miles per gallon

[taker52]

state what type of fusion you have your current mpg and what the feds claim what your mpg sould be from their standards.

[dennisw]

My FFH beats the fed numbers by a wide margin. I have never had a car that did not best the sticker figures. That small claims suit against Honda was not right. I know I could have achieved the figures from the sticker on the very same car that was awarded the money. My long term mileage is 43+ and to this date at 33000 miles I have not had a tank below 40 mpg. The problem is not the stickers it's the drivers.

 

A little note to this post I do not drive slower than every one on the road with me, I just use smart driving techniques. Practically every driver I see waste fuel on an ongoing basis. It is very rare that I don't witness drivers waiting gas.

[desertrat]

What kind of mileage are you seening on the highway at 70 or 75 MPH? I am trying to decide if I want to go ahead with a 2012 FFH or wait for the new 2013 which has higher estimated mileage. I do a lot of highway driving so highway MPG is important to me.

[dennisw]

The highway numbers are better than advertized but I do drive conservative, not so much because of the FFH, I drive to be relaxed and do not normally exceed the posted limits. No tickets in the last 30 years of driving with more than two million miles on the road in that time. I try to keep it at no more than 70 mph, this is not saying I have not exceeded this it's just my norm. I get high 30's low 40's if only on the highway. My last fill up which was today and 100% town was 55.7 mpg.

 

My worst tank was 40.4 and was about 95% highway on a windy day and faster than normal speeds I was on turnpike with 75 mph limits and had numerous spells at 80+ mpg, my 20% in town kept this tank full in the 40's and my record of never having a fill up not in the 40's or higher. Today my long term mpg hit 50.1mpg on the speedo but on paper it is at 45.6 this is since I have been tracking numbers which was last July.

 

The web site fuel economy.gov has the 2010 FFH right at the advertized mix of 39 mpg. So by the 40+ samples on that data base an average driver can achieve the advertized numbers. And as I have already stated more is not hard to achieve.

[jeff_h]

39.8 MPG over 117k miles, sticker is 41 City / 36 Mighway... I think I'm a bit better than sticker as 90% of my miles are on I-95.

[dennisw]

I had my LVB replaced under warranty almost two months ago and since that time I have had 99% of my driving in town. The last two tanks of gas have both been in the low 50's calculated by driven miles and gallons used. The long term mileage on the display is now at 50.4 mpg. This of course has nothing to do with the battery replacement it's just because the computer data was reset. I never reset the long term mileage, the longer it collects data the closer it reads to the actual average. My calculated mileage is now at 45.6 mpg for 34,000 miles and I have still never had a tank under 40mpg. My last two out of town trips of 50+ miles both were above 50 mpg from the dash readout. Both these trips were at posted speed limits of 65 mph. Keeping the speed down on the open road sure does reward the driver with great mileage. As for the terrain on these two trips it was flat with little to no hills.

[MoreMPG]

@MoreMPG We just bought a 2010 Fusion Hybrid with 45000 miles on it. We went 3 weeks on the full tank from the dealer and are presently getting 41.1mpg in town. We are taking our first road trip tommorrow. We'll be driving 70=75MPH. Hope to see 37+ MPG. Will be checking out a shop that install Enginer plug in conversion kits.The 4 kwh kits are most common. Good for 20 miles per charge of blended driving.

[lolder]

Several of your warranties are probably still in force. That mod might invalidate them. The FFH is a very carefully balanced design that I would think more than twice about modifying.

[jeff_h]

Several of your warranties are probably still in force. That mod might invalidate them. The FFH is a very carefully balanced design that I would think more than twice about modifying.

 

I agree, seems like a big risk based on how much money you might save on gas (after the cost of the gizmo, that is)... if you do it, good luck and let us know how it goes, but I sure wouldn't.

[MoreMPG]

Got 36.2 Highway MPG. I didn't have time to check out the conversion, will wait a while. I wondered about existing warranty issues too. We are experiencing an issue with the tire pressure sensor and air conditioning reaching the back seat area, but that's off topic.All the tires are at 33 psi and warning light comes on and stays on. Back seat passengers don't feel much a/c.

[MoreMPG]

There's a nice youtube video from someone who owns a fusion hybrid that did a plug in conversion. One of the state vehicles has a plug in conversion done with the 'enginer' system also. I believe it's the only one available that will work with any hybrid. It'll be interesting to see how Ford's plug in 'Energi' works out. The man on the youtube video says his MPG went from 39 to 59mpg after the conversion. The additional battery pack (which can be turned on or off) takes up another 6" in the trunk. It takes about 5-6 hours to recharge when depleted.

I sat in the back seat while my wife adjusted the a/c controls and we found a good combo for cooling the back seat area. So now it's just the tire pressure warning that's annoying.

[tr7driver]

There's a nice youtube video from someone who owns a fusion hybrid that did a plug in conversion. One of the state vehicles has a plug in conversion done with the 'enginer' system also. I believe it's the only one available that will work with any hybrid. It'll be interesting to see how Ford's plug in 'Energi' works out. The man on the youtube video says his MPG went from 39 to 59mpg after the conversion. The additional battery pack (which can be turned on or off) takes up another 6" in the trunk. It takes about 5-6 hours to recharge when depleted.

I sat in the back seat while my wife adjusted the a/c controls and we found a good combo for cooling the back seat area. So now it's just the tire pressure warning that's annoying.

What was the solution to the back seat air conditioning issue? We have the same problem

[MoreMPG]

I'm not sure what settings for air flow we used, but we did put it on recirculation so as not to draw in hot outside air. Temps have been cooler here lately so it hasn't been an issue. I know that when I sat in the back seat most of the cold air was coming from the center vents. My wife and I are getting more used to driving economically and are presently averaging 42.2 mpg in town. My wife is very happy with the car.

[coach81]

Would LOVE to hear about the MPG on the brand new '13 FFH.. is it really getting 47??? Anyone???

[cajodhya]

So we are one week of ownership of the '13 FFH as of last night. We are @ 415.6 miles on the odometer with about 1/4 tank on the fuel level gauge. Per the lifetime summary: 415.6 miles total, 181.0 EV miles, 22.6 Regen miles, 42.7 MPG fuel use, Brake Score: 95% . Overall, we are very pleased and I never realized how much of my daily commute is up hill! I will add that we have seen 57.6 - 61.4 MPG on short 10-15 mile trips (going out to dinner, grocery shopping, etc..) which brings a smile to my face

[coach81]

42.7 overall is very good! As I asked on another post.. did you have to "work" for your MPG, or did you "just drive"?

 

Thanks in advance... really appreciate all the info as I will be waiting for several...several months on the vehicle...

[cajodhya]

Honestly, I could try harder and confidently think I can get a few more mpg. 2 examples being acceleration and cruising.

 

I have been trying not to go past 33% throttle when accelerating to high speeds or traffic lights to see what the numbers are, but in trips where I consciously feather the pedal better I do see slightly better MPG.

 

I have been using the ECO-Cruise feature when on the highway just to gauge on how good the technology is. While I think it is good overall, the majority of the times, I find myself being able to manage the throttle better to stay in EV mode longer. I have seen times where the ECO cruise will stay in hybrid mode on level roads but just kicking it off slightly and then back on puts me back in EV. So little things like that will add up.

 

I will say that as I get more comfortable with the "rules" of hybrid driving to leverage the investment as much as we can, the average person should easily see 40-41. My wife is a little but more impatient and aggressive driver, so im sure she will probably average mid 30s. LOL

[lolder]

For all the new hybrid drivers entering into the cold seasons, the biggest break in factor is you. There is a little improvement in the car but not much. The first generation FFH has a 0.2 mpg loss per degree F. fall of temperature. It gets about 45 mpg at 50 mph and 60 d.F. If the temperature drops 40 d. F. to 20 d. F., the mileage will drop 8 mpg ! I would expect the 2013 FFH to have the same characteristics. That cold weather loss doesn't even include heating the cabin which will kill short trip winter mileage. Your old non-hybrid was much worse only it didn't tell you most of the time. You northerners will not see much good mileage till spring when the weather warms and you get better at being a hybrid driver. Since new, my EPA 39 mpg 2010 has done 41 mpg. in FL. My hit is in the summer with AC but that is somewhat mitigated by the better warm weather mpg. The most economical outside temperature with AC on is about 90-95 d. F. Above that the AC becomes a hog. Don't worry about the winter.

[cajodhya]

lolder: great info there, thank you. Your 'nothereners will not....until spring..." comment made me happy knowing that there is a high possibility we will see better mpg performance later on.

 

i will say that since using the pulse and glide more, i have seen improvements. Same trip that last week rated 46.3 mpg, we got 52.7 mpg last night (same route, same speeds). I have much to learn from the veteran hybrid owners i see.

Edited November 11, 2012 by cajodhya

[lolder]

If you avoid charging and discharging the HVB, ( there are arrows on the HVB gauge in the first gen. FFH ) during P & G, you will get maximum economy as you are avoiding the generate/charge/discharge/motor EV cycle. This has more loss than ICE direct mechanical drive mode. You'll probably get almost 30 % more mpg. that way. It is tedious doing that type of P & G and varying the speed and diverts your attention from the road. I can get 60-70 mpg. doing that at 25-35 mph in my 2010 FFH with no AC.

[B25Nut]

I just took the time to do a city test. Some stop and go and speeds of 30-40 mph. I went a total of 9.7 miles that included retracing my path so that climbs and descents balanced out. I am now a true believer.......53.2 mpg. When I ended the battery still had 2/3 of its charge.

I am amazed by the brakes. You should find that you will make your smoothest stops ever. The only thing I'm missing is the Ambient Lighting. Please Ford, make this available in the non-Titanium Fusions.

[coach81]

Holy cow, 53.2!!!! Amazing!!!! Thanks for the update, B.

[acdii]

I hate hills, but even with them the lifetime average on my 2010 is holding pretty steady at 38 and change. I have only owned it sine last Spetember, so more winter than summer temps, but summer was pretty consistent at 40 and change. I do more rural 55 MPH driving than anything else, and its much different than driving on the highway. When I drive the tollway I get 45-50 MPG, and when I can drive in suburban areas where the average is 35-45 I easily get 45 MPG. Unfortunately the roads I take every day undulate, so trying to maintain a steady speed and good FE, not that easy. I know which stretches give me poor MPG, so I tend to drive a bit faster on them, and more conservative on the roads I know give me the best FE, so goo dmix and anywhere from 38 to 43 MPG depending on the temps.

 

Rain however kills the MPG, no matter what I try, if the roads are wet, its like having a parachute on the car. Need new tires soon, so that might help.

 

When I first got the car, it had sat in a garage for a year, and only had 850 miles on it. It took at least 3500 miles before the MPG started to come up, and it wasn't until it reached 13K that it became consistent. My only complaints on the car is the handling, and that wimpy growl from the engine. I've been trying to find aftermarket springs for it, but no luck.

[dnamit73]

Glad I founb this topic. I've had a 2010 FFH since April. I live in Massachusets. Through the middle of October, I was getting 41 mpg. Since then, it has been 35. I was worried something was drastically wrong. Can't wait for the spring to crack the 40 mpg again.

[jeff_h]

Glad I founb this topic. I've had a 2010 FFH since April. I live in Massachusets. Through the middle of October, I was getting 41 mpg. Since then, it has been 35. I was worried something was drastically wrong. Can't wait for the spring to crack the 40 mpg again.

 

Yep, the MPG takes a hit in the colder weather, and also takes a hit in really hot weather... otherwise it's good.