corvairbob

ok results quoted form the ford hybrids fuel economy website are now saying the fusion gets 36 to 40 trying real hard. i still maintain it should not be rocket science here. these cars should just be get in and go. and yes i do agree if you tend to have a lead foot then your mileage will be less but then that is true for every car you drive. we should not have to draft coast forever accellerate like we ate stepping on our balls not pump the tires up to exploding limits just to get the extra miles out of them. maybe they need to actually change the rules on how that mileage rating is ditermened and take the average. or better yet let consumer report give the ratings then it may be more to the real world. we get tons of people on both sites saying we have to drive way different. i drive like some 60 mph on the x-way watch for impending red lights ahead use cruse as much as i can start to coast before stops or exits but then you have to be safe in doing that. don't drag race to the next red light don't warm the car long if at all don't use a/c if i can go without and still i see poor mileage with a car designed to get more. i do better with the cobalt under the same conditions. and yes it is a bit smaller and lighter but way less costly to by up front also.

Here are some hybrid driving tips:1. Accelerate moderately with STEADY accelerator pressure. Do not try to keep tight spacing on the vehicle ahead. 2. Keep the number of ICE starts and stops to a minimum and avoid EV mode. Use EV for low speed, coasting and transient power demands. 3. Look ahead as far as you can see to traffic signals and coast to the next green. Brake early and lightly. Get your brake score to 100 %. 4. Turn off AC ( compressor ) in moderate temperatures and use ventilation. Don't use heat until ICE warms up from driving. Don't freeze either. 5. Keep to speed limits. Don't draft closely. Gains of 2-4 mpg. can be seen from drafting a van or SUV at proper highway spacing. 6. Keep tire pressures up. 40 psi. is a good compromise. 7. Don't drive in cold, rainy, windy weather, move to Florida 8. Have fun. The Ford hybrid is a high tech toy. Don't have an accident watching the video game. this exact same answer is on the Hyundai forum as well 2. take out the engine after all it wastes gas. and for heavens sake don't ever let the battery run the car 3. just as soon as you start from one red light take your foot off the gas and coast to the next one or better yet let the guy behind you push you to the next light 4. don't get a/c or heat after all if we want to save gas the next thing is a horse and buggy 5. nothing is gained at proper spacing on the x-way that 3-4 second interval will not get you anything. if you want to save gas and not let the power train work at all hook up to the car in front and let them pull you 6. tire at 40 could do it but if your on snow and ice might as will have hard rubber tires nor traction at all. 7. yep lets all move to the warmer belt and then let them all down there bitch because all the hybrid people moved in. 8. yep it is hy tech and all the money we paid for this hytech should be doing something beside making us all go back to drivers ed just to learn how to draft coast brake and get towed. come on now if this car only works for real in the moderate climate then maybe they should not be selling them in the hot or cold climates. or at least the dealers or manufactures need to be saying if you want the mileage drive it in the spring and fall other wide it gets what all the rest get 20-30 mpg. this exact same answer is on the hyundai forum as well 2. take out the engine after all it wastes gas. and for heavens sake don't ever let the battery run the car 3. just as soon as you start from one red light take your foot off the gas and coast to the next one or better yet let the guy behind you pust you to the next light 4. don't get a/c or heat after all if we want to save gas thenext thing is a horse and buggy 5. nothing is gained at proper spacing on the x-way that 3-4 second interval will not get you anyting. if you want to save gas and not let the power tran work at all hook up to the car in front and let them pull you 6. tire at 40 could do it but if your on snkw and ice might as will have hard rubber tires nor traction at all. 7. yep lets all move to the warmer belt and then let them all down ther bitch because allthe hybride people moved in. 8. yep it is hy tech and all the money we paid for this hytech sould be doing something beside making us all go back to driviers ed just o learn how to draft coast brake and get towed. come on now if this car only works for real in the moderate climated then maybe they should not be selling them in the hot or cold climates. or at least the dealers or manufactures need to be saying if you want the mileage drive it in the spring and fall other wide it gets what all the rest get 20-30 mpg.

ask that guy to trade cars with you and challenge him to get your car up to the miles he gets? I did this with a geo metro once and I could not get any takers. they all told me they got 45 to 55 mpg with their cars I had 7 of them and none got over 30. I finally gave up and sold all of them because they all were in a pi@#$%^ contest to see who could say they were getting better mileage. these people all tell us we don't know how to drive. the car is different. don't do this and that. it is a car it should not break and all parts should work as stated. would not have to inflate the tires rock hard coast 3/4's of the way to a red light (but is better on mpg's) and drive 55 on the x-way. I drive 60 and still don't see the differences they all claim to get. I get better mileage with my cobalt 30 plus on the x-way doing 60 mph. and a get the 1 finger salute almost every day from people that get stuck behind me. so I'm on your side with this one. bp. 2 34

yes I agree. I have a Hyundai sonata hybrid the dealer and sticker maintain the car gets 35 city 40 highway have never seen more that 32 highway 27 city. we don't drive fast we accelerate sensible watch for red lights and brake to save the pads. so now they say we have to relearn how to drive a hybrid. I say bu@#$% the car should get the mileage they say with sensible driving. not be de rated because it gets to cold or to hot. we all don't live on an island of paradise. we live in the real world and the car should have the mileage ratings for the real world not the lab. you can bet I will not give the hybrid cars any good marks. like you a am sorely disappointed in this hy tech technology.

Here are some hybrid driving tips: 1. Accelerate moderately with STEADY accelerator pressure. Do not try to keep tight spacing on the vehicle ahead. (get someone to pull you up to speed with a rope) 2. Keep the number of ICE starts and stops to a minimum and avoid EV mode. Use EV for low speed, coasting and transient power demands. (take the ev battery out of the car after all if you avoid ev mode then that's just extra weight anyway) 3. Look ahead as far as you can see to traffic signals and coast to the next green. Brake early and lightly. Get your brake score to 100 % (make sure you start to stop just after you go past the green light you went under, you don't want to wear out the car for gods sake.) 4. Turn off AC ( compressor ) in moderate temperatures and use ventilation. Don't use heat until ICE warms up from driving. Don't freeze either. (get a car with no a/c or heat after all they use energy and we can't get good fuel economy using these modern conveniences now.) 5. Keep to speed limits. Don't draft closely. Gains of 2-4 mpg. can be seen from drafting a van or SUV at proper highway spacing (can't do much drafting at 3 car lengths doing 70 down the road. I guess that why the nascar drivers tailgate doing 120 on the track) 6. Keep tire pressures up. 40 psi. is a good compromise. (yes inflate those tires and the next time you have to panic stop the hard tires will slip and allow you to leave those black marks on the road so the cops can measure them to make sure you did in fact try to stop.) 7. Don't drive in cold, rainy, windy weather, move to Florida (yes lest all move to Florida after all that is the climate they made these cars for in the first place. the way it sounds these cars should not even be sold in a climate that is not 65 deg year around anyway) 8. Have fun. The Ford hybrid is a high tech toy. Don't have an accident watching the video game. (the only sensible stamen here.)

when people get these cars they are trying to save on gas. first they pay 10k more for them which may not ever get repayed but then they don't figure they have to go back to school to learn how to drive a hybrid. sensible driving should account for savings with these hi tech models, otherwise what's the sense in getting one if you have to learn how to drive one. then you can jut get a cheaper model and drive it like a hybrid and see the savings at both ends. and when they do the mileage tests for the EPA they should not do a lab test but the real world test like the car is going to be in.