B25Nut Report post Posted January 21, 2016 I think we need a Lolder analysis of the Chrysler hybrid system. http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1101960_2017-chrysler-pacifica-hybrid-more-details-on-30-mile-plug-in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted January 21, 2016 I think this will be a great option if priced right. Chrysler should price it so that the PHEV costs only minimally more than the regular minivan after the $7500 tax credit. My parents have been looking for something to replace their 2005 Nissan Murano & this looks like a great option to join their C-Max Energi in their garage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talmy Report post Posted January 21, 2016 From the description it sounds like the Toyota system but for the clutch -- I'm not sure what that is about. I'm not going to say "Ford" here because the Fusion tends to run the ICE at high output or not at all (it will rarely balance the engine output to the demand at the road) while the Chrysler and Toyota appear to run the ICE over a wider range. The use of a V6 instead of a 4 reminds me of the Highlander Hybrid which other than the engine had the same platform as the Camry Hybrid. IMHO as a vehicle for "Soccer Moms" I'd think a 4 would be fine. It's not going to be used for drag racing. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElectricFan69 Report post Posted January 22, 2016 From the description it sounds like the Toyota system but for the clutch -- I'm not sure what that is about. I'm not going to say "Ford" here because the Fusion tends to run the ICE at high output or not at all (it will rarely balance the engine output to the demand at the road) while the Chrysler and Toyota appear to run the ICE over a wider range. The use of a V6 instead of a 4 reminds me of the Highlander Hybrid which other than the engine had the same platform as the Camry Hybrid. IMHO as a vehicle for "Soccer Moms" I'd think a 4 would be fine. It's not going to be used for drag racing.The weakness/compromise of the Aisin PSD design is that you can't combine MG1 and MG2 output to drive wheels. The one-way-clutch is a way to work around that. A related issue is the electrical energy consumption of the setup at steady cruise speed - which, if worked around effectively, could improve high-speed cruise by several MPG. Against that, a one-way-clutch brings complication and a failure point. It'll be interesting to see the final FE ratings of the setup. Perhaps unfortunate for Chrysler, they're releasing the vehicle into a period of low fuel prices, which will limit the take rate. If they can manage to have EPA ratings in the high 20's / low 30's it would be a game changer - and a compelling value for a relatively fuelish segment. We also have an Explorer in the family, and the fuel consumption of the vehicle is a decided downside (20 MPG is SO 1980's) - made a bit less so by the current dip in fuel cost. But the next time fuel spikes to $5/gal, this will be a good choice for carpool duty, provided they can get the price point into the affordable zone. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
talmy Report post Posted January 22, 2016 Crude oil prices jumped up yesterday, so there is hope! (Never thought I'd root for high gas prices.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
