Cabin heat

[AptosDriver]

Question: When you start up the FFH on cold days, and especially if you then drive on surface streets at slow speeds and the FFH is mainly powered by its electric motor, what generates heat for the climate-control system? Can the electric motor do it, or is there some kind of electric heating coil that warms the system's air, or does the ICE kick in to supply it? Just asking ...:unsure:

[rfruth]

gut feeling here, its 100 % ICE via the heater core (like just gas models)

[AptosDriver]

gut feeling here, its 100 % ICE via the heater core (like just gas models)

Well, it seems to be more complicated than that, as I discovered in another topic on this forum, here. It involves a trade-off between warmth and gas mileage. The answer for those whose cars have the right options seems to be seat heaters.

[lolder]

The ICE supplies all the heat for the forced air climate control and will cause the ICE to run even at a stop until the ICE warms up enough to satisfy the heat demand. This is the principal cause of lower mileage for cold, short trips.

[eneg]

Yup, the car cannot be driven in EV mode until it is warmed up.

After car is started, the ICE will come on and stay on until the normal operating temperature is reached.

 

If gasoline keeps on rising, there will be no deals on these cars.

You might want to rethink your position. . .

 

Good luck,

 

Eneg

[Herdmaster73]

:shift:

 

The ICE starts up and runs until the engine has reached the proper operating themperature which one can monitor by the temperature gauge. Like all vechiels, there will be a hit to the MPG but not as BAD as a pure ICE vechicle since the EV will kick in as soon as the ICE temperature has been reached.

 

Having been in a traffic jam due to a wreck on a very COLD day I noticed that the EV worked as long as the temperature was at or above the operating level and the ICE started running only the bring the teperature back up above the required minimum level.

Bottom line I was still getting a lot better MPG than all the running ICE cars that were sitting in the jam with me.

[rpoffen]

:shift:

 

The ICE starts up and runs until the engine has reached the proper operating themperature which one can monitor by the temperature gauge. Like all vechiels, there will be a hit to the MPG but not as BAD as a pure ICE vechicle since the EV will kick in as soon as the ICE temperature has been reached.

 

Having been in a traffic jam due to a wreck on a very COLD day I noticed that the EV worked as long as the temperature was at or above the operating level and the ICE started running only the bring the teperature back up above the required minimum level.

Bottom line I was still getting a lot better MPG than all the running ICE cars that were sitting in the jam with me.

 

I saw the same type of thing when coming down from the western Sierra to the Bay Area in California after Thanksgiving. Started at about 3500 feet altitude with the temperature in the high 20's (snowed all weekend), the ICE kicked in quite a bit even though it is all downhill because it could not stay warm!