGYou may be headed for the Check Engine Light like acdii experienced.I've only put about 80 miles since delivery but I have seen segments of 46 mpg.I'm going to start noting the facts of every trip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
acdii Report post Posted January 6, 2013 He is documenting everything on a blog, I use fuel log on my iphone along with Fuelly and fueleconomy.gov to track my mileage. My daily drive is 35-43 miles each way, so plenty of time for the car to warm up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
