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Trigger1937

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  1. Gry Sql,..Thanks for your support. The sad news is that I have also talked to a lot of other FFH owners and they didn't know about their own car,..yet they were not that concerned. They look back at the years they have had new cars and most of them never had a problem,..so they feel safe. One of them is my own Daughter and I could not convince her husband to even consider a Spare. Only so much a Dad can do. Awhile back I got a Survey question from Ford and at the end it provided space for me to add some comments. I told them how displeased I was that at the time I purchased the car there was no one mention that the car did not have a spare,..let alone any jack. I felt it should have been a mandatory requirement that I sign some acknowledgement that I was informed and accepted the condition. The truth is that they can't even sell you a spare tire at the time of purchase since the manual for the FFH has not one word of instructions or space to re-arrange the car to accommodate the spare. They put themselves in a corner once they decided to eliminate the item from the car and their entire parts structure. Yes they know that the FF spare tire will work,..but most of the dealers are totally confused as to what functions of the tire pressure sensor or the Traction control system will do,..and they have no instruction or "Talking points" from HQ on what to say about it. I spent an hour with the sales manager and another 1/2 hour at the Parts desk and the only "Straight answer" I got from both of them was,.."Yes there is no spare for the FFH and no you can't order won since there is no part number for one." I'm also supprised that they also haven't issued some legal warning about how the car's warranty will be void if you do use a spare tire. It is clear this is not about Ford saving $250 per car on a car that cost $32000. It is all about meeting the mileage goals and Federal mileage standards the government has set for each MFg. I still love my car but I would still really like to know what idiot thought this whole idea up and who approved it. I also look forward to the day they figure out how to correct it.
  2. First I want to thank all of the people that have contributed to this thread and all the information about Ford fusion Hybrid and the spare tire issue. My FFH is 2014 and when I bought it I was totally unaware that it did not have a spare. I discovered the sad news when my wife drove into a brick curb at an angle and punchured the sidewall of the left front tire. She made it back to our driveway and I was really shocked when I opened the trunk and found not spare "+ NO JACK OR WRENCH". I called local tire store to get the exact tire and was told that would take about a week and the cost would be about $270 M&B, I found another store 37 miles away that said if I ordered right now they would have it by 9 AM tomorrow,..so I ordered it. I got out my hydraulic jack and discovered that with the tire flat the car was too low to get the jack under the body. So I said,..what the heck, I been a member of AAA road service for 15 years,..might at well use That. So I called them and ask them to come to my house and remove the tire. They said,.."Does your car have a spare?" ,...if not we will not come to your house. We will come and tow the car to your local dealer. For more money we will tow the car to the nearest Ford dealer. But since I had already ordered an "Exact match new tire",..that was not a solution. You can imagine how ^$@% I was. Their excuse was they could not leave my car jacked up in the driveway on their equipment for a whole day or more because of the liability. I got the jack out of my Dodge Caravan and found a place to get it under the car and jacked it up. I also have an old tire wrench that has all 4 nut sizes so I got the tire off and next morning took the tire to the new shop (Walmart) to mount and balance the new EXACT tire. The total cost of the Michilin X was $212 M&B. After reading every post on this forum (which took a couple of days) I decided I didn't want to pay Ford a lot of money just for a Donut Spare plus I wanted to get the correct size of tire. As many of you already know that is not as easy as it sounds. The 2013, 2014 FF has changed the lug nut spacing to 5 lugs at 4.25" and nothing else will fit so all of the older fusions are no help at all. After a couple of weeks of searching the web and reading this forum,..and walking through all the local Wrecking yards I could not find the right tire. I also searched every bit of eBay and no one had the right tire. Many people had created a list of cars that use the 16" rim and the 5 lug-4.25" spacing and that helped a lot. The problem is 98% of those cars don't have a spare of the correct size. I almost gave up and decided to just by any tire with the correct rim and order a new tire from the tire rack, but by the time I added up all that cost and the new M&B cost it would be very close to just getting one at the Ford dealer. I had almost given up but did one more search for Wrecking Yards and I found one in Spokane, Washington that was so large it was impossible that they would have the correct tire. It turns out that the Ford Taurus 2000-2007 spare tire has the 16" rim and 5x4.25" spacing. I searched the inventory of the dealer in Spokane and they had in stock 26 cars that match my need and all had the spare tire. The bad news is that only the 2003 Taurus had the tire size of 145/80/16 which matches exactly the 2013-14 FF Spare tire. Their price was $58.75 including shipping via FedEx. This tire will be 25.13" dia and therefore is 0.76" smaller than the 225/50/17 tires on my FFH. That I can live with. It should all be here before Friday. I have been in a panic to get a spare every since the blowout. I just can't imagine drive 600 miles across mountains and through the desert with no spare. If you hit something on the road and you have a blow out the best that any FFH owner can do it call road service and wait on the side of the road and then be towed to some gas station where they DON'T have the correct tire, then get a motel room and then what. You may have to be towed to the nearest town that has a Ford dealer and then take a Cab to some hotel and wait at least a day to get your car back. All because you don't have a spare. Some people are very lucky and own a new car for 10 years and never have a flat. We had our new FFH for just over one year and had the sidewall punchure. So my suggestion is to contact the Spalding Wrecking Yard in Spokane, Wa. Be aware that 90% of the cars that have the correct rim size of 16" and 5x4.25 will not have the correct size tire you need so you have to make sure before you buy it. Good Luck.
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