Fusion_Diffusion

How often do you cross a desert?

Found a great, light-weight box measuring 35"X18"X6.5" online at 'The container store' and with a 24" flat bungee cord from 'Home Depot', I got all my stuff up above the HVB shelf and out of the way... After being upset for a while for not having a spare tire, I realized that actually, it's better this way. In 40+ years of driving, I can count on two fingers the times I had to change a tire on the side of the road. Usually what happens is a nail that would cause a slow leak, giving me plenty of time and driving distance to take care of it without using the spare. Why lug around a 20-30 Lb. spare for the next 10 years if the odds of needing it are so small. I do carry a jack and a repair kit but hope I never have to use them...

Thanks 'acdii', I think this is what I described in previous post #28 "It almost sounds like the pump was building up to get to a certain pressure, maybe in the tank or in the fuel lines and needs the two stops to get it just right." When I called my service adviser, he looked up my VIN and said there are no recalls or updates but said he'll call me if more people had the same issue and if Ford has a 'fix'. I didn't check again for it lately but since it has no adverse effect on performance, I'm not concerned.

I only had my FFH for 3 months so posting here is a bit premature but I think 'B25Nut' first post is exactly how I would write mine in about 9 months... There is nothing like the feeling that you've made the right decision...

I think you are right, 'B25Nut'. It probably is the HVB fan. I was out in my garage again tonight, finally installing my license plates (which I was avoiding for 2 months so I won't appear on 'Stop Light Cameras',) and just moving the car 1 foot back, without the ICE at all, the noise came on about 5 min. later. Again the first time for about 8 minutes, short stop and again for about 2 minutes and after a short break again for about a minute. Before it started the third time, it made a sound like that of a ceiling fan when you push the 'change direction' button while it's in motion. That last revolution, right when it stops and goes the other way. I don't think a fuel pump would make that kind of sound. Going to call my service advisor at Galpin Ford tomorrow and he'll probably call the tech people to get an answer for me.

The noise is so faint that even while knowing it's there, I couldn't hear it from inside the car. My guess is that more FFH cars are doing this but because you need complete silence to hear it and because most drivers don't stay by their cars 5 min. after turning it off, many are missing it. As long as it doesn't have any negative effects on performance or mileage, I'm not too concerned about it for now...

Fuel pump needing 10 min. to pump for any reason after turning the car off or HVB fan cooling a 'cold car', both don't make sense. I hope it goes away for me like it did for 'Boat Racer' but will continue to listen for it.

Thank you 'Boat Racer', If I end up going to the dealer and fixing this, I'll be happy to share. It almost sounds like the pump was building up to get to a certain pressure, maybe in the tank or in the fuel lines and needs the two stops to get it just right. If not for the dead silent garage at 2 a.m. and me needing to go back out to the car 5 min. after turning it off, I probably wouldn't have heard it. So maybe it was there all along or maybe it just started two weeks ago after I got the update.

I skipped this forum in the past, thinking it doesn't apply to me but last night after a 60 mile trip and parking the car in my garage, I heard it. I came out to put something in the car and heard it coming from near the fuel door. It was very late and even with getting an extra hour for turning the clocks back, I decided to leave it alone and went to bed. I just remembered it now and took the car to the corner and back to force the ICE to come on, if just for a minute. After about 6 min. I heard it again for about 8 min. and than it turned off and back on again for about 2 min. Than again for the third time for about a minute and then off for good. It's very hard to hear from inside the car, even with the seat backs folded down. (Ford did a great job insulating the cabin….) When I crawled under the car the noise was much more pronounced. The point here is that it happened even when the car was warm, after a 60 mile trip, so maybe a cold car is not a requirement. I'll keep listening and see if it goes away or if I need to visit the dealer.

WoW, Thanks hybridbear, I guess I should have read the manual...

It still takes me a while to find the keyhole without the ring of light I had with my previous car, but I'm getting closer every time. While I agree with many of the previous suggestions, like LED's, more positions on the passenger seat, spare tire, Etc, I still love my FFH and think it's an amazing car. For my own two cents, I'd like more room to rest my left foot if it's not too much to ask and maybe a sun-visor extender so the sun doesn't hit my face from the side every morning. Either the visors on the FFH are very short or I sit very far from the steering wheel or both, but I'm on the lookout for an after-market add on. On a Hybrid note, the arrows above and below the battery icon would make more sense to me if they were both pointing down. The arrow below the battery would indicate energy leaving the battery (just like it does now,) and if the arrow above would also point down, it would indicate energy entering the battery. This way, the arrows will represent energy, either going in or coming out and we will know right away if we are 'spending' energy or 'making' energy.

For all you guys who like to pull out the dangle as soon as you're done, the skinny "Quick Reference Guide" on page 12 says to wait 10 seconds from the time the nozzle shuts-off till you remove it. That cigarette can wait...

The capless hole does look delicate and like you, I wouldn't dare 'experiment' with exotic angles....

The Angle of the Dangle has a lot to do with how much you can pump into the tank before the first click. If you use the latch and pump 'hands-free' the nozzle will sit limp and click sooner than if you hold it up and shoot downward into the tank. Try and see how it works.

Steering Wheel looks familiar... http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/AlIQ0nl0.GCTrDbeFF1cMg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYwOQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-US/blogs/motoramic/i8gallerycomb-copy.jpg

How far past zero did you drive? I drove 57 miles past 0 DTE thinking I had 80 miles available, (2 gal. 'reserve' X 40MPG). Really lucked out needing only 57 to get to the gas station. Pumping 13.444 gal. into the tank meant I was cutting it real close.

On my very first tank last week I got to the gas station with a single digit of DTE. I was only able to put 11.5 gal. into the tank and figured Ford keeps two gallons as 'reserve'. I left Palm Springs yesterday with a quarter tank left on the gauge and 135 miles to get home. There was 90 miles DTE and the yellow warning light came on with about 40 DTE. I felt 'safe' continuing past 0 DTE since I knew I had two more gallons in the tank, based on my first fill-up last week. Below 0 DTE the yellow warning light with the gas station icon turns red and I was glad my girlfriend was asleep. when I got home and put 13.44 gal. in the tank, I realized it's better to be lucky than good/smart. Now I know. (till next time...)