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rjent

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  1. A lot of variables, but I think you would be fine. Do you have any more info? Were the batteries kept charged, left to completely discharge? Either way, with the right money, I think you will be fine .. JMHO :)
  2. Some testing has been done to recapture much of the exhaust heat with different devices and convert it back into electricity charging the HVB. One experiment comes to mind of diesel trucks improving mileage by 30 percent by recovering the heat energy.
  3. Use "L" as much as possible. Low give you the maximum braking without friction as you can get. Just remember, it doesn't take long to recharge a hybrid's battery, so when the battery is charged back up, your engine will come on to brake with compression.
  4. In a word (OK two :) ) .... Slow Down. To maximize the milage you need to keep your speed at about 63 MPH. There is a lot of debate over that speed, but I know first hand that it works. My fusion ('13) got mid to high 40's driving like that, and yes I drove many "back" roads and stayed off the freeways. My Energi get upper 40's and 50's (depending on conditions) because you get to "cheat" by having 20 to 35 miles of "free" driving. My advice to you, is to just prove it to yourself. Give yourself extra time for the trip, lay out a route that will let you drive 50 to 60 MPH and you can achieve 60 plus over 100 miles (plus or minus) almost every time. JMHO
  5. By robust I mean you can feel it slowing down more aggressively. ro·bustrōˈbəst,ˈrōˌbəst/adjective strong and healthy; vigorous. "the Caplans are a robust, healthy lot" synonyms: strong, vigorous, sturdy, tough, powerful, solid, muscular, sinewy, rugged,hardy, strapping, brawny, burly, husky, heavily built; Let's face it, if we put our Mother In Law (just joking :) ) in the back set in a hybrid, we would add the same weight of the batteries in the Energi. I am feeling a much more vigorous deceleration rate and I am watching the hybrid engine/battery process in hybrid mode simply act differently (better) than the '13 HyTi .... and my numbers are proving it to be true as my mileage is higher when in hybrid mode. Hell, maybe they have done something new in the '16???? :D
  6. By the book, that may be true, but, like I said, since I have had experience in both cars now, the "perception" is that the Energi has a dramatically different reaction to deceleration and braking. It is more robust, and it seems to put more charge into the "hybrid" portion of the battery than the FFH did. It may be the different final drive ratio, but I think the numbers prove that the car is more efficient, at least so far in my experience ... :thumbsup:
  7. I am convinced that the Energi can recover much much more energy on decel and braking because it can throw so much more current at the larger battery pack. When you brake for a stop light/sign you feel a much more aggressive deceleration without using the brake pedal at all. i think it is where a lot of the efficiency comes from. It has been dissucssed that the most efficient mode is the engine running and charging the batteries. My theory is that again, the battery pack can accept more current, therefor store more energy quicker, and thus over all efficiency is higher. I know that the engine starts more often (in hybrid mode) for less time, and the car will go EV for longer periods of time (again in hybrid mode). Example of an MPGe, but do the math, you only get about 1/2 gallon of gas equivilent in the Energi batter pack. These numbers don't add up using just a "free" half gallon ..... ;) This is a round trip on reletively flat ground with both Interstate (63 MPH ecocruise) and 2 lane federal highways (55 MPH ecocruise).
  8. When we brought our FFE home, our charger did not work (bad cord). We drove it for 3 weeks without being able to charge. We on the average got well over the FFH's effeciency (mostly over 50). Bringing it home (160 miles) with no charge, we achieved 57 MPG (that is MPG and not MPGe because it was not charged up). There was no tailwind, no headwind, just perfect driving conditions in late evening. You have to remember this is a new 16 and not "broken" in. Our FFH didn't really start to work the best until 10K miles. The hybrid part in the Energi is much more "aggressive" in both charging and discharging. The only way we could get a charge on the battery, at first, was to go over (and back) a local mountain pass and let the car charge during decent both ways. After putting 15 miles of charge were we able to even feel the joy of EV driving. Taking it back to the dealership to get the cord replaced, we again did over 50 without EV. and then got over 60 on the way back, pushing a headwind and with a full charge, and have been enjoying 50+ MPG since. I think Ford underrated the FFE because of being gun shy over the 47/47/47. I think these cars are now "rated" to wow you. I think Ford knows they will far exceed the EPA numbers with this car and it was done on purpose. Anyway, JMHO :) I am one happy camper! :love_shower:
  9. About time. Of course, every time Ford starts racing, they like beat everyone (Cobra, GT40, etc) and then they get outlawed or crippled so bad they can't compete. Wonder how long it will be this time before Enzo's ghost starts whining and pressuring the committee for rule changes? I am looking forward to seeing them compete. I predict a total domination by Ford. That EcoBoost power is pretty amazing .... (Sorry Sleddog LOL)
  10. I just sold our FFH '13 to carmax. Got what I expected, was a simple and quick transaction. I would NEVER sell to a private buyer again .... Period LOL
  11. I am getting across the board far better mileage (you can call it MPGe or MPG or whatever you want) than my '13 FFH. Far better. i would never go back to a straight Hybrid. I think the '16 FFE we just bought will be actually better on long runs (we do at least two a year) than the FFH. We drive it easy (never over 63 on the Interstates (a few exceptions but very rare), as much secondary highways as possible, and we work hard at keeping our driving scores high). It is not hard to do, and is actually fun, adds spice to driving in general! JMHO :)
  12. I vote the Energi. I just traded (sold to CarMax) a '13 HyTi and leased an Energi Titanium. They have a 6000 dollar incentive going until July, it is what made me jump. Like HB says, an electric would do what you are presenting, but you are limited to the immediate area of where you live. The Energi is a good choice for both worlds. JMHO
  13. Well hell, I might as well sell my computer .... :drop:
  14. The trouble with using zip codes, while driving you don't always know that, and it could be difficult to find the correct zip code. Waldo, I did not know that, I will look for that option. I have always sensed that it would be easier to use if the unit didn't try to "think" for you ;)
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