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My 2010 FFH with 200k miles


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#1 OFFLINE   jeff_h

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 05:36 PM

I knew it would happen one day this month, and thankfully the owner for the past 55k miles (wife's best friend) snapped a pic at just the right time!

 

I took delivery on 7/1/09 and it had 4 miles on it (and the retail order took 5½ weeks from the day I walked into the dealer to the day of delivery, which was quicker than expected), and now 10 weeks shy of being 6 years old it's got a lot of miles and still looks and runs great!

 

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#2 OFFLINE   lolder

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 06:50 PM

This is what they should all do. Have the brakes been serviced?



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Posted 13 April 2015 - 07:04 PM



This is what they should all do. Have the brakes been serviced?

 

Yes, I changed them at 140k, they didn't need it, but I had the pads on hand and changed them before she took ownership so she would not have to worry about it... probably ever.

 

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Posted 13 April 2015 - 09:29 PM

I guess the picture shows the old and new pads. It looks like the old ones were only 1/3 worn down.


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Posted 16 April 2015 - 10:11 AM

Was the brake fluid changed? I would be more concerned with that than brake pads.


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Posted 16 April 2015 - 12:07 PM

Was the brake fluid changed? I would be more concerned with that than brake pads.

Nope, have never needed to do anything with it.


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Posted 16 April 2015 - 03:41 PM

Nope, have never needed to do anything with it.

I thought that brake fluid absorbed moisture over time which can lead to reduced hydraulic pressure for emergency braking. Isn't it standard procedure for most shops to replace the fluid when changing pads/rotors?


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Posted 16 April 2015 - 03:48 PM

I thought that brake fluid absorbed moisture over time which can lead to reduced hydraulic pressure for emergency braking. Isn't it standard procedure for most shops to replace the fluid when changing pads/rotors?

Jeff's shop (aka "Jeff's garage") chose not to do that.


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 12:12 AM

The image makes me think that there are four break pads per wheel. Is that so? Are these old and new in each area? Only a few are worn. I have been told that the front wear faster. I have almost 100k miles and have not seen much wear yet.


Yes, I changed them at 140k, they didn't need it, but I had the pads on hand and changed them before she took ownership so she would not have to worry about it... probably ever.
 
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Posted 19 November 2015 - 05:55 AM

There are two pads per wheel.  The center two are the old pads and the outer two are the new pads for comparison.


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 10:04 AM

There are two pads per wheel.  The center two are the old pads and the outer two are the new pads for comparison.

 

Exactly - otherwise there would not be a suitable way for the view to assess the approximate percentage that had been worn from when the pads were new.


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 09:21 PM

What kind of gas mileage were you getting at 140k?  Or the new owner at 200k?



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Posted 06 January 2016 - 07:49 AM

What kind of gas mileage were you getting at 140k?  Or the new owner at 200k?

 

Over my 145k my average was 39.6MPG -- I think she is now getting about 38MPG combined.  I will check within the next couple weeks as I think it's about time for the 220k mile oil change so she comes over to the house and I get to change the oil and take a look under the hood to make sure all is well.


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Posted 27 January 2016 - 08:10 PM

 

Over my 145k my average was 39.6MPG -- I think she is now getting about 38MPG combined.  I will check within the next couple weeks as I think it's about time for the 220k mile oil change so she comes over to the house and I get to change the oil and take a look under the hood to make sure all is well.

Jeff, that mileage is SO close to mine, which is at 124,000 miles now.  I always fill up and I have every gas receipt, and an Excel chart of all my data with charts.  My average is 39.7 mpg.   Of course in the summer I can easily get over 40 around town with a few freeway runs as well, but winters are hard on the mpgs.  

 

I am not worried about my brake pads, I check them occasionally and they always look pretty much like new, since most of my braking is done by the generators, not even using the pads.

 

Regarding the high voltage batteries, these NMH batteries have lasted 300K miles on Escape taxis fleet in California, the only ones that were replaced had been damaged in accidents at that average fleet mileage, so I am not at all worried about HV batteries.  

 

Regarding brake fluid, yes it is hydroscopic, and it will absorb moisture, but if you never leave your brake master cylinder cover off, there is just not that much opportunity for water to get into the fluid.  I make sure I only take that cover off for seconds, to check the level if I can't see it from the outside.  In the process of bleeding the brakes, you can have the cover off for some time, but for normal driving, the need to bleed the brakes is rare.  You would need to bleed the brakes if you replaced a caliper or fixed a line leak, and in that case you should put in all new fluid.  


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Posted 28 January 2016 - 09:28 AM

I just changed the oil again last week when it was 150 miles shy of 220k, all still well...


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Posted 12 February 2016 - 03:48 PM

jeff_h and VonoreTN,

 

For the benefit of us with fewer odometer miles;

 

Questions:

 

1) What motor oil brand, viscosity and oil change intervals have you both been adhering to?

 

2) What major issues or repairs?

 

 

My 2010 Fusion Hybrid has "only" 140,000 miles on it. Only repairs to date include replacement of a engine accessory belt and check engine light warning fix. I have been averaging 41-42 mpg during the winter, here in Middle TN. 47-48 during the rest of the year. I have even seen 53 mpg on a few occasions. (Prius like mileage!) 80% highway driving.

 

I bought it as a used government fleet car with 70,000 miles. It had Kendall 5W20 Blend every 5,000 miles up to that point. I used up my stash of Motorcraft FULL Synthetic 5W20 up to 100,000 miles. Another Fusion Hybrid owner with 180,000 miles convinced me to switch to Mobil 1AFE 0W20 every 10,000 miles at the 100,000 mile mark. Based on the oil analysis  that I had done, I could have gone a couple of thousand miles more on it. However, every 10,000 miles is my maximum, and is an easy interval to remember.

 

The only tip I can offer is to change out the eCVT transmission fluid. I am not a believer of lifetime fluids. I found a local transmission shop to do it for around $80, if I supplied the Mercon LV. Great piece of mind, because replacing that transmission would mean big $$$. At this point, I am trying to figure out what to do with the "lifetime" air filter. I heard that a new one is north of $400 installed. Any suggestions?



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Posted 12 February 2016 - 04:16 PM

As far as the eCVT fluid is concerned, there are no combustion products that can get into it and contaminate it and there are no clutches or bands or valves in it to produce wear particles. It would probably last forever. Oil doesn't wear out if it isn't over heated. Don't worry about the ICE air filter, if there even is one. If it got so clogged that it restricted flow I believe it would notify you.



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Posted 12 February 2016 - 06:30 PM

I have done my own oil changes every 5k with Quaker State 5W-20 Full Synthetic.

 

The only things that have ever gone wrong was a left front wheel bearing at 33k (replaced free under warranty), a CEL at 66k (O2 sensor replacement), and a right front wheel bearing at 118k.

 

I normally have the dealer change the engine belt every 50k (they say those belt are good for 100k but it helps me sleep better at night) and I had the other O2 sensor changed at 140k (prevention only, was running fine), 12V battery at 140k (also for prevention) and then had them change both sensors again at 210k (prevention again).  I had dealer change spark plugs at 100k and 210k.

 

And I think that's it.


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Posted 13 February 2016 - 12:36 PM

I normally have the dealer change the engine belt every 50k (they say those belt are good for 100k but it helps me sleep better at night).

Which belt are your referring to? I was under the impression there are not belts.



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Posted 13 February 2016 - 03:35 PM

As far as the eCVT fluid is concerned, there are no combustion products that can get into it and contaminate it and there are no clutches or bands or valves in it to produce wear particles. It would probably last forever. Oil doesn't wear out if it isn't over heated. Don't worry about the ICE air filter, if there even is one. If it got so clogged that it restricted flow I believe it would notify you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

loder,

 

I used to think the same thing, (regarding eCVT fluid lasts forever). I know there is no combustion process, bands or valves.

 

However, consider the following:

 

1) Do you account for the condensation process, in going from summer to winter and back?

 

2) Do you really believe that the fluid will be identical 7 years later, in composition to what it was, coming from the factory?

 

3) I wandered over to the Prius forum. (It has the same eCVT design as what we have). Some of the owners have submitted their eCVT fluid for oil analysis. The results

    have swayed them over to changing out their "lifetime fluid" as well. Google "Prius eCVT maintenance".

 

4) I have not priced out a new eCVT transmission in our cars yet. Someone at the Prius forum got a $6,000 quote. Maybe you have deeper pockets than I, to run that 

    risk (that your transmission will last a lifetime maintenance free). As for me, I'll pay the $80 + Mercon LV fluid cost, to change it out, every 50,000 miles, after the initial, 

    100,000 mile change (I thank you very much).






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