Hybrider Report post Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) That was one of the main reasons I opted for the SE over the S, was because the S did not have the Sirius radio. But I also really wanted the spoiler and the 5-spoke wheels in the SE Appearance Package. Here is the list of differences between the base SE and the S, as listed in the 2015 Fusion Order Guide: SE Standard Equipment: All S Hybrid Content, Plus:● 6 Speakers (Edit: BTW, the standard equipment list for the S in the Order Guide says "6 speakers" as well.)● Body-Color Rocker Moldings● Compass● Mirrors – Upgraded Exterior Mirrors — Heated — Puddle Lamps — Turn Signal Indicator● Outside Temperature Indicator● Rear A/C and Heat Ducts● Rear Center Armrest w/2 cup holders● Rear Floor Mats● Seats — Eco Cloth — 10-Way Power Drivers Seat Including Power Lumbar (fore/aft, up/down, tilt, recline, 2-way power lumbar, memory) (My Note: S model has 6-Way Manual Driver Seat.) — 6-Way Power Passenger Seat (fore/aft, up/down with recline) (My Note: S model has 4-Way Manual Passenger Seat.)● SecuriCode™ Keyless-Entry Keypad● SIRIUS® Satellite Radio with 6-month Prepaid subscription(48 Contiguous States). Service not available in Alaska orHawaii. And pretty much, the only options of note on the S model are the Rear Inflatable Seat Belts and the Remote Start System accessory. Edited May 21, 2015 by Hybrider 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted May 21, 2015 That was one of the main reasons I opted for the SE over the S, was because the S did not have the Sirius radio. But I also really wanted the spoiler and the 5-spoke wheels in the SE Appearance Package. Here is the list of differences between the base SE and the S, as listed in the 2015 Fusion Order Guide: SE Standard Equipment: All S Hybrid Content, Plus:● 6 Speakers (Edit: BTW, the standard equipment list for the S in the Order Guide says "6 speakers" as well.)● Body-Color Rocker Moldings● Compass● Mirrors Upgraded Exterior Mirrors Heated Puddle Lamps Turn Signal Indicator● Outside Temperature Indicator● Rear A/C and Heat Ducts● Rear Center Armrest w/2 cup holders● Rear Floor Mats● Seats Eco Cloth 10-Way Power Drivers Seat Including Power Lumbar (fore/aft, up/down, tilt, recline, 2-way power lumbar, memory) (My Note: S model has 6-Way Manual Driver Seat.) 6-Way Power Passenger Seat (fore/aft, up/down with recline) (My Note: S model has 4-Way Manual Passenger Seat.)● SecuriCode Keyless-Entry Keypad● SIRIUS® Satellite Radio with 6-month Prepaid subscription(48 Contiguous States). Service not available in Alaska orHawaii. And pretty much, the only options of note on the S model are the Rear Inflatable Seat Belts and the Remote Start System accessory.Thanks! Would you be so kind to please also post this in the SE vs HyTi thread linked previously? I'll then change the name to reflect that it also shows S vs SE differences. Thanks!! 1 jeff_h reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridwannabe Report post Posted May 21, 2015 That was one of the main reasons I opted for the SE over the S, was because the S did not have the Sirius radio. But I also really wanted the spoiler and the 5-spoke wheels in the SE Appearance Package. Here is the list of differences between the base SE and the S, as listed in the 2015 Fusion Order Guide: SE Standard Equipment: All S Hybrid Content, Plus:● 6 Speakers (Edit: BTW, the standard equipment list for the S in the Order Guide says "6 speakers" as well.)● Body-Color Rocker Moldings● Compass● Mirrors – Upgraded Exterior Mirrors — Heated — Puddle Lamps — Turn Signal Indicator● Outside Temperature Indicator● Rear A/C and Heat Ducts● Rear Center Armrest w/2 cup holders● Rear Floor Mats● Seats — Eco Cloth — 10-Way Power Drivers Seat Including Power Lumbar (fore/aft, up/down, tilt, recline, 2-way power lumbar, memory) (My Note: S model has 6-Way Manual Driver Seat.) — 6-Way Power Passenger Seat (fore/aft, up/down with recline) (My Note: S model has 4-Way Manual Passenger Seat.)● SecuriCode™ Keyless-Entry Keypad● SIRIUS® Satellite Radio with 6-month Prepaid subscription(48 Contiguous States). Service not available in Alaska orHawaii. And pretty much, the only options of note on the S model are the Rear Inflatable Seat Belts and the Remote Start System accessory.Wow thanks for the detailed list! A couple of things stick out: I would miss the compass, but no biggie. Would definitely miss the outside temp indicator. But no end of the world either. I imagine the resale value on these is just terrible though. They are missing a lot of standard features that most would want. I also wonder about the seats. I know they are eco color but wondering if they are different than the SE seats? Aka cheaper and less comfortable? I've never sat in one. I drive nearly 30k a year, so the seats have to be comfortable. Any know if they are just a different color than SE seats? Since there are so few blue ones around, I may have to suck it up and get an S. The other blue ones are loaded and in the $30k range. Way too many options that I don't want. I'd rather have less than more. Only because I'm cheap haha! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eric.C.Boston Report post Posted May 21, 2015 Hello, I doubted that I could get 600 miles a second time in a row, but just got over at my regular gas stop yesterday with 4 miles to Empty. The fill was 11.972 Gallons for a calculated 50.23 MPG. It might be more difficult for three in a row because I am traveling in mountainous New Hampshire on a trip during the next 600 miles. The lifetime MPG is still creeping up slowly and is currently at 49.1 MPG. Regards, Eric 2 ptjones and Hybrider reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted May 21, 2015 A couple of things stick out: I would miss the compass, but no biggie. Would definitely miss the outside temp indicator. But no end of the world either. I imagine the resale value on these is just terrible though. They are missing a lot of standard features that most would want. I also wonder about the seats. I know they are eco color but wondering if they are different than the SE seats? Aka cheaper and less comfortable? I've never sat in one. I drive nearly 30k a year, so the seats have to be comfortable. Any know if they are just a different color than SE seats? Since there are so few blue ones around, I may have to suck it up and get an S. The other blue ones are loaded and in the $30k range. Way too many options that I don't want. I'd rather have less than more. Only because I'm cheap haha!I have a 2015 FFH S. It does have the compass and it also has outside temperature indicators. The temperature is displayed at two locations: on the interior center stack and also the instrument panel. The seat upholstery in the S is different (color and style). You should compare them to be sure they would be acceptable to you. I personally like them and I liked the color better than the dune or black that was available in the SE. Both my wife and I have found them comfortable on long road trips. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridwannabe Report post Posted May 21, 2015 I have a 2015 FFH S. It does have the compass and it also has outside temperature indicators. The temperature is displayed at two locations: on the interior center stack and also the instrument panel. The seat upholstery in the S is different (color and style). You should compare them to be sure they would be acceptable to you. I personally like them and I liked the color better than the dune or black that was available in the SE. Both my wife and I have found them comfortable on long road trips.Thanks for the info! Anything you miss that the "S" model doesn't have? It's funny you mention the seat color. I like grey better than the black or dune as well. So I think they at least look better. A great combo with the blue. Though I could easily live with black. Dune probably not. So I'm good with color. Do you know if they are the same seats as the SE though? Just wondering if they put something cheaper in there. Good to hear you like them on long trips. That's just what I need! Went by the dealer today that has a blue S Hybrid. It's so new, it hasn't been prepped yet. Plastic everywhere, even on the wheels. The one salesman that was walking by said they just received it. So I doubt they'll be making the same type of deal as if it was on the lot a month or two and need to get rid of it. Still searching around as inventory changes every day, but they really don't make too many blue ones. 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Texasota Report post Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the info! Anything you miss that the "S" model doesn't have? Do you know if they are the same seats as the SE though? Just wondering if they put something cheaper in there. I think there are a couple of factors that can often result in low satisfaction very quickly:Being an early adopter and buying the first model year of a new or redesigned car. The 2013 FFHs resulted in those owners working through lots of problems. I experienced this pain when I purchased a 2012 Ford Focus and I won't make that mistake again. I will wait at least two or three model years for a new/redesigned car to work through the issues before buying. Consumer Reports frequently makes this recommendation. Loading up a car with lots of technology that is relatively new. Bleeding edge technology is great when it works but is annoying at best and infuriating at worst when it does not work. MFT, lane assist, automatic high beams, key pad door locks, BLIS, and much more are frequently the topics of frustration and aggravation within many threads of this forum. I specifically chose the FFH S because it leaves out most of the high tech equipment that has been problematic for many owners. I like manually adjusted seats. Heck, I would even prefer old fashioned hand crank windows if I could get them (never had one break in all my years of driving). I prefer a simple key over a bulging FOB in my pocket. Ya, I know, my age is showing. ;) Having said all that, why the heck did I buy a high tech hybrid? I blame the members on this forum, but I sure do like my FFH S.To answer your questions, I can't think of anything on my S that I miss not having. I have come to really appreciate the back-up camera that is included on it. Only speculation on my part, but I think everything on the manual seats is the same as an SE except for the upholstery. I don’t think Ford would put different/cheaper seat frames/mechanisms in the S as compared to the SE. Edited May 22, 2015 by Texasota 1 hybridbear reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridwannabe Report post Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) To answer your questions, I can't think of anything on my S that I miss not having. I have come to really appreciate the back-up camera that is included on it. Only speculation on my part, but I think everything on the manual seats is the same as an SE except for the upholstery. I don’t think Ford would put different/cheaper seat frames/mechanisms in the S as compared to the SE.Thanks! I agree with your post on both parts. Although I'm not an early adapter normally, I did buy a 1.0 Fiesta. It's been fantastic, but just too small! I really liked the blue on grey seats on the S I saw today. As long as the seats are the same frame/size etc. I'm more than OK with that as well. I don't play with the seats once I'm settled in. Dang it my only hangup is the Sirius/XM issue! Not sure I can get around that one! Still researching on how to add to a factory radio. Not looking good. Even the best aftermarket satellite radio is a POS in my opinion. Ugh. Oh what was the problem with your 2012 Focus? Transmission issues? I was sooo close to purchasing a 2015 Focus SE loaded exactly how I wanted. Except for the transmission. And reading around on the internet, the DCT is just terrible! IF it wasn't so bad, I was ready to suck it up and get a manual. But I wouldn't touch that transmission in a million years. Edited May 22, 2015 by hybridwannabe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GrySql Report post Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Thanks! I agree with your post on both parts.Hey 'hybridwannabe', you received a lot of answers in this Thread but maybe we could all move back to the main topic.If you have anything else please feel free to start a discussion about them, we're all ears. :) Edited May 22, 2015 by GrySql 2 hybridbear and Texasota reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridwannabe Report post Posted May 22, 2015 My apologies for getting off track. Thanks for the responses. Good luck to all trying to get into the 600 mile club! 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra348 Report post Posted June 29, 2015 (edited) New member in the club! Fill up this morning - But rather disappointed to learn FFH has only a 13.5 gallon tank now ... the '12 my brother has is 14.5. Gonna be damn tough to get well over 600 miles on a tank. Phooey. BTW, flipped to zero miles to empty as I rolled to the pump. Lifetime MPG is 45.1 as of this fill. Edited June 29, 2015 by Cobra348 2 GrySql and Hybrider reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lsherlockl Report post Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Didnt really realize it but since out of WI winters Ive been getting the 600 tanks for awhile (though my hr commute usually means i fill up at just below a quarter) Anyhow circumstances left the legs of the trip end at a nice 600 this time around, could actually still make it to work and maybe halfway back with what was left in the tank when I filled up. This car never ceases to amaze. My commute must be perfect because since like April its been high 50's every day which is amazing. I really need to figure out where the lifetime average mpg is EDIT: wrong pic this one XD other was just trip 2 Edited July 20, 2015 by lsherlockl 1 Hybrider reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hybridbear Report post Posted July 17, 2015 I really need to figure out where the lifetime average mpg isOn the 2013s the Lifetime Summary appears alternating with the Trip Summary on the left dash screen immediately after shutting down the vehicle. Only the 2013s have this feature. 1 GrySql reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lsherlockl Report post Posted July 20, 2015 On the 2013s the Lifetime Summary appears alternating with the Trip Summary on the left dash screen immediately after shutting down the vehicle. Only the 2013s have this feature. Oh thanks, witht he 14's had that oh well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
higheroctave32 Report post Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) Back in the club for the first time in a while. Would have made it a couple of times but had to fill up before reaching it due to circumstance. Edited November 4, 2015 by higheroctave32 1 corncobs reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcs30115 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 I finally made it to the club! I mainly used it to commute back and forth to work and a little interstate driving, but I haven't had to fill up for almost a month! I got 619 miles and I still had 39 more miles to go. I've got a 2015 FF Hybrid Ti 3 jeff_h, Hybrider and ptjones reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
md13ffhguy Report post Posted March 31, 2016 Congrats marcs30115! Behold the awesomeness of the FFH. :) 1 marcs30115 reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwhgme Report post Posted May 1, 2016 602 miles today and 52.6 average. I am pleased. 3 jeff_h, Hybrider and ptjones reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptjones Report post Posted May 1, 2016 602 miles today and 52.6 average. I am pleased.Great Job! Looks like you could have made it to 700 miles with that gas mileage. :) 52mpg x 14 gal tank= 728miles! :yahoo: Paul 1 rwhgme reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13FFH Report post Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) After 44K plus miles, I have ffiinnaallyy hit 600 miles. :happy feet: The red low fuel warning (DTE=0?) came on at 11.26 gallons used. Filled up at the pump on slow fueling rate and it clicked of at 11.326. Went two more clicks then rounded up to the nearest nickel (OCD) on the last. Total fuel pumped was 11.723 gallons. Oh, and I recently bumped up tire pressure to 40 psi from 35. Edited May 2, 2016 by 13FFH 1 jeff_h reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptjones Report post Posted May 2, 2016 After 44K plus miles, I have ffiinnaallyy hit 600 miles. :happy feet: The red low fuel warning (DTE=0?) came on at 11.26 gallons used. Filled up at the pump on slow fueling rate and it clicked of at 11.326. Went two more clicks then rounded up to the nearest nickel (OCD) on the last. Total fuel pumped was 11.723 gallons. Oh, and I recently bumped up tire pressure to 40 psi from 35. It is interesting that E0 miles happens when there is still more than 2 gallons left, I also noticed this when driving FFH. You could have gotten 700 miles. WOW! :yahoo: Paul 1 13FFH reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ByteMe Report post Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) I would like to officially state that after a month of ownership I have joined the club! And if I pushed it just a little bit more could probably have hit 700 miles.. I didnt want to push my luck so I am shooting for 700 this tank. This is 150 miles round trip/day to and from work from Culpeper, VA to Rockville, MD. 66 (The worlds largest parking lot). I must say I though this car was awesome.. but after this all I can say is WOW.. My previous car was a 2010 Prius.. And I have dont nothing special except migrate the behaviors that I have learned on the Prius over to the Fusion.. I have NEVER seen anything CLOSE to 600 miles on a single tank in the Prius.. So this was amazing.. If i hit 700 miles I will have hit my goal of a single tank for 5 days to and from work. Thanks to this Forum for some good knowledge and to Ford for a mighty fine car!!! Edited May 3, 2016 by ByteMe 3 13FFH, ptjones and jeff_h reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_h Report post Posted May 3, 2016 This is 150 miles round trip/day to and from work from Culpeper, VA to Rockville, MD. 66 (The worlds largest parking lot). Excellent job! However I don't know if I-66 is the world's largest parking lot, I-95 (in NoVA and in many states, actually) gives it plenty of competition. But getting such great range makes the parking lot traffic not quite as bad... still sucks, but just not as much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptjones Report post Posted May 3, 2016 I would like to officially state that after a month of ownership I have joined the club! And if I pushed it just a little bit more could probably have hit 700 miles.. I didnt want to push my luck so I am shooting for 700 this tank. This is 150 miles round trip/day to and from work from Culpeper, VA to Rockville, MD. 66 (The worlds largest parking lot). I must say I though this car was awesome.. but after this all I can say is WOW.. My previous car was a 2010 Prius.. And I have dont nothing special except migrate the behaviors that I have learned on the Prius over to the Fusion.. I have NEVER seen anything CLOSE to 600 miles on a single tank in the Prius.. So this was amazing.. If i hit 700 miles I will have hit my goal of a single tank for 5 days to and from work. Thanks to this Forum for some good knowledge and to Ford for a mighty fine car!!! IMG_0038.jpg Great Job, you will get to 700 mi. How many gallons did you use? Remember there are 14 gal. in there. LOL :yahoo: Paul Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ByteMe Report post Posted May 5, 2016 Excellent job! However I don't know if I-66 is the world's largest parking lot, I-95 (in NoVA and in many states, actually) gives it plenty of competition. But getting such great range makes the parking lot traffic not quite as bad... still sucks, but just not as much. Thanks Jeff.. I dont drive 95 but I do know you are right that over on that side of VA yeah its the same parking lot so maybe not the worlds largest although for me it is!! Just sayin! Great Job, you will get to 700 mi. How many gallons did you use? Remember there are 14 gal. in there. LOL :yahoo: Paul Thanks Paul.. yeah I think this tank I am on now which is right after this one might just be a 700 mile-er.. Second part of your post leads me to a question.. My 2015 Trip counter doesnt show the gallons used like some of the others I have seen. I did some searching and I think this was only available on the 2014's and older-s. Can anyone tell me if this is true? I would really like to know how many gallons I used.. so any suggestions on how I would do that would be greatly appreciated. Other than that I have to say.. I love this car.. I filled up on Monday.. before heading to work and tomorrow will be Thursday and I still have like 270 miles to go to E. So since I had a 2010 Prius before this one.. I wonder why was I not getting the same mileage? What has Ford done differently? Thanks,Tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites