rfruth Report post Posted October 17, 2010 NASCAR is going to start using E15 next year and they say it should give racecars slightly more HP without sacrificing fuel mileage, its corn based so how is that ? e15 link Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazztrumpet216 Report post Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) NASCAR is going to start using E15 next year and they say it should give racecars slightly more HP without sacrificing fuel mileage, its corn based so how is that ? e15 link When ethanol is used in higher compression engines, it is possible to achieve similar or even slightly better fuel economy due to it's high octane rating. The downside is that tuning an engine in this fashion means it will no longer run properly on regular gas, which is why you don't see daily drivers tuned like this. Corn ethanol is the same as any other kind of ethanol, btw. Doesn't matter where it comes from, it just matters what it gets turned into. Edited October 17, 2010 by jazztrumpet216 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buster1 Report post Posted October 17, 2010 I like it. Now they need to lose the carburators and get into the 21st century. It's good to advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rfruth Report post Posted October 17, 2010 Corn ethanol is the same as any other kind of ethanol, btw. Doesn't matter where it comes from, it just matters what it gets turned into. hey jazz if ethanol is ethanol why all the talk about corn vs cellulosic http://www.hybridcars.com/news/corn-and-cellulosic-ethanol-fight-viability-government-favor-28237.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jazztrumpet216 Report post Posted October 17, 2010 hey jazz if ethanol is ethanol why all the talk about corn vs cellulosic http://www.hybridcars.com/news/corn-and-cellulosic-ethanol-fight-viability-government-favor-28237.html Cellulosic ethanol derives from cellulose, something found in many waste products. You don't get as much yield from cellulosic ethanol as you do from sugar-based ethanol (corn, in our case), but you can make it from things that won't compete with the food supply or deplete aquifers. You could literally make cellulosic ethanol from yard waste. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulosic_ethanol As far as the car is concerned, ethanol is ethanol. Doesn't matter where it comes from. You're talking about the process by which ethanol is made. The car doesn't care, there is no difference in MPG. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rfruth Report post Posted October 17, 2010 your right but since cellulosic ethanol can be made from waste its better in my mind, it was misleading of me to say better MPG from cellulosic ethanol, sorry bout that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lolder Report post Posted October 18, 2010 Koch Industries, the second largest private US conglomerate, bought Georgia Pacific, a wood fiber products company a few years ago. They felt that ethanol production from wood industry waste products would become profitable. They feel the chemical processes necessary for efficient ethanol production are still many years off but since they are a non-public company, they can do things long term. This is the real promise of ethanol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimFFH Report post Posted October 18, 2010 When I saw the news, I was thinking, are they really trying to get with the times? Not really, but they are trying to be environmentally conscious. I used to be a big fan in the 80-90s until it got all blown up and Fox took it over. I think its outdated, peaked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
