Intake 2010 Fusion 3.0

[Oldguy16]

I have a question for somebody. I have a 2010 Fusion SEL with the 3.0 v6. I'm looking to get an intake for it. K&N apparently only makes it for the 2006 to 2009 Fusions, but it seems as if the engines are exact. I know for 2010 Ford added vvt to the 3.0, but I was wondering if the intake would still fit? I know Steeda also makes an intake for the 09 Fusion, will that fit? Any help would be appreciated. thanks

[fusionff]

Steeda does have one listed for 2010 3.0 engine, same product number as the Gen1.

 

http://www.steedafusion.com/store/2010-Fusion-Products-Induction-&-Tuning-Steeda-Cold-Air-Kits/c135_182_185/index.html

Edited April 15, 2010 by fusionff

[Oldguy16]

Steeda does have one listed for 2010 3.0 engine, same product number as the Gen1.

 

http://www.steedafusion.com/store/2010-Fusion-Products-Induction-&-Tuning-Steeda-Cold-Air-Kits/c135_182_185/index.html

 

I saw that one, thank you. I was curious to know if the K&N one fit also cause K&N is a much better known brand, but many people here say to just get the steeda. Although I have excellent experience with K&N.

[DJE]

I doubt the K&N will fit the 2010. I'm not sure but I think they moved the throttle. Steeda would probably work because it basically just swaps the stock box out.

[hairen]

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Edited July 21, 2010 by hairen

[Oldguy16]

I bought the Steeda, it fit, sounds great

[!!!]

I bought the Steeda, it fit, sounds great

 

Other than the sound, have you noticed any improvement?

[Oldguy16]

Other than the sound, have you noticed any improvement?

A tiny bit of torque improvement at low rpm's, other than that I don't see much power. I just love the sound

[!!!]

A tiny bit of torque improvement at low rpm's, other than that I don't see much power. I just love the sound

 

On previous vehicles I saw a 2-3 mpg improvement, a little more power, and yes - the sound. I ordered the Steeda for my Milan.

[Oldguy16]

I would love to say the mileage is better but 2 problems with this. One, I love this damn intake so much it makes me drive faster and therefore my mileage drops. However, I did do some real comparison's, switching to airbox, same routes driving same style, the Intake did about a 1mpg improvement max. I still find it a great investment. But I hope all goes well with your installation and such. Mine was extremely easy, very logical, you don't need directions, especially if you've done it before.

[Kaleb]

I should've chimed in earlier. I emailed K&N and asked them if the Gen 1 intake would fit on the 2010 and they say something to the effect of "we haven't tried it, it probably won't work."

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The Steeda dropped right in. No problems.

[Kaleb]

My question is, How are these actually beneficial? The point is to get cooler air. How does moving the intake from the bottom of the car, to 6 inches away from the engine supply cooler air? Even with the box around it I just don't understand how you can get cooler air? I've seen the Dyno graphs and they all say a CAI gives a little more horse power but could someone fill me in on how these things supply cooler air?

[!!!]

My question is, How are these actually beneficial? The point is to get cooler air. How does moving the intake from the bottom of the car, to 6 inches away from the engine supply cooler air? Even with the box around it I just don't understand how you can get cooler air? I've seen the Dyno graphs and they all say a CAI gives a little more horse power but could someone fill me in on how these things supply cooler air?

 

Two points actually; cooler air, and more air.

The Steeda intake is actually in the same place as the stock intake. It seems to get the air from the same place as well - under the left fender. It may get more air from the front when the car is moving, which might make it cooler. I honestly couldn't say from looking at how it is set up whether it is getting cooler air or not.

Based on seat-of-the pants dyno testing, it is definitely getting more air when there is a demand for it.

[IDONTOWNAFORD]

Two points actually; cooler air, and more air.

The Steeda intake is actually in the same place as the stock intake. It seems to get the air from the same place as well - under the left fender. It may get more air from the front when the car is moving, which might make it cooler. I honestly couldn't say from looking at how it is set up whether it is getting cooler air or not.

Based on seat-of-the pants dyno testing, it is definitely getting more air when there is a demand for it.

 

Please THINK before you talk. Cooler air is more dense. Therefore more air gets into the cylinders PER UNIT VOLUME. There is also WAYYYY more surface area on an inverted, tapered cone filter, like the STEEEEDA, compared with the stock airbox's crossetional intake area. The heat "sheeld" helps a little in cooling down the air, but it doesn't do much. The point is that the engine is breathing through a 6" PVC pipe and not through a straw. It doesn't WASTE hp trying to get air.

 

So then Joe shmoe axs: "Well gee golly gosh mister sir, why wouldn't cars already come with cai?"

 

Answer is that whiny americans want quiet cars and intakes are too loud and obnoxious for them...and yet they still buy loud ass 2011 Mustang 5000's. Please hold your applause.

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Please THINK before you talk. Cooler air is more dense. Therefore more air gets into the cylinders PER UNIT VOLUME. There is also WAYYYY more surface area on an inverted, tapered cone filter, like the STEEEEDA, compared with the stock airbox's crossetional intake area. The heat "sheeld" helps a little in cooling down the air, but it doesn't do much. The point is that the engine is breathing through a 6" PVC pipe and not through a straw. It doesn't WASTE hp trying to get air.

 

So then Joe shmoe axs: "Well gee golly gosh mister sir, why wouldn't cars already come with cai?"

 

Answer is that whiny americans want quiet cars and intakes are too loud and obnoxious for them...and yet they still buy loud ass 2011 Mustang 5000's. Please hold your applause.

 

WTH? How about if you read and think before you write? It gets more air, due to more surface area, obviously.

 

I'm not sure it's cooler in this case, so density might not be a factor. The heat "sheeld" (what is that, Canadian?) does not "cool down the air" unless the material it is made of has some magical properties.

 

Waste horsepower trying to get more air? Where does the horsepower go, around to the trunk looking for air? How about the engine does not produce as much horsepower because it can't get enough air.

 

You are obnoxious.

Edited December 4, 2010 by !!!

[Oldguy16]

+1 LOL!!!! Going around the trunk looking for air...I love it

[Kaleb]

well, uh, thanks for the responses. I understand that cooler air is denser and therefore more can fit in the cylinders. That's just physics. My question was, since the intake is positioned from the under the fender, to inside the engine bay with a box, how does that translate to cooler air.

[Oldguy16]

well, uh, thanks for the responses. I understand that cooler air is denser and therefore more can fit in the cylinders. That's just physics. My question was, since the intake is positioned from the under the fender, to inside the engine bay with a box, how does that translate to cooler air.

To be 100% honest, I don't believe the steeda provides any cooler air, just allows better airflow because the filter is bigger. I'm not an expert in physics but you can't cool down air by boxing it out, you just stop airflow, the idea is that the hot air stops at the shield. In reality, the shield doesn't really stop the air because aluminum is a terrible insulator. all sides of the intake would have to be shielded and insulated like crazy to keep all the heat the engine creates from entering the intake tube. I'm goin with more air, not really colder.

[Kaleb]

To be 100% honest, I don't believe the steeda provides any cooler air, just allows better airflow because the filter is bigger. I'm not an expert in physics but you can't cool down air by boxing it out, you just stop airflow, the idea is that the hot air stops at the shield. In reality, the shield doesn't really stop the air because aluminum is a terrible insulator. all sides of the intake would have to be shielded and insulated like crazy to keep all the heat the engine creates from entering the intake tube. I'm goin with more air, not really colder.

 

The website claims for 5 to 10 degrees lower temperature, but I assume airflow would make for of a difference than density.

[IDONTOWNAFORD]

 

WTH? How about if you read and think before you write? It gets more air, due to more surface area, obviously.

 

I'm not sure it's cooler in this case, so density might not be a factor. The heat "sheeld" (what is that, Canadian?) does not "cool down the air" unless the material it is made of has some magical properties.

 

Waste horsepower trying to get more air? Where does the horsepower go, around to the trunk looking for air? How about the engine does not produce as much horsepower because it can't get enough air.

 

You are obnoxious.

 

"It gets more air, due to more surface area, obviously."

 

That is exactly what I said you repetitive person.

 

"How about the engine does not produce as much horsepower because it can't get enough air."

 

Again, exactly what I said, but phrased backwards. A=B or B=A. Same thing. Engine can't get enough air, producing less hp. Engine doesn't produce enough hp because it can't get enough air.

 

"The heat "sheeld" (what is that, Canadian?) does not "cool down the air" unless the material it is made of has some magical properties."

 

WRONG! Unless the magical properties (American term???) you're referring to are those of common metals. And the heat shield prevents the hot air from radiating from the engine to the air filter. IT SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWS DOWN THE RADIATION OF HOT AIR TO THE INTAKE. You think STEEEEEDA just put a piece of metal there for no reason? OH, LET'S PUT THIS SHINY METAL HERE SO AMERICANS THINK IT LOOKS GOOD AND WILL BUY OUR INTAKE. You really think like a child.

 

You need to learn to read, boy, not just look at the words and see what you want to see.Unless you're retarded, in which case I feel sorry for you.,

Edited December 5, 2010 by IDONTOWNAFORD

[IDONTOWNAFORD]

In reality, the shield doesn't really stop the air because aluminum is a terrible insulator.

 

Ok, and how do you know that? Did you measure the specific heat capacity of aluminum? Did you even bother to look it up? Or did you just touch the heat shield and say "oh gee this metal is hot and therefore is a terrible insulator."

 

The specific heat capacity of aluminum is 0.91 Kilojoules / Kilogram Kelvin). Look it up.

 

For comparison, Styrofoam, which is generally regarded as an excellent insulator, has a specific heat capacity of 1.3 Kilograms / Kilogram Kelvin and Iron has a specific heat capacity of 0.46 Kilojoules / Kilogram Kelvin.

 

Well, Aluminum is actually a great insulator, but you never even bothered to look it up, just assumed the fact and based it on absolutely nothing. You should be a politician.

Edited December 5, 2010 by IDONTOWNAFORD

[!!!]

Ok, and how do you know that? Did you measure the specific heat capacity of aluminum? Did you even bother to look it up? Or did you just touch the heat shield and say "oh gee this metal is hot and therefore is a terrible insulator."

 

The specific heat capacity of aluminum is 0.91 Kilojoules / Kilogram Kelvin). Look it up.

 

For comparison, Styrofoam, which is generally regarded as an excellent insulator, has a specific heat capacity of 1.3 Kilograms / Kilogram Kelvin and Iron has a specific heat capacity of 0.46 Kilojoules / Kilogram Kelvin.

 

Well, Aluminum is actually a great insulator, but you never even bothered to look it up, just assumed the fact and based it on absolutely nothing. You should be a politician.

 

Aluminum is a good heat conductor, not an insulator.

 

One day you will be old enough to buy a car.

 

You are still obnoxious.